Social Security benefit recalculation after 70 - higher earnings after starting SS benefits?
My dad is 78 and has been working full-time at his consulting business since retiring from his government job. He started taking Social Security at 66 (his FRA back then), but has actually earned significantly more in the last 12 years than he did before. His income is way higher now - he's making around $130K annually compared to the $85K he made pre-retirement. He mentioned that he's still paying FICA taxes every year, but his SS payment has stayed exactly the same since he started collecting. I thought SS was supposed to recalculate your benefits if you keep working and have higher earning years? Does anyone know if he needs to contact SSA and request a recalculation, or does this happen automatically once you have new high-earning years that would replace lower ones in your top 35? He's not computer savvy and I'm trying to help him figure out if he's leaving money on the table. Also, does it matter that he's past 70? Thanks for any insights!
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Diego Mendoza
Ur dad should definitely be getting more SS$$ with those earnings! My aunt had same thing happen, she kept working as nurse after she started getting SS at 65. They NEVER automatically increased her benefit even tho she was making good money. She had to call them and DEMAND a recalculation after like 5 yrs. Got a decent bump and backpay too!!! Tell him to call the 800 number ASAP!!!
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Chloe Harris
•Thanks for sharing about your aunt! That's exactly what I was worried about - that it's not automatic. Did she have a hard time getting through on the 800 number? My dad tried calling once about something else and gave up after being on hold for over an hour.
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Anastasia Popova
Yes, the SSA will automatically recalculate benefits annually, but there are some important details to understand: 1. The recalculation typically happens in the year following the year you worked (usually October) 2. For the recalculation to increase benefits, the new earnings must be high enough to replace one of the 35 highest years used in the original calculation 3. Once you're past FRA, there's no earnings limit penalty, but the benefit increase from additional work might be relatively small depending on his earnings history 4. The automatic recalculation is called an Automatic Earnings Reappraisal Operation (AERO) If your father believes he hasn't received proper recalculations, he should request a benefits review by contacting the SSA. Bring his recent tax returns showing his higher earnings.
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Sean Flanagan
•WRONG! My husband never got any "automatic" increase and he worked 5 years after starting SS. We had to call and MAKE them recalculate. Dont trust the government to do ANYTHING automatically!
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Zara Shah
hmm i think it depends. what was your dads work history like before 65? if he already had 35 years of good earnings, then the new earnings might not change much. the SS calc uses your highest 35 years indexed for inflation. so a decent year now might not actually replace anything in his top 35.
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Chloe Harris
•That's a good point I hadn't considered. He did have some lower earning years in his 20s when he was in grad school, and a few years where he only worked part-time while my mom was sick. So these recent high-earning years should definitely replace some of those lower years in his calculation.
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NebulaNomad
I worked until 82 (just retired last year) and my SS went up several times since I started collecting at 65. I never had to do anything, it just happened. Got a letter in the mail each time. But my neighbor had to call and request it. So maybe it depends on your local SS office?
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Sean Flanagan
•Nothing about SSA makes any sense. My brother and I both work past retirement and he got automatic increases but I didn't. Same exact situation! Had to threaten to talk to my congressman to get them to fix it!!!
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Luca Ferrari
The system should be automatically recalculating, but I've seen many cases where this doesn't happen correctly. The AERO system (Automatic Earnings Reappraisal Operation) should run annually, but it can miss legitimate increases. Your father should definitely contact SSA and request a manual recalculation given his significantly higher earnings. Make sure he specifies that he wants a "benefits recalculation based on post-entitlement earnings" - using those exact words helps ensure the representative understands what he's requesting. If he's been earning substantially more for 12+ years, and some of those earnings would replace lower-earning years in his original calculation, he could be due a meaningful increase and possibly retroactive payments.
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Chloe Harris
•Thank you for the specific wording to use! I'll write that down for him. Do you know if there's a limit to how far back they'll go for retroactive adjustments? It sounds like he might have been missing out for several years now.
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Nia Wilson
I've been trying to reach SSA about a similar situation for WEEKS! Every time I call that 800 number, I wait 45+ minutes and then get disconnected. Tried going to the local office but they're appointment only and next available is in 2 MONTHS. The whole system is designed to prevent you from getting what you're owed! I just want to know if my higher earnings years are being counted!
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Zara Shah
•Try using Claimyr.com to get through to SSA. I was in the same boat, waiting forever and getting disconnected. Used this service and got connected to a rep in 20 minutes. They call SSA for you and then call you when they get an agent on the line. Saved me hours of frustration. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU
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Luca Ferrari
To address your follow-up question about retroactive adjustments: SSA can go back and adjust benefits for all years where recalculations should have occurred. There's no statutory time limit for these benefit corrections when they're due to the SSA's failure to properly calculate benefits. However, as a practical matter, they typically look back at the most recent 3-4 years without much pushback. Going back further often requires additional advocacy and documentation. If your father has been earning significantly more for many years, he should request a complete earnings record review since he began receiving benefits. Be prepared with tax returns or W-2s for those years to verify his earnings history.
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Chloe Harris
•This is extremely helpful, thank you! I'll help him gather his tax returns for the past several years. He's pretty organized with that stuff fortunately. I'm surprised that something this important isn't more straightforward - feels like SSA should be proactively making these adjustments.
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NebulaNomad
My dad had almost this EXACT situation! He worked till 83 (passed last year) but was getting same SS payment from when he started at 65. We finally got someone at SSA to help and turns out he was owed over $9000 in back increases! Make sure your dad pushes for back pay if they find an error!
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Diego Mendoza
•Wow! $9000 is serious $$. Sorry about your dad passing but glad you got him his money! This is why I'm always telling ppl to DOUBLE CHECK everything SSA does. They make "mistakes" that always seem to benefit them not us!
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Anastasia Popova
It's worth noting that any benefit increase from post-retirement earnings will likely be modest. This is because: 1. Only earnings that replace lower years in the top 35 will impact the calculation 2. The benefit formula gives less weight to higher earnings 3. Post-FRA recalculations don't include delayed retirement credits For example, if your father's recent $130K earnings replace a year where he earned $50K (after indexing), this might only increase his monthly benefit by $20-40. The exact amount depends on his complete earnings history. That said, even small increases add up over time, and if he's been missing these adjustments for years, the back pay could be substantial. Definitely worth pursuing.
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Chloe Harris
•That makes sense - I'll make sure to set realistic expectations with him. Even $20-40 per month would be meaningful over time, especially with potential back payments. And it's simply what he's earned by continuing to contribute to the system for all these years.
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