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Should I file for Social Security in December or January if I earned over the earnings limit this year?

I'm really stressing about when to file for my Social Security retirement benefits - December 2025 or January 2026? I'm turning 63 in November and know I'm filing before my FRA (which is 67). My income this year is WAY over the earnings limit (made about $56,000), but I'm retiring at the end of December. Next year I'll only have about $23,000 in income from my part-time consulting gig. If I file in December 2025, will they still count all my earnings from 2025 against me even though I'll be retired when benefits start? Or should I wait until January 2026 to file so they don't look at my 2025 income at all? I'm so confused about how this earnings test works when you're starting benefits at the end of the year! Does anyone know if the timing even matters in my situation?

One more thing worth noting: if you do end up having benefits withheld due to the earnings test, you'll get that money back in the form of a higher monthly benefit once you reach your Full Retirement Age. SSA recalculates your benefit amount at FRA to give you credit for the months when benefits were withheld. However, waiting until January 2026 is still the better option in your case because you'd avoid the immediate withholding from your high 2025 earnings.

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Wait really? I never knew they give the money back later! Thought it was just gone forever

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Yes, that's one of the lesser-known benefits of the Social Security system! When you reach your Full Retirement Age, SSA automatically recalculates your benefit to account for any months where benefits were withheld due to the earnings test. They essentially give you credit for those "lost" months by increasing your monthly payment going forward. It's not a lump sum repayment, but rather a permanent increase to your monthly benefit amount. This adjustment helps offset some of the impact of taking benefits early while still working.

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Thank you all so much for the advice! I'm definitely going to file in December but select January 2026 as my start month. Really appreciate everyone taking time to explain this complicated system to me. I'm actually relieved - I was ready to start benefits in December thinking one extra month would be better, but now I see waiting is smarter because of how the earnings test works. You all saved me from making a costly mistake!

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Social Security Ticket to Work canceled after transitioning from SSI to retirement benefits - will I lose all benefits?

I just received this confusing letter from Social Security saying my Ticket to Work program has been canceled, listing 3 different potential reasons. I'm completely confused because I haven't been working at all due to my disability. I'm 65 years old and was on SSI until I turned 62, then my benefits automatically switched to regular Social Security retirement benefits. I'm really worried - does this cancellation mean I'll stop receiving my monthly payments? Social Security is literally my only income and I can't survive without it. I don't understand why they'd cancel something I wasn't even using in the first place. Has anyone dealt with something similar? Will this affect my regular retirement benefits?

To give you complete peace of mind: Your Social Security retirement benefits are secure and will continue as normal. The Ticket to Work program cancellation only affects support services for returning to work, which wouldn't apply to you as a retiree anyway. For future reference, when you receive any notice from SSA that you don't understand, you can: 1. Log into your MySocialSecurity account to verify your benefit status 2. Call your local SSA office (often less wait time than the national number) 3. Schedule an appointment through the SSA website for complex issues But in this specific case, your benefits are fine and there's no action needed on your part.

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Thank you so much for these helpful suggestions! I feel much better now understanding that this was just an administrative notice and not something that affects my actual benefits. I'll definitely keep these tips in mind for the future.

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I'm glad you found this community to get clarity on this issue! This is actually a very common concern that many people face when transitioning from disability benefits to retirement. The Social Security Administration could definitely do a better job explaining these changes in their letters - it's understandable that you were worried about losing your only source of income. Just to reinforce what others have said: your retirement benefits are completely separate from the Ticket to Work program and will continue without any interruption. The program cancellation is purely administrative since you're no longer on disability benefits. It might be worth keeping all your SSA correspondence in a file so you can reference it later if you have questions. And definitely consider setting up that MySocialSecurity online account if you haven't already - it's really helpful for checking your benefit status and payment history anytime you have concerns.

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What happens if I delay Social Security past age 70 while still working? Any penalties?

I just turned 70 last month and I'm still working full-time at my landscaping business. Business is good, and I honestly don't need the extra income from Social Security right now. A friend mentioned I should have already applied for benefits since I'm 70, but I haven't done anything yet. Will I be penalized for waiting past 70? Do I lose money permanently if I don't apply right away? I'm planning to work for at least another 2-3 years if my health holds up, and wasn't thinking about SS until I fully retire. Now I'm worried I'm making a costly mistake!

Wait so does anyone know if you HAVE to apply for SS at 70 even if still working? or is it just recommended so you dont lose $?

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You don't HAVE to apply - it's not mandatory. But as everyone has mentioned, there's absolutely no financial advantage to waiting past 70. Your benefit amount stops increasing at that point, so delaying just means permanently lost money. You can collect your full Social Security benefits regardless of how much you earn from working after reaching full retirement age.

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Just want to add another perspective here - I'm a retired SSA employee and can confirm everything said about the 70 cutoff is absolutely correct. The delayed retirement credits stop at age 70, period. I've seen so many people come in months or even years later thinking they were being smart by waiting, only to find out they'd left thousands on the table. The 6-month retroactive limit is federal law and there are no exceptions, no matter how compelling your story. Please don't delay any further - apply immediately and start collecting what you've already earned!

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Social Security benefits for children - record keeping requirements and what happens at age 18?

Just found out my spouse's SS retirement benefits were approved (he's at FRA) and our 3 kids (ages 8, 11, and 14) will be getting auxiliary benefits. The SSA rep said we'll be hitting the family maximum. I'm completely confused about the recordkeeping requirements for the children's benefits. Do I need to save every receipt showing how their money is being spent? Is there a specific system or documentation method I should be using? I'm panicking thinking about having to organize and save food receipts, clothing purchases, and utility bills for the next 10+ years until my youngest finishes high school! Also wondering about what happens when each kid turns 18 - does their payment automatically stop? Will the younger kids' payments increase when the oldest ages out since we're at the family max? Thanks for any guidance on this overwhelming situation!

One more tip from my experience - make sure all your children are properly coded in the SSA system! When my youngest grandchild turned 16, her benefits suddenly stopped. After MANY phone calls, I discovered the SSA had incorrectly coded her as a student who would age out at 16 instead of 18. It took nearly 3 months to fix and get her backpay. After each child's benefits are established, request a Benefits Verification Letter for each of them to confirm their benefit type is correctly listed as "Child's Insurance Benefits" with the correct termination age.

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Oh wow, that's a really good point! I'll definitely request verification letters for each child once everything is set up. That sounds like a nightmare situation you went through - glad you got it resolved eventually!

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Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who's been through this process. I was a representative payee for my nephew for 4 years, and honestly, the simplest approach worked best for me. I opened one dedicated savings account for his benefits and kept a basic monthly log showing: benefit amount received, major expenses (over $100), and running balance. The annual Representative Payee Report is really straightforward - it asks for general categories like how much you spent on food/housing vs. saved for the child. They're not looking for forensic accounting! One thing I wish someone had told me earlier: if you do save any of the benefits for your children (which is encouraged), make sure those savings are clearly documented. When they turn 18, any saved benefits belong to them, not you as the payee. I had saved about $2,000 for my nephew over the years and was able to give him that lump sum when he aged out - it really helped with his college expenses. Don't overthink the record keeping - you're already dealing with enough stress managing benefits for three kids!

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Is Social Security taxable when working at Full Retirement Age (FRA)?

Hi everyone! I turned 67 last month and finally reached my Full Retirement Age. I've started collecting my Social Security benefits ($2,450/month) but I'm still working part-time at my accounting firm (making about $32,000/year). I always thought that once you reach FRA, your earnings don't affect your SS benefits, which seems to be true, but now I'm confused about the TAX situation. Does my earned income make my Social Security benefits taxable? And if so, how much of it will be taxed? My sister insists I won't owe any taxes on the SS part, but I've heard conflicting things. Any insights would be really appreciated!

To clarify a key point that comes up frequently in these discussions: the taxation of Social Security benefits and the earnings test are two completely separate concepts: 1. The earnings test only applies BEFORE Full Retirement Age and can reduce your benefits if you earn over certain limits. 2. Taxation of benefits can apply at ANY age and is based on your combined income (AGI + nontaxable interest + half of SS benefits). Reaching FRA eliminates the earnings test, but doesn't impact taxation. Many beneficiaries confuse these two distinct policies. It's also worth noting that these tax thresholds ($25,000/$34,000 for singles) haven't been adjusted for inflation since they were introduced in 1984, so they affect more beneficiaries each year.

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And THAT'S the real scandal! Those income thresholds from 1984 would be over TWICE as high if they were indexed for inflation! Just another example of how the system is rigged against seniors. They never update the thresholds, so more and more of us get our benefits taxed every year as inflation pushes our incomes up!

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As someone who just went through this transition myself, I completely understand your confusion! The distinction between the earnings test and taxation is one of the most misunderstood aspects of Social Security. You're absolutely right that your benefits won't be reduced for working at FRA, but unfortunately the taxation is a separate issue entirely. Based on your numbers ($32K work income + ~$14,700 which is half your annual SS), you'll likely have around 85% of your Social Security benefits subject to federal income tax. One thing that helped me was requesting tax withholding directly from my Social Security payments using Form W-4V. Since you're still working and probably having taxes withheld from your paycheck, you might want to adjust your withholding there instead to account for the additional tax on your SS benefits. Also, since you're in accounting, you might already know this, but don't forget that you can still contribute to retirement accounts while working - even traditional IRAs if you meet the income requirements. This could help reduce your taxable income and potentially lower the amount of SS benefits subject to tax. The whole system definitely feels like a bait-and-switch sometimes, but at least you're still coming out ahead financially by continuing to work!

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Great questions! You're right to be concerned about over-withholding. The key is to estimate your total tax liability for the year and then figure out how much you need withheld from all sources combined. For the IRA question - they actually removed the age limit for traditional IRA contributions back in 2020! As long as you have earned income, you can contribute to a traditional IRA at any age. However, there are income limits for deductibility if you're covered by a workplace retirement plan, so definitely check those thresholds. I'd recommend using the IRS withholding calculator online or working with a tax professional to get the right balance between paycheck withholding and SS withholding. Since tax situations can be complex with multiple income sources, it's often worth the cost of professional advice, especially in your first year of collecting benefits while working.

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Great questions! For the withholding balance, you'll want to calculate your total expected tax liability for the year and then figure out how much to withhold from each source. A good rule of thumb is to have about 90% of your tax liability covered through withholding to avoid penalties. You can use the IRS withholding calculator or work with a tax pro to get the exact numbers. Regarding traditional IRA contributions - the age limit was actually eliminated! The SECURE Act removed the age 70½ restriction, so you can contribute to a traditional IRA at any age as long as you have earned income. However, there are still income limits for deducting those contributions if you're covered by a workplace retirement plan. Since you're working part-time, you might still be eligible depending on your employer's plan. The key is running the numbers for your specific situation. With your accounting background, you might enjoy diving into the tax planning aspects once you get familiar with the SS rules!

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