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I'm new to this community and wanted to thank everyone for this incredibly detailed and helpful discussion! As someone who will be facing a similar decision in the coming years, this thread has been more educational than anything I've found on official government websites. The key takeaway I'm getting from all the experienced members here is crystal clear: the earnings test continues until the MONTH you reach your Full Retirement Age, not just when you turn 66. For the original poster with an FRA of March 2026, this means the higher earnings limit (around $62,160 for 2025) will apply from April 2025 all the way through February 2026. What I really appreciate about this community is all the practical advice shared - from setting up My Social Security accounts online to verify exact FRA dates, to calling local SSA field offices for shorter wait times, to keeping detailed monthly earnings records. These are the kinds of real-world insights that make all the difference but are impossible to find in official publications. One thing I'm curious about - has anyone dealt with the situation where you might have irregular income (like consulting work or seasonal employment) while navigating these earnings limits? I'm wondering if there are any strategies for managing variable income to stay under the annual threshold while still maximizing earnings during the restriction period. Thanks again to everyone who shared their experiences and expertise. This community is such a valuable resource for navigating these complex Social Security rules!
Welcome to the community! Your question about managing irregular income while dealing with earnings limits is really important and something I've been wondering about too. From what I've learned in this thread, the earnings test is based on annual totals, so with variable income like consulting or seasonal work, you'd want to keep a running total throughout the year to make sure you don't accidentally exceed that ~$62,160 limit. I imagine it could be tricky to predict and plan for, especially if you get offered a large consulting project late in the year. Some strategies might include spreading work across tax years if possible, or being more conservative with your earnings targets if your income is unpredictable. It would be great to hear from someone who has actually managed this type of situation! This thread has been such an amazing resource for understanding all the nuances of these Social Security rules that the official websites just don't explain clearly.
I'm new to this community and wanted to share my perspective as someone who recently navigated a very similar situation. The thread above has been incredibly helpful and accurate based on my own experience. I turned 66 in September 2024 but my FRA wasn't until June 2025 (66 and 9 months). Like many others here, I initially thought the earnings limits would end when I turned 66, but learned the hard way that they continue until the MONTH you reach your actual Full Retirement Age. For your specific situation with an FRA of March 2026, you'll be subject to the higher earnings limit (approximately $62,160 for 2025) from when you claim benefits in April 2025 all the way through February 2026. Only starting in March 2026 will you have completely unrestricted earnings. Your $42,000 from January-April 2025 is well below the threshold, so you're definitely in good shape there. Just make sure to track your total earnings carefully through February 2026. One thing I learned that might help: I created a simple monthly tracking system using a basic spreadsheet to monitor my progress against the annual limit. This gave me confidence throughout the year that I was staying on track. Also, the SSA sends annual statements showing your reported earnings, which can help verify everything matches up when they do their review. The confusion about these rules is so understandable - the shift from FRA being 65-66 years ago to 67+ now creates this gap that trips up a lot of people. But once you understand that it's your actual FRA month that matters (not turning 66), the planning becomes much more manageable. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion - this community is such a valuable resource for getting real-world insights on these complex Social Security rules!
Welcome to the community! Your experience with the 66+9 months FRA situation is really valuable to share. It's so helpful to hear from someone who recently went through almost the exact same timeline as the original poster will face. The spreadsheet tracking system you mentioned sounds like such a practical solution - having that monthly visibility into where you stand against the annual limit would definitely provide peace of mind throughout the restriction period. I'm new here too and this entire thread has been an incredible education on how these Social Security earnings rules actually work in practice. The point about SSA sending annual statements to verify reported earnings is something I hadn't thought about but makes total sense for staying on top of everything. Thanks for confirming that the confusion about when limits end is totally understandable - it really does seem like the shift from the old 65-66 FRA to the current 67+ system creates this gap that catches a lot of people off guard. This community has been amazing for getting the real-world insights that you just can't find in official resources!
I'm new to this community but wanted to share something that might be helpful for your planning. One thing I learned when helping my disabled nephew is that you should also consider the impact of cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs) on survivor benefits. These annual adjustments apply to survivor benefits the same way they do to regular SSDI, so if you delay your own retirement benefits to age 70 to maximize what your daughter could receive, those higher survivor benefits would also receive COLA increases over her lifetime. Also, I'd suggest documenting your daughter's current care team and medical providers as part of your planning process. When survivor benefits eventually kick in, having a clear record of her ongoing medical needs and the professionals involved in her care can be valuable for any future benefit reviews or appeals that might be needed. The coordination strategy others mentioned about timing with your ex-husband is really important, but don't forget to also consider your own health and financial situation. While delaying benefits to 70 could maximize survivor benefits for your daughter, make sure you're not creating financial hardship for yourself in the meantime, especially since you'll likely be her primary caregiver and advocate for years to come. Your proactive approach to this planning is exactly what every family in this situation should be doing. The combination of all the strategies discussed in this thread - getting those benefit estimates, consulting with specialized attorneys, understanding state programs - will give your daughter the strongest possible financial foundation for her future.
