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My older sister had a severe stroke last year and is now in a nursing home with Medicaid covering most costs. I have power of attorney for her finances and healthcare. The nursing facility is now requesting that her monthly Social Security check ($1,875) be sent directly to them instead of continuing to go into her personal bank account. They're saying this is required for their Medicaid patients, but I'm confused about how to make this happen. I've tried calling our local SSA office but can't get through to anyone. Would they even allow me to change her direct deposit info using my POA? She physically can't go to an office (completely non-mobile) and can't manage a phone conversation due to her condition. Has anyone dealt with redirecting SS payments to a facility? What documentation will I need? I'm really stressed about getting this resolved quickly since the nursing home is pressuring me about it.
I'm planning to apply for my Social Security retirement benefits soon, and I have a tax question that's confusing me. If I start my benefits in December 2024 and receive my first payment in January 2025, which tax year would that payment be counted for? 2024 or 2025? I know that up to 85% of SS benefits can be taxable depending on income, but I can't find a clear answer about WHICH tax year the January payment would apply to. This makes a big difference for my financial planning since my 2024 income is much higher than what I expect in 2025 (I'm retiring in November). I've looked through the IRS and SSA websites but keep finding contradictory information. Anyone know the definitive answer? Thanks!
so does this mean if i applied like RIGHT NOW in october but my first check comes in november, that november check counts for 2024 taxes?? i was planning to wait till january to apply but maybe i should do it now????
Yes, if you apply now and receive your first payment in November 2024, that payment will count toward your 2024 taxes. But remember, applying now vs. January could impact your benefit amount depending on your specific situation, especially if you haven't reached your Full Retirement Age (FRA). I wouldn't make this decision based solely on tax considerations - think about the long-term impact on your monthly benefit amount too.
This is such great information, thank you everyone! I'm in a similar situation and was getting really stressed about the tax implications. One thing I want to add for others who might be reading this - if you're close to retirement and trying to optimize your tax situation, it might be worth talking to a tax professional about income timing strategies. For example, if you know your 2025 income will be much lower (like the original poster), you might be able to time certain deductions or income sources to minimize the overall tax impact. I learned this the hard way when I didn't plan properly for my first year of retirement! Also, does anyone know if there are any special considerations for people who might be getting both Social Security AND a pension? I'm wondering if the combined income calculation gets more complicated in that case.
I recently got approved for my Social Security retirement benefits (yay!) and I'm trying to be proactive about setting up tax withholding using Form W-4V. I'm planning to take it to my local SSA office next week, but I'm confused about line 4 where it asks for a 'claim or identification number.' Is my Social Security number enough for this, or do they need some other special number? Also complicating things: my husband filed for his retirement benefits last month but hasn't been approved yet. Should I wait until he gets approved before bringing in his W-4V form, or can we submit both at the same time? One more question - my husband had his last name legally changed when he was 12 (family situation) and he disclosed this on his application. Nobody at SSA mentioned anything about documentation when he applied, but now I'm worried they might reject his application if he doesn't provide proof of the name change. Has anyone dealt with this? Will SSA request his name change documentation or should he proactively send it in? Thanks for any guidance!
Don't stress too much about the withholding form - it's pretty straightforward. For your husband, I'd suggest waiting until he gets his approval letter with his claim number before submitting his W-4V. That way everything will match up in their system. Has your husband checked his my Social Security account online to see the status of his application? Sometimes you can see if they need additional documents there.
Just wanted to add that if you're concerned about the processing time for withholding, you might want to consider making quarterly estimated tax payments to the IRS in the meantime. That way you won't get hit with a big tax bill or underpayment penalties while waiting for the W-4V to kick in. You can set these up online through the IRS website pretty easily. Also, once your husband's benefits are approved, you'll both want to review your combined tax situation since Social Security benefits can become taxable depending on your total income. Good luck with everything!
I've been trying to navigate early retirement while keeping my small consulting business going, and I'm completely confused about the Social Security earnings limits. I turn 63 next month and planned to claim my SS retirement benefits, but I've heard conflicting information about self-employment limits. My financial advisor told me there's both a $23,400 annual earnings limit AND a 45-hour per month work limit for self-employed people. But I just spoke with an SSA rep today who said something completely different! She told me that as long as I keep my total earnings under the $23,400 annual limit for 2025, I don't need to worry about tracking my hours at all. This is a huge relief if true because my consulting work varies dramatically month to month. Some months I might work 60+ hours, while others I barely work 10 hours. Can anyone confirm which is correct? Do I really not need to track my monthly hours as long as I stay under the annual earnings limit? Or was this SSA rep misinformed? I'm worried about accidentally triggering benefit reductions or penalties.
my uncle had his benefits stopped cuz they said he wasnt really retired from his plumbing business even tho he was under the money limit!! he had to appeal and everything. such a headache
This thread has been incredibly helpful - thank you everyone for sharing your experiences! As someone who's dealt with similar SSA confusion, I want to add one important tip: if you do get conflicting information from different SSA reps (which seems common based on these comments), ask for a written determination or at least get the rep's name and reference number for your call. I learned this the hard way when I had to prove what I was told during a phone call. Now I always follow up important conversations with a written request to SSA asking them to confirm in writing what was discussed. It's saved me from having to re-argue my case multiple times. Also, for anyone considering the Claimyr service mentioned above - I've used it twice and it really does work. Worth the small fee to avoid the endless hold times when you need clarification on complex rules like this.
This is such great advice about getting written documentation! I wish I had known this before my confusing call with SSA. I'm definitely going to follow up with a written request to confirm what the rep told me about not needing to track hours. Having it in writing would give me so much more peace of mind. Thank you for sharing that tip - and good to know about Claimyr working well for you too!
I submitted my Social Security retirement application online yesterday evening. I'm in North Carolina and expected my local office to handle everything. This morning I received an email notification saying 'Our Social Security Office in CLEVELAND, OH received your claim and will be processing it.' Is this normal? I was under the impression that Social Security applications were handled by your local office. I'm concerned this might cause delays or complications with my application. Has anyone else had their claim processed by an out-of-state office? Should I contact my local SSA office about this or just let the process continue?
Check your my Social Security account online regularly! You can see updates there without having to call. Your claim status should show up there within a week or two with an estimated completion date.
I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago! Filed online from Georgia and got the notification that my claim was being processed in Phoenix, AZ. I was initially worried too, but it actually worked out great. My claim was processed faster than my neighbor's who applied around the same time - hers went to our local office which was apparently swamped. The Phoenix office called me once to verify some employment dates, and they were very professional and had all my information ready. Everything went smoothly and my first payment came right on time. Don't stress about it - the system really does work well regardless of which office handles your paperwork!
Keisha Robinson
make sure u get everythin in writing!!! nursing homes mess up billing ALL THE TIME trust me
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Emma Garcia
As someone who just went through this process with my grandmother last month, I wanted to add a few practical tips that helped us: 1. When you call SSA, try calling right when they open (8am local time) - much better chance of getting through 2. Have ALL your documents ready before you go: POA paperwork, your sister's SS card, birth certificate, medical records showing her incapacity, and the nursing home's payment details 3. Ask the nursing home for their "Social Security Representative Payee Information Sheet" - most facilities have a standard form with their banking details specifically for this purpose Also, don't let them pressure you into rushing this! Yes, it needs to be done, but you have rights as her advocate. The facility should work with you on timing, especially since Medicaid is still covering her care costs. My grandmother's facility gave us a reasonable timeline once we explained we were actively working on the Rep Payee application. The whole process took about 3 weeks from application to the first redirected payment, so plan accordingly!
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