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I'm 62 and finally ready to apply for Social Security after reading through this entire thread! Like so many of you, I've been putting this off for months because I was absolutely terrified about having to mail my original documents. My birth certificate is from 1962 and my marriage certificate from 1985 - both are irreplaceable and the thought of them getting lost in the mail was keeping me awake at night. This discussion has been incredibly reassuring! The consistency in everyone's experiences really shows that SSA has reliable procedures in place to protect our precious documents. I'm particularly grateful for all the practical tips: calling right at 8 AM, scheduling for Tuesday-Thursday, bringing protective folders, and taking photos beforehand for peace of mind. The insider perspective from the SSA employee was invaluable - knowing that protecting original documents is their top priority and that they scan hundreds daily without damage issues is so comforting. I'm planning to start my online application this weekend and feel confident that if I need document verification, it's just one quick appointment where everything gets scanned while I wait and returned immediately. Thank you all for sharing your real experiences so openly - you've transformed what felt like an insurmountable barrier into something completely manageable!

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I'm 65 and was in the exact same situation just a few months ago! Reading through this thread brings back all those sleepless nights I had worrying about my original documents. Like many of you, I was absolutely convinced I'd have to mail my birth certificate and other irreplaceable papers - something I was never going to do after hearing horror stories about lost mail. I finally applied online in December and got contacted about document verification in early January. The whole experience was so much better than I feared! I brought my birth certificate (from 1959!) and marriage license to my local SSA office, they scanned everything while I watched, and handed them right back to me within 20 minutes. The staff member was incredibly patient and even showed me the scanned images on her screen to confirm they were clear. One tip I haven't seen mentioned yet: I called ahead the day before my appointment to confirm they had everything they needed from me and to ask about parking. The representative was so helpful and even told me which entrance to use to avoid the longer lines. It really helped reduce my anxiety going into the appointment. For anyone still hesitating - don't let document fears keep you from applying. The online process is genuinely convenient, and the in-person verification is quick, secure, and designed specifically to protect your original documents. You've earned these benefits, and the process really isn't as scary as it seems!

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Thank you for sharing your experience and that great tip about calling ahead! I never would have thought to confirm parking and entrance details, but that's such a smart way to reduce anxiety on the day of the appointment. Your timeline from December application to January document verification is really helpful to know. It's so reassuring to hear from someone who had a 1959 birth certificate successfully scanned - that's even older than mine! The detail about the staff member showing you the scanned images on screen really demonstrates how transparent and careful they are with the process. I'm definitely going to follow your advice about calling the day before my appointment when the time comes. This thread has been such a game-changer for all of us who were paralyzed by document fears!

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My neighbor said the tax thing depends on what state you live in too. Some states don't tax SS at all. I'm in Illinois and they don't touch my SS.

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That's correct about state taxation. As of 2025, these states do NOT tax Social Security benefits: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming While these states DO tax Social Security for some residents (often based on income thresholds): Colorado, Connecticut, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia This is separate from federal taxation, which applies everywhere.

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One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you're thinking about working part-time at your cousin's landscaping business, make sure you understand whether you'll be classified as an employee or independent contractor. This affects how taxes are handled and what forms you'll need to file. If you're an employee, your cousin will withhold taxes and provide a W-2. If you're an independent contractor, you'll need to handle quarterly estimated tax payments yourself and receive a 1099. The self-employment tax rate is about 15.3% on top of regular income tax, so it's important to plan for this if you're going the contractor route. Also, since landscaping is seasonal work in many areas, you might want to estimate your annual earnings to see if you'll cross those Social Security taxation thresholds mentioned earlier. Better to plan ahead than be surprised at tax time!

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This is such an important point that I hadn't considered! I just assumed I'd be an employee, but you're right - landscaping work could easily be contractor work. That self-employment tax rate of 15.3% is a lot higher than I expected. I should definitely clarify this with my cousin before starting. Do you know if there are any rules about when someone has to be classified as an employee vs contractor? I don't want either of us to get in trouble with the IRS over this.