Welcome to the community! Thank you for bringing up the COLA aspect - that's such an important long-term consideration that I hadn't thought about. You're absolutely right that if we can maximize the base survivor benefit amount through strategic timing, those annual cost-of-living adjustments would compound over her lifetime, potentially making a significant difference over decades. The point about documenting her current care team is really smart too. I should definitely create a comprehensive file with all her medical providers, therapists, and care coordinators. This could be valuable not just for future benefit reviews, but also for ensuring continuity of care during any benefit transitions. You're also wise to remind me about balancing her future needs with my current financial situation. I don't want to delay benefits so long that I create hardship for myself now, especially since I am her primary caregiver. Finding that balance between maximizing her future survivor benefits and maintaining my ability to support both of us currently is definitely something I need to discuss with a financial advisor. This entire discussion has given me such a comprehensive roadmap for planning. Between getting those SSA benefit estimates, coordinating with my ex-husband, consulting specialized attorneys, and exploring all these state programs, I feel much more confident about securing her long-term financial stability. Thank you for adding the long-term perspective on COLAs and the practical advice about documentation - it's exactly these details that make the difference in thorough planning!
I'm new to this community and just wanted to say how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been! I'm in a very similar situation with my disabled adult daughter who receives SSDI, and I've been struggling to get clear answers about survivor benefits and planning strategies. Reading through all the expert advice and real experiences shared here has given me a complete roadmap for what I need to do. The suggestions about requesting Form SSA-7004 for benefit estimates, coordinating claiming strategies between divorced parents, getting everything in writing from SSA, and working with specialized attorneys who understand adult disabled child benefits are exactly what I needed to hear. I'm particularly grateful for the Social Security caseworker who clarified the key rules, and for everyone who shared specific resources like the Protection & Advocacy organizations, ABLE accounts, and state disability supplement programs. It's amazing how this community has turned what seemed like an overwhelming and confusing situation into a manageable planning process with concrete steps to take. @LordCommander, thank you for asking the questions that so many of us have been wondering about. Your proactive approach to planning while both parents are still healthy is inspiring, and I'm sure your daughter will benefit tremendously from all the strategic thinking you're putting into her future security. This thread should be required reading for every family dealing with adult disabled child benefits!
This is exactly the kind of question I had when my husband and I were doing our Social Security planning! The good news is that yes, you will receive his full age-70 benefit amount as your survivor benefit. The delayed retirement credits he earned by waiting until 70 become part of your survivor benefit - that's the whole point of the delay strategy when there's a significant difference between spouses' benefits. I went through a similar decision process with my financial planner, and she emphasized that delaying benefits is essentially purchasing a higher survivor benefit that lasts for life. In your case, that's an extra $1,510 per month ($3,750 vs your current $2,240) - a substantial difference that will really matter for your financial security. One practical tip I learned: start organizing all your important documents now (marriage certificate, both of your Social Security statements, etc.) in one easily accessible place. When the time comes to apply for survivor benefits, you'll need these documents and the process will be much smoother if everything is ready. The application can't be done online, so you'll either need to call SSA or visit an office in person. Your husband really did make the right choice for both of you!
Thank you for sharing your experience with Social Security planning! As someone who's relatively new to navigating all these benefit rules, it's really helpful to hear from people who have actually gone through the decision-making process with professional guidance. The way you explained it as "purchasing a higher survivor benefit" really makes the strategy click for me. I'm definitely going to start getting my documents organized now rather than waiting - that's such practical advice that I wouldn't have thought of on my own. It sounds like proper planning now can save a lot of stress and complications later when you're already dealing with grief.
I'm so glad you asked this question because it's something that affects many couples but isn't always clearly explained! Based on what I've learned about Social Security rules, you will indeed receive your husband's full age-70 benefit amount ($3,750) as your survivor benefit, not just what he would have gotten at his full retirement age. The delayed retirement credits (DRCs) that your husband earned by waiting until age 70 will transfer to you as the surviving spouse - that's exactly why financial planners often recommend this strategy for couples where one spouse has significantly higher earnings. In your case, that means you'd receive almost $1,500 more per month than your current benefit, which makes a huge difference over time. Since you've been married for 32 years and have a clear earnings history with Social Security, your situation should be straightforward when the time comes. Just remember that you'll need to contact Social Security directly (you can't apply for survivor benefits online) and have your important documents ready - marriage certificate, death certificate, and your Social Security information. Your husband's decision to delay really was like buying additional life insurance for you. Smart planning that will provide real financial security!
Thank you for such a clear and reassuring explanation! As someone who's just starting to learn about all these Social Security intricacies, I really appreciate how you broke down the delayed retirement credits concept. The way you described it as "buying additional life insurance" really helps me understand the strategy behind delaying benefits. It's encouraging to know that our 32-year marriage and straightforward work history should make the process more manageable when the time comes. I'm definitely going to start gathering those important documents now so everything is organized and ready. This whole discussion has been incredibly educational - it's amazing how much practical knowledge exists in this community!
