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SSI Medicaid loss due to Survivor benefits increase - Pickle Amendment and disabled child benefits questions

I'm completely lost after getting some confusing information from SSA about my daughter's benefits. My 14-year-old daughter has severe disabilities and was receiving SSI with Medicaid. After my husband passed away, we started receiving survivor benefits which increased our income and now they're terminating her SSI/Medicaid (which covers therapies and medical equipment insurance doesn't). The SSA rep told me to apply for something called the "Pickle Amendment" through Health & Human Services to possibly keep Medicaid. Has anyone gone through this process? What's the income limit? Is it a huge paperwork nightmare? The rep also dropped another bombshell - she said when my daughter turns 16, I'll lose MY survivor benefits, but my daughter can keep hers due to disability. I always thought caregivers of disabled children could continue receiving benefits! Then she mentioned something about applying for "disabled adults in care benefit" when my daughter turns 18. I feel like I'm getting different information every time I talk to someone. This is our financial lifeline and I'm panicking about making the wrong moves. Any advice from parents who've navigated this SSI/survivor benefits maze with disabled children would be SO appreciated.

This whole system is DELIBERATELY complicated. They make it impossible to navigate so people give up. My daughter lost benefits for 8 months because of contradictory information from SSA. We finally got a lawyer who specializes in disability benefits and suddenly everything got fixed. Had to pay for the lawyer but it was worth it because we got backdated benefits. The government agencies work against disabled people, not for them.

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THIS!!! ๐Ÿ‘† they hope we give up. my cousin fought for 2 yrs to get proper benefits for her son. system is rigged against us caregivers

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I'm going through something similar with my disabled son and want to add a few things that might help. First, definitely appeal the SSI termination in writing within 60 days if you haven't already - this preserves your right to continued benefits during the appeal process. For the Pickle Amendment, each state has different application processes. In my state (California), I had to apply through the county social services office, not directly through SSA. The key is proving you were receiving both SSI and Medicaid before the COLA increase caused the loss of SSI eligibility. Also, document EVERYTHING. I keep a log of every phone call with dates, times, and the name of who I spoke with. When workers give conflicting information (which happens constantly), I ask them to put it in writing or send me to a supervisor. One more tip: If your daughter is receiving survivor benefits on your late husband's record, those benefits might actually be higher than what she'd get from SSI when she becomes an adult through the Childhood Disability Benefits program. Sometimes the transition actually works in your favor financially, even though losing your own benefits at 16 is scary. Hang in there - this system is brutal but there are people who will help you navigate it properly.

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Social Security demanding repayment after mother's death but funds are frozen in bank account - caught in bureaucratic loop

My mother passed away in February and I'm stuck in a frustrating catch-22 situation between SSA and her bank. I had financial POA while she was in memory care for Alzheimer's, managing her checking account where her SS benefits were deposited. After she died, I notified Social Security promptly, but now I've received three increasingly threatening notices demanding the return of her final benefit payment ($1,875). Here's the ridiculous part - the bank has FROZEN the account since my POA expired at her death, but Social Security has placed some kind of hold on the funds too. When I try to return the money to SSA, the bank says they can't release it because of the SSA freeze. When I explain this to SSA, they just keep sending demand letters threatening to refer me to Treasury offset if I don't pay personally! I've spoken to at least 8 different SSA representatives and 5 bank managers. Everyone acknowledges the problem but nobody can fix it. I'm at my wit's end and worried they're going to come after MY social security or tax refunds next. Has anyone successfully navigated this bureaucratic nightmare? I'm considering contacting my congressional rep but worry that'll take months I don't have.

UPDATE: I finally got some traction! After mentioning the "Administrative Unfreezing" procedure that someone suggested here, the SSA supervisor knew exactly what I was talking about. She's submitted the request to the Payment Center and said it should be processed within 10 business days. She also put a temporary hold on the collection notices while this is being resolved. My state senator's office also called and said they've assigned a caseworker who will follow up next week to make sure everything is progressing. Thank you all for your suggestions and support. This has been such a stressful situation on top of grieving my mother.

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This is great news! The combination of knowing the right terminology (Administrative Unfreezing) and having congressional involvement usually breaks through these bureaucratic logjams. Please keep us updated on the final resolution - it might help others facing similar situations.

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I'm so sorry for your loss and the additional stress this bureaucratic nightmare has caused during an already difficult time. It's encouraging to see you're making progress with the Administrative Unfreezing procedure and congressional involvement! For anyone else who might face this situation in the future, it seems like the key lessons are: 1. Know the specific terminology ("Administrative Unfreezing") when speaking with SSA 2. Request to speak with supervisors who are familiar with these complex cases 3. Don't hesitate to contact your congressional representative's constituent services office early in the process 4. Document everything with names, dates, and reference numbers 5. Work with the bank's legal department rather than just branch managers Your experience shows how important it is for this community to share specific procedural knowledge that can help families navigate these systems during already stressful times. Thank you for taking the time to update us on your progress - it will definitely help others who find themselves in similar situations.

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Do COLA increases apply to survivor benefits amounts while waiting to collect?

I received a benefits statement showing the different monthly amounts I'd get from Social Security survivor benefits at various claiming ages (60, FRA, 70, etc). My husband passed away in 2023, and I'm trying to decide when to start collecting. One thing that's confusing me - will these benefit amounts listed on my statement increase each year with the COLA adjustments while I'm waiting to claim? Or are they fixed at the amounts shown because my husband is already deceased? I'm 57 now and thinking about waiting until at least 60, but possibly full retirement age to maximize the benefit. Just trying to understand if these dollar figures will grow with inflation like regular SS benefits do for living people. Thanks for any insight!

question - does anyone know if its different if ur spouse was already getting disability before they passed? thats my situation

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If your spouse was receiving SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) when they passed away, the survivor benefit calculation is generally the same - it's based on their primary insurance amount, and yes, COLA increases still apply while you wait to claim. The SSDI benefit essentially converts to a retirement benefit when a disabled worker reaches FRA, but for survivor benefit purposes, there's no significant difference in how COLAs are applied.

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I can add some clarity here based on my experience helping clients navigate survivor benefits. Yes, COLA increases absolutely apply to survivor benefit amounts while you're waiting to claim - this is codified in the Social Security Act and happens automatically each January. What's particularly important for your situation at age 57 is understanding the "step-up" in benefits. Since you're considering waiting until 60 or later, each year's COLA will compound, meaning you're not just getting inflation protection, but actually building on previous increases. Here's a practical example: If your survivor benefit at age 60 would be $2,000 today, and we see 3% COLA increases over the next 3 years, that same benefit would be approximately $2,185 when you turn 60. The mathematical advantage of waiting becomes even more compelling when you factor in these guaranteed increases. One strategic consideration many people miss: survivor benefits don't earn delayed retirement credits past your full retirement age (unlike your own retirement benefits which grow 8% per year until age 70). So there's no benefit to waiting past your FRA to claim survivor benefits - that's typically the sweet spot for maximizing this benefit type.

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Will inheritance money from parents' home sale affect my Social Security retirement benefits?

I'm in a situation where my siblings and I recently inherited our parents' house after both passed within the last year. We're planning to sell the property soon and split the proceeds equally among the three of us. My portion will probably be around $137,000 after all expenses. I started collecting my Social Security retirement benefits early at 62, and I'm now 63. I'm worried this inheritance might reduce my monthly benefit amount or cause other problems with Social Security. Does anyone know if this kind of inheritance counts as income for Social Security purposes? Will I need to report it somehow? Really appreciate any advice from folks who've been through something similar!

Just to add a bit more clarity: when I went through something similar, I confirmed that inheritance money doesn't count against the Social Security earnings test. In 2025, if you're under FRA, the earnings limit is around $22,320 (they adjust it annually for inflation). But again, this only applies to earned income from work, not money from inheritance, investments, or other unearned sources. You should be completely fine receiving your full inheritance without any impact on your Social Security retirement benefits.

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Thanks for including those specific numbers. It's really helpful to understand exactly how the earnings limit works!

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I'm sorry for your loss, Chloe. Losing both parents within a year must have been incredibly difficult. The good news is that everyone here is absolutely right - your inheritance won't affect your Social Security retirement benefits at all. I went through something similar when my father passed and left me his property. The key thing to remember is that Social Security only looks at "earned income" (wages, salary, self-employment income) when applying the earnings test for early retirees. Inheritances, along with pensions, investment income, and other "unearned income" don't count toward that limit. You can receive your $137,000 inheritance and continue getting your full Social Security benefits without any reduction. Just make sure your tax preparer properly categorizes it as an inheritance on your tax returns, and you'll be all set. Take care of yourself during this difficult time.

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Social Security retirement application confusion - reporting income from self-employment in 2025

I'm helping my husband file for Social Security retirement this month and we're stuck on the income reporting section. He's self-employed (construction contractor) and will be scaling back significantly next year. His net income for 2024 will be around $48,000, but he plans to work part-time in 2025 and expects to earn only about $23,000. Should we report the 2024 income or the estimated 2025 income on his application? The form isn't clear about which year they want. He'll be 65 in June so I know there's the earnings limit to consider too. Anyone deal with a similar situation when filing?

Just wanted to say thx for asking this question, im in almost the same boat (self employed, turning 65 next yr) and was confused about the same thing!

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As someone who went through this exact situation with my spouse last year, I can confirm what others have said - you definitely report the EXPECTED 2025 income, not 2024. The SSA application specifically asks for estimated earnings for the year you'll be receiving benefits. A few things that helped us: - Write a brief explanation letter to include with your application detailing the business transition and how you calculated the $23K estimate - Keep monthly records once benefits start - even a simple calendar noting work days/hours - Consider the timing advice others mentioned about scheduling work after his 65th birthday in June when the earnings limit increases One thing I wish someone had told us: if his income ends up being significantly different from the estimate (more than a few thousand), contact SSA proactively rather than waiting for them to discover it during their annual review. It makes the adjustment process much smoother. The earnings test can seem scary but remember - any benefits withheld due to excess earnings get added back to your monthly benefit amount once you reach FRA, so it's not truly "lost" money, just delayed.

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