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Hi Keisha! I'm new to this community as well and wanted to jump in with some encouragement - your question is so important and it's clear you're being really thoughtful about this major decision! From everything I've been learning (and all the excellent responses here confirm), you and your husband can absolutely both receive your own Social Security checks if you've both worked enough to qualify. I was initially confused about this too, thinking there might be some kind of limit per household, but Social Security really does work on individual earnings records. One thing that's been helpful for me in understanding all of this is thinking of it like you each have your own separate "account" based on your work history, rather than it being a joint marital benefit. The spousal benefit option is just there as a backup in case 50% of your spouse's amount would be higher than your own earned benefit - but you'd choose one or the other, not get both combined. Since you're turning 62 next month but don't have to claim right away, you have some great flexibility to really crunch the numbers and figure out the optimal timing for both of you. The advice about creating that ssa.gov account to see your actual benefit estimates sounds like a great next step - even if the website is being glitchy, it's worth persisting since seeing your real numbers makes everything so much clearer. Welcome to the community - everyone here seems incredibly knowledgeable and supportive!

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Hi Nia! Thanks for the warm welcome to this community! I love how you explained it as each of us having our own separate "account" based on our work history - that really makes it click for me. It's so much clearer when you think about it that way rather than as some kind of joint marital benefit system. I'm definitely planning to be persistent with that ssa.gov website this weekend to see our actual numbers. Everyone here has emphasized how helpful it is to see the real estimates rather than just trying to work with hypotheticals. I'm feeling really grateful to have found this community - the level of knowledge and willingness to share experiences has been incredible. What started as a pretty overwhelming question has turned into a clear action plan thanks to everyone's generous advice. It's nice to connect with another newcomer who's navigating these same waters!

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Hi Keisha! Welcome to the community - I'm also new here and your question really resonates with me as someone who's just starting to navigate these Social Security decisions. Everyone here has given you fantastic advice, and I can add that YES, you can absolutely both receive your own Social Security checks! I was confused about this initially too, but after doing some research (and reading all these great responses), it's clear that Social Security works on individual earnings records, not as a household limit. What I found really helpful when I was trying to understand all this was thinking about it like you each earned your own benefits through your years of work - they're truly separate entitlements. The spousal benefit your neighbor mentioned is just an alternative option if 50% of your husband's benefit would be higher than your own earned amount, but you'd get the higher of the two, not both added together. Since you have some time before you need to decide (even though you're eligible at 62 next month), I'd definitely recommend getting that ssa.gov account working to see your actual numbers. The benefit estimators there really help make the abstract rules concrete with your real situation. And don't feel rushed - this decision will impact you for decades, so taking time to understand all your options is really smart. This community has been such a great resource for learning about these complex topics. Good luck with your planning!

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I recommend asking SSA for a "what-if" analysis showing all three scenarios (retirement only, survivor only, and with ex-spouse benefits). Specifically, you'll want to know: 1. Your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) based on your own work record 2. The survivor benefit amount (which should be up to 100% of your late husband's benefit at your FRA) 3. The potential divorced spouse benefit (up to 50% of your ex's PIA) The good news is that at FRA, your work income won't cause any benefit reductions. You'll just need to consider potential tax implications if your combined income exceeds certain thresholds.

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Thank you for suggesting the "what-if" analysis - that's an excellent approach! I'll specifically ask for that when I connect with them. It's reassuring to know my work won't reduce my benefits, at least.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Darren. What you're going through sounds incredibly frustrating, but unfortunately it's becoming all too common with SSA these days. One thing that might help - when you do get through to someone (whether through the regular 800 number or services like Claimyr that others mentioned), ask them to create a "flag" or "alert" on your file noting that you have multiple potential benefit types that need comparison. This can help ensure future representatives see the complexity of your case right away. Also, since you mentioned your Medicare premiums were calculated incorrectly, make sure that appeal is completely resolved before they finalize your benefit amounts. Sometimes those premium errors can cascade into other calculation mistakes. Given that your marriage to your ex lasted 22 years, you definitely qualify for divorced spouse benefits. The key is making sure SSA actually compares all three options (your retirement, survivor benefits, and potential ex-spouse benefits) rather than just automatically processing one type. Hang in there - it's a messy system but you'll eventually get the right answer. Just keep documenting everything like others have suggested!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Gael. Losing your husband at such a young age while caring for a disabled daughter must be incredibly overwhelming, especially when you're getting such confusing information from SSA. I went through a similar situation when my wife passed away, leaving me with our autistic son who was 28 at the time. The key thing I learned is that you absolutely ARE entitled to Child-in-Care benefits (not "mother's benefits" - the terminology matters!) as long as you're the primary caregiver for your disabled adult daughter. Here's what helped me cut through the confusion: 1. When you call, immediately ask for a "Technical Expert" and say you need help with "Child-in-Care survivor benefits for a parent caring for a disabled adult child" 2. Reference POMS RS 00615.742 specifically - this shows you know the rules and helps them find the right guidance 3. Your Child-in-Care benefits have ZERO asset limits - that's only for SSI 4. Apply immediately! Don't wait for perfect information. Survivor benefits can be retroactive up to 6 months, but every month you delay costs you money. The family maximum will likely be split between you and your daughter, but if you later work and your portion gets reduced, you can request redistribution to increase her share (most offices won't do this automatically, so you have to ask). Your daughter's SSI will decrease when she starts getting DAC benefits, but she'll keep Medicaid coverage, which is often more valuable than the cash payment anyway. Don't let them tell you that you don't qualify - I was initially denied until I got to someone who actually understood these rules. You've got this!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience, Jayden. It's incredibly helpful to hear from someone who actually went through this exact situation with an adult disabled child. The fact that you were initially denied but eventually got approved gives me hope that persistence really does pay off. I'm taking detailed notes on the specific language you used - "Child-in-Care survivor benefits for a parent caring for a disabled adult child" and the POMS reference RS 00615.742. It sounds like using the precise terminology makes all the difference in getting connected to someone who actually understands these rules. Your point about applying immediately really resonates with me. I've been hesitating because I wanted to understand everything perfectly first, but you're absolutely right that I could be losing months of retroactive payments while trying to get consistent information. I'd rather file now and sort out any issues later than miss out on benefits we're entitled to. It's also reassuring to hear that even though your son's SSI decreased when the DAC benefits started, keeping the Medicaid coverage made it worthwhile overall. Healthcare is definitely our biggest concern, so knowing that protection continues is huge. Thank you for the encouragement about not accepting an initial denial. Knowing that someone else fought through the system successfully gives me the confidence to keep pushing until I find someone who knows these rules properly.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Gael. What you're going through sounds absolutely exhausting on top of an already heartbreaking situation. As someone new to this community, I've been reading through all the responses and am amazed by how much detailed, practical advice everyone has shared. It's both encouraging and deeply frustrating to see how common your experience is with getting contradictory information from SSA representatives. What strikes me most is how many specific details and terminology seem to matter so much in getting the right answers - things like using "Child-in-Care benefits" instead of "mother's benefits," knowing the exact POMS references, and understanding the difference between automatic redistribution and manual recomputation. It's honestly shocking that grieving families have to become experts in bureaucratic language just to access benefits they're entitled to. From everything I've read here, it sounds like you have a strong case for both your Child-in-Care benefits and your daughter's DAC benefits. The fact that you've already set up the special needs trust shows you're thinking strategically about protecting her long-term eligibility. I hope when you call with all the specific terminology and references people have shared, you're able to get through to a Technical Expert who can walk you through everything clearly and get both benefits set up properly. You shouldn't have to fight this hard during such a difficult time, but your persistence in advocating for your daughter is really admirable. Please keep us posted on how it goes - I'm sure your experience will help other families facing similar situations navigate this complex system.

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