One final clarification that might help: If you're receiving your own reduced retirement benefit now and later become eligible for survivor benefits, you have options: 1. You can continue receiving your reduced retirement benefit and wait until your FRA to apply for unreduced survivor benefits ($2,150) 2. You can apply for reduced survivor benefits now (you'd get less than $2,150) and switch from your own benefit The optimal strategy depends on the difference between your current benefit and the survivor benefit you'd receive now vs. at FRA. SSA should be able to tell you the exact amounts to help you decide which option is best when the time comes.
I went through a similar situation when my husband passed two years ago. I had filed early at 62, and he had filed at his FRA. The key thing to remember is that you have flexibility in timing when you apply for survivor benefits - you don't have to take them immediately when your husband passes. In my case, I continued receiving my own reduced benefit for a few more years and then switched to his full survivor benefit when I reached my FRA. This gave me the maximum survivor benefit without any reduction for early claiming of survivor benefits. One practical tip: when the time comes, make sure to ask the SSA representative to calculate both scenarios for you - taking survivor benefits immediately vs waiting until your FRA. They should be able to show you the exact dollar amounts to help you make the best decision for your situation.
Ruby Blake
I'm 61 and just starting to research this myself - thank you all for such detailed explanations! This thread has been incredibly helpful in understanding how the SSA calculator actually works. I had no idea it was making these assumptions about continued earnings. One question I haven't seen addressed yet: for those of you who stopped working but delayed claiming until FRA, how did you handle health insurance during those bridge years? That seems like it could be a major expense that might offset some of the benefits of this strategy. Also, @Miranda Singer, have you been able to pull your detailed earnings history yet? I'm curious what you discovered about whether continuing to work would actually replace lower-earning years in your calculation or not. The spreadsheet approach mentioned by several people sounds really smart - I think I'll try creating different scenarios too rather than just looking at the confusing calculator numbers!
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CosmicCruiser
•Great question about health insurance @Ruby Blake! That's definitely one of the biggest considerations for the "stop working but delay claiming" strategy. I'm still researching this myself, but from what I've learned so far, the main options seem to be COBRA (if available from your employer), marketplace plans through ACA, or potentially spousal coverage if your partner is still working. I haven't pulled my detailed earnings history yet, but after reading all these responses I'm definitely going to do that this week! Several people have mentioned how eye-opening it is to see your year-by-year earnings and understand which years might get replaced by continuing to work. I'm really curious to see if I have some low-earning years from early in my career that could be improved by working a few more years at my current $68,500 salary. The spreadsheet idea really does sound like the way to go - I think I've been getting overwhelmed by trying to keep all these scenarios straight in my head. Having it all laid out with concrete numbers for each option (work until FRA, stop and claim now, stop but delay claiming) will probably make the decision much clearer. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this has been so much more helpful than staring at that confusing calculator!
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Chloe Anderson
I'm 64 and just went through this exact same confusion last month! The SSA calculator really doesn't make it clear that it assumes continued earnings at your current level until FRA - I spent weeks trying to figure out why my numbers kept changing. What finally cleared it up for me was calling the SSA directly (took forever to get through) and having them explain that the $270 drop you're seeing when you input zeros is likely accurate. That represents the difference between continuing to earn $68,500/year until 67 (which might replace some lower-earning years in your "highest 35 years" calculation) versus stopping now with your current earnings history. But here's the key insight I wish I'd understood earlier: you don't have to choose between "keep working until FRA" and "stop working and claim reduced benefits now." There's a third option - stop working at 63 but delay claiming until your FRA at 67. This way you'd get your full unreduced benefit based on your current earnings history, without the 20-25% penalty for claiming early. The challenge is bridging those 4 years financially without Social Security income, but if you can manage it (through savings, part-time work under the earnings limit, or spousal support), you could end up with the best of both worlds - freedom from work stress AND your full benefit amount. I'd definitely recommend pulling your detailed Social Security earnings statement to see your year-by-year history. That'll help you understand whether those additional years at $68,500 would actually replace lower-earning years or not. Good luck with whatever you decide!
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Ruby Knight
•This is such a helpful summary of all the key points discussed in this thread! I'm also 63 and have been struggling with the same calculator confusion. Your explanation about the third option - stopping work but delaying the claim until FRA - really crystallizes what several others have mentioned. That seems like it could be the sweet spot for people who are ready to stop working but can afford to bridge those years without Social Security income. I'm definitely going to request my detailed earnings statement this week. It sounds like understanding whether I have low-earning years that could be replaced by continuing to work is crucial for making this decision. The idea that I could potentially get my full unreduced benefit while also getting out of the work stress is really appealing. Thanks for mentioning the earnings limit for part-time work during bridge years too - that's something I need to research more. It seems like there might be ways to earn some income during those 4 years without jeopardizing the strategy.
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