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This is exactly what I needed to see! I'm 64 and turning 65 in a few months, planning to enroll in Medicare but delay SS until 70. I had no idea about this premium overlap issue or the 3-month advance payment requirement for direct Medicare billing. Reading through all these experiences, it sounds like keeping detailed records is absolutely critical - dates, amounts, confirmation numbers, everything. The 5-month refund timeline is good to know so I won't panic when it inevitably happens to me. It's also reassuring that the system automatically catches these overlaps, even if SSA processes everything at glacial speed. Thanks for sharing this - real experiences like yours are so much more valuable than trying to decode the official government documentation!

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You're absolutely right about keeping detailed records! I just went through Medicare enrollment myself and wish I had seen this thread earlier. One thing I'd add - when you're paying those Medicare premiums directly, make sure to save not just the payment confirmations but also screenshots of your Medicare.gov account showing your payment history. I learned the hard way that sometimes their online records don't perfectly match what you actually paid, especially if there are any premium adjustments during the year. Having multiple forms of documentation saved me when I had to verify a discrepancy. The advance payment thing is definitely a shock to the budget at first, but knowing it's temporary helps!

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your experience! I'm currently 66 and just started receiving my Social Security benefits last month after delaying past my FRA. I've been paying Medicare premiums directly since I enrolled at 65, so I'm probably in line for a similar refund situation. Reading through all these comments, I'm realizing I should have been keeping better track of my premium payments. I can see from my bank statements that I've been paying, but I don't have all the confirmation details organized. One question - when you got the refund, was there any way to see a breakdown of exactly which months they were refunding you for? I'm trying to figure out how many months of overlap I might have so I can estimate what to expect. Also, did you have to report this refund as income for tax purposes, or is it just considered a return of your own overpayment? This thread has been a goldmine of practical information that you just can't find anywhere in the official documentation!

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Great questions! When I logged into my SSA account online after getting the refund, there was actually a detailed breakdown showing exactly which months they refunded me for. It showed something like "Medicare Premium Refund - February 2025, March 2025" with the specific premium amount for each month. Super helpful for understanding exactly what they calculated. As for taxes, this is considered a refund of your own overpayment, not income, so you don't need to report it. It's like getting a refund from any other overpayment - you're just getting back money that was already yours. For your records, you might be able to reconstruct some of the details by checking your Medicare.gov account - they usually show payment history going back quite a while. Even if you don't have perfect records, the SSA system seems pretty good at calculating the overlap correctly on their end.

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Welcome to the community! As a newcomer here, I wanted to share my experience since I went through this exact same worry just last year. I'm 71 and was absolutely terrified about potentially losing Social Security benefits when I started helping out at my nephew's landscaping business during the busy spring season. I must have read every SSA publication twice before finally understanding that once you're past Full Retirement Age, there truly is NO earnings limit whatsoever! I ended up working about 30 hours a week for three months and earned close to $6,000 - my Social Security benefits weren't touched at all. The only surprise was at tax time when I owed a bit more than usual because of the additional income, but like others have mentioned, that's actually a positive problem to have. What really helped me was keeping detailed records of my earnings and setting aside about 20% for taxes throughout the season. It's been so reassuring to read everyone's similar experiences here - this community is such a valuable resource for navigating these concerns that seem to affect so many of us!

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Welcome to the community! Your landscaping experience is such a great real-world example - earning $6,000 over three months with zero impact on Social Security benefits really drives home the point that there truly is no earnings limit after FRA. I love that you kept detailed records and set aside money for taxes - that's exactly the kind of practical advice that helps newcomers like me feel more prepared. It's amazing how many of us seem to go through this same cycle of worry and then relief once we understand the rules! Your story about working 30 hours a week during busy season shows there's real flexibility to take on seasonal or project-based work without any Social Security concerns. Thank you for sharing such a concrete example - it really helps to hear about actual dollar amounts and time commitments from someone who's successfully navigated this!

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Welcome to the community! As a newcomer here, I just wanted to say how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been. I'm 68 and have been hesitant to take on any additional work because I was so confused about these earnings limits. Reading through everyone's real experiences has been eye-opening - it's amazing how many of us had the same worries! The clear explanation that there's absolutely NO earnings limit after Full Retirement Age has given me so much confidence. I especially appreciate all the practical tips about tax implications and record-keeping that people have shared. It's wonderful to see such a supportive community where we can learn from each other's actual experiences rather than just trying to decipher confusing government websites. Thank you all for creating such a welcoming space for these important questions!

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I'm new to this community but wanted to chime in since I've been researching this exact topic after my own recent job change. One aspect I haven't seen fully addressed is how the survivor benefits interact with any state-specific programs or benefits your family might be eligible for. Also, when you're calculating that insurance coverage gap, don't forget to factor in that Social Security survivor benefits stop when your youngest turns 18 (or 19 if still in high school), but your mortgage and other financial obligations probably won't. That gap period between when survivor benefits end and when you might retire could be significant - potentially 10+ years depending on your age. I've been using some online calculators that factor in inflation, education costs, and other variables to estimate total coverage needs. The numbers definitely support what others are saying about needing significantly more than $250k in coverage. Have you considered splitting the coverage between multiple term policies with different lengths? For example, you might do a large 20-year term to cover the period when kids are home, and a smaller 30-year term to bridge into your own retirement planning. The my Social Security account suggestion everyone keeps mentioning really is the best starting point - those benefit estimates will give you the concrete numbers you need to make informed decisions about coverage amounts.

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Welcome to the community! Your point about the gap between when survivor benefits end and retirement is really important - I hadn't thought through that timeline carefully. With my youngest being under 16, there could indeed be a significant period where we'd have no Social Security support but still have major expenses. The idea of splitting coverage between different term lengths is clever too - maybe a larger 20-year policy for the peak family expense years and a smaller longer-term policy to bridge that gap you mentioned. I'm definitely going to explore that option when we get quotes. Thanks for bringing up the state programs angle as well - I should research what might be available in our state as additional support. It sounds like creating that Social Security account really needs to be my first step to get the baseline numbers everyone keeps referencing.

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I'm so sorry you're having to navigate this difficult planning scenario, especially with the added stress of your wife's recent job loss. As someone who has worked with families in similar situations, I wanted to add a perspective that might help with your decision-making. One thing I've noticed is that many people focus heavily on replacing income through insurance, but don't always consider the changing expense structure your family would face. If something happened to your wife, you'd lose her $85k income, but you'd also have reduced expenses in some areas (her commuting costs, work clothes, etc.) while potentially increasing in others (childcare if you work full-time, household help, etc.). The Social Security survivor benefits provide a good foundation - based on her income level, you're probably looking at somewhere around $2,800-3,200 monthly for each child, but subject to that family maximum everyone has mentioned. With three kids plus your potential caregiver benefits, you'd definitely hit the cap. For life insurance, I'd strongly recommend looking at 20-year term policies in the $800k-1.2M range. This covers the period when your kids will be most dependent, and by the time it expires, your youngest will be approaching independence and your own retirement savings should be more substantial. Don't forget to also review and update beneficiaries on all accounts (401k, IRA, bank accounts) while you're doing this planning. These often supersede wills and are frequently overlooked. You're being very responsible by thinking through all of this proactively.

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I'm sorry for your loss, Keisha. This is such a stressful situation to navigate while you're grieving. I went through something similar when my father passed away two years ago, and the confusion around these payments is completely understandable. From what I learned during my experience (and confirmed with a tax professional), since the Social Security Administration reissued that payment specifically to you as the survivor with both names on the check and "deceased" noted, it's considered YOUR income for tax purposes. The key indicator here is that you received the SSA-1099 form - whoever gets that form is responsible for reporting it on their tax return. I'd recommend double-checking the name that appears first on your SSA-1099 form. If your name is the primary recipient listed, then you definitely report it on your personal return. The IRS treats this as survivor income, not estate income or income belonging to the deceased. One thing that helped me was keeping a copy of the original check along with the SSA-1099 for my records, just in case there were ever any questions later. The documentation clearly shows this was a legitimate survivor payment, not an overpayment that should have been returned. Take care of yourself during this difficult time, and don't hesitate to reach out to a tax professional if you need additional peace of mind before filing.

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Thank you so much, Summer. Your advice about checking which name appears first on the SSA-1099 is really helpful - I'll look at that when I get home. It's been so overwhelming trying to figure out all these tax implications while dealing with everything else that comes with losing a parent. Reading everyone's responses here has been incredibly reassuring. I think I have enough information now to confidently report this on my personal return, but I'm definitely going to take the advice several people have given about having a tax professional review everything before I file. Better safe than sorry with the IRS! Thanks again for sharing your experience and for the kind words.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Keisha. Losing a parent is incredibly difficult, and having to navigate these complex tax issues on top of grief makes it even harder. I wanted to add something that might be helpful - if you're dealing with multiple tax returns (your personal return, your mom's final return, and the estate return), you might want to consider using the same tax professional or software for all three. This can help ensure consistency and catch any potential issues where the returns might interact with each other. Also, since you mentioned this was a January 2025 payment for someone who passed in December 2023, there might have been a significant delay in processing. If you haven't already, you might want to confirm with Social Security whether there are any other payments or adjustments coming. Sometimes there can be retroactive calculations or corrections that affect multiple months. The good news is that based on everyone's advice here, it sounds like you have a clear path forward for reporting this payment. Just remember to keep all your documentation organized - the check, the SSA-1099, any letters from SSA, etc. These will be invaluable if you ever need to explain the situation to the IRS or if questions come up during processing. Hang in there, and don't hesitate to get professional help if you need it. Taking care of yourself is the most important thing right now.

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Thank you everyone for the helpful advice! I'm going to apply for Medicare Parts A & B immediately, then get my Part D within the 63-day window, and apply for Social Security in July for my November FRA. I really appreciate all the timeline clarification and document requirements - this has been so much clearer than anything I found on the SSA website!

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You're very welcome! One final tip: print out confirmation pages and keep records of everything you submit to SSA. Also write down the names of any representatives you speak with and the date/time. This documentation can be very helpful if there are any issues with your applications. Best of luck with your retirement!

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Great question! I'm actually going through a similar situation - turning 66 in December and trying to navigate all these deadlines. One thing I learned that might help: if you're worried about the SSA phone system being overwhelmed, try calling your local Social Security office directly instead of the national number. I found the wait times were much shorter, and the staff there seemed more knowledgeable about local processing times. Also, don't forget to ask about any state-specific programs that might supplement your Medicare coverage - some states have additional assistance programs that can help with premiums or copays. The application process definitely feels overwhelming at first, but breaking it down into these separate steps like everyone mentioned really helps!

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