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As a newcomer to this community, I've been following this discussion with great interest since I'm currently helping my parents navigate Social Security benefits for the first time. The systematic nature of this calculation error is really concerning - it sounds like SSA representatives are consistently applying family maximum rules incorrectly when DAC benefits are involved. What I find most helpful from this discussion is the clear step-by-step breakdown that several knowledgeable members have provided: 1. Worker gets full PIA (unaffected by family maximum) 2. Determine spousal benefit eligibility based on comparison to 50% of worker's PIA 3. Calculate DAC benefit (50% of worker's PIA) 4. Only then apply family maximum reductions proportionally if total exceeds limit The fact that multiