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I'm dealing with this right now too lol. The whole Login.gov thing is a mess. Does anyone know if we need the EXACT same email as before? I have like 3 email addresses and can't remember which one I used originally 🤦♀️
UPDATE: I tried everyone's suggestions and finally got back into my account! What worked was going directly to Login.gov (not through the SSA site) and using the account recovery option with my email. They sent me a recovery link, and I was able to set up a new authentication method for my account. Then I could log into my Social Security account with no problems. Thank you all for your help - I'm so relieved I didn't have to create a completely new account!
That's great news! Glad you got it sorted out. For future reference, I recommend setting up multiple authentication methods with Login.gov (both email and phone) so you have a backup if one method isn't working.
To answer your question about the application process - I didn't have to go into an office. After I got connected through Claimyr, I did everything by phone, then submitted the required documents by mail (you can also submit online through their website if you have a my Social Security account). The whole process took about 45 minutes on the phone, then a few weeks for processing. Just make sure you have your husband's Social Security number, your marriage certificate info, his death certificate, and recent tax returns or pay stubs to verify your current earnings. They'll tell you exactly what they need during the call.
That's a good point. If your combined income (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of Social Security benefits) exceeds $25,000 for single filers or $32,000 for joint filers, a portion of your Social Security becomes taxable. Planning for this tax liability is an important part of retirement preparation.
After reading all these comments, I want to share my experience. I applied exactly 3 months before my FRA and specifically told them I wanted benefits to start at my FRA. Everything went perfectly - no reduced benefits, no delays. The SSA representative confirmed multiple times that my benefits would start at my FRA, not before. I'd recommend applying in December for your March FRA, and make sure you clearly indicate when you want benefits to begin.
My dad had almost this EXACT situation! He worked till 83 (passed last year) but was getting same SS payment from when he started at 65. We finally got someone at SSA to help and turns out he was owed over $9000 in back increases! Make sure your dad pushes for back pay if they find an error!
It's worth noting that any benefit increase from post-retirement earnings will likely be modest. This is because: 1. Only earnings that replace lower years in the top 35 will impact the calculation 2. The benefit formula gives less weight to higher earnings 3. Post-FRA recalculations don't include delayed retirement credits For example, if your father's recent $130K earnings replace a year where he earned $50K (after indexing), this might only increase his monthly benefit by $20-40. The exact amount depends on his complete earnings history. That said, even small increases add up over time, and if he's been missing these adjustments for years, the back pay could be substantial. Definitely worth pursuing.
my brother is self employed too and he said u should ask ur CPA about SEP IRA or solo 401k...he says u can put away more $ for retirement that way n reduce ur taxes at the same time
When I was self-employed, I found it helpful to create a spreadsheet to track my Social Security contributions each year. I used it to project my future benefits. One thing to keep in mind is that benefits are calculated based on your highest 35 years of earnings, adjusted for inflation. If you have fewer than 35 years of work, they'll use zeros for the missing years, which can significantly lower your benefit amount.
My sister and I both retired around the same time (she was 65, I was 67) and there's about a 15% difference in our monthly payments even though we had very similar careers and earnings. Those two years make a big difference! Just something to think about...
Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! I think I'll apply in November 2024 so benefits can start in March 2025. I'm going to talk to my financial advisor one more time about whether I should wait until closer to my FRA given the reduction at 65. Really appreciate all the insights!
Good plan. One last thing to consider: if you have significant savings or investments, sometimes it makes mathematical sense to take SS early and preserve your nest egg. Other times, waiting and drawing down savings first yields better lifetime results. Your financial advisor should be able to run those calculations based on your specific situation.
Thank you all for the helpful advice! Based on what everyone has shared, I think I need to reconsider my strategy. Since I'll still be working until September 2025 and earning well above the limit, it probably makes sense to wait until after I retire to apply for survivor benefits. I'll still be under my regular FRA but at least I won't have the earnings test reducing my benefits. Then I can consider switching to my own retirement benefit at 70 if the delayed credits make it higher than my survivor benefit. Is there anything else I should consider in this situation?
That sounds like a solid plan given your circumstances. One more consideration: the month you stop working in September 2025 might still count as a high-earnings month depending on when in the month you finish. Some people find it cleanest to start benefits the month after they completely stop working. Also, when you do apply, you'll need to complete an earnings estimate form for 2025 so SSA can calculate any necessary withholding. Be as accurate as possible, as significant differences between your estimate and actual earnings can result in overpayments or underpayments that need to be reconciled later.
One additional point that's important: if your potential new spouse has a significantly higher benefit than you, and you'd outlive them, remarriage might actually be financially advantageous for Social Security purposes. If they pass away, as their widow, you'd be eligible for 100% of their benefit amount if it exceeds your own.Many people don't realize that survivor benefits are much more generous (100% of the deceased's benefit) than spousal benefits (50% of the living spouse's benefit). This is something to consider in your long-term planning.
I've been dealing with both WEP and GPO for YEARS and can tell you that the key factor is WHO earned what. In your situation: 1. YOU earned SS benefits through YOUR work = You get your full SS retirement 2. YOUR HUSBAND earned a federal pension that pays you survivor benefits = Doesn't trigger GPO on your own SS GPO would only apply if YOU worked a government job not covered by SS AND tried to claim SS spousal/widow benefits based on your husband's SS record. WEP would only apply if YOU worked both SS-covered AND non-SS-covered jobs. Since neither applies to you, there's no reduction and no indicator needed on your account. You're receiving exactly what you're entitled to!
THIS IS WHY THE SYSTEM IS SO UNFAIR!!! My friend worked for the county for 30 years and ALSO paid into SS from a part-time job, but when she retired her SS was slashed to almost NOTHING because of WEP!!! Meanwhile other people get to double-dip with no penalties!!! The whole system needs to be fixed!!!!!
That's a different situation entirely. Your friend's case involves WEP because she personally worked in both covered and non-covered employment. The original poster is not in that situation at all. She worked only in SS-covered employment and is receiving a survivor pension from her husband. These are completely different scenarios under the law.
i think your fine but maybe they just havent caught up with you yet? my uncle got a letter 18 months after he started getting benefits saying they made a mistake and he had to pay back $$$. i would just save some money just in case they come after you later. SSA is so behind on everything
Luca Marino
Update: I called the SSA today and after a 45-minute wait, I spoke with someone who was actually very helpful! She confirmed that I should definitely correct the $15K error and said it could affect my benefit by about $65-75 per month. She also explained that the smaller discrepancies under $1000 likely wouldn't change my benefit calculation enough to worry about. She's sending me Form SSA-7008 and said I should include copies of my W-2 and tax return for 2019. She also said there's no time limit for corrections when you have proper documentation. Thanks everyone for your help!
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Ethan Brown
•That's great! $65-75 per month is HUGE over the long run. That's like $15,000-18,000 over 20 years of retirement! Just make sure to follow up if you don't see the correction in your record after a couple months. I had to call THREE times before mine actually got processed correctly.
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CosmicCrusader
its crazy how they can just mess up ur record like that and not tell u. makes u wonder what else is wrong that we dont know about
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Aisha Rahman
•That's why it's important to check your Social Security Statement annually. Employers report your earnings to SSA, and sometimes errors happen in reporting or processing. It's ultimately our responsibility to verify the information is correct. Good reminder for everyone to create a mySocialSecurity account if you haven't already.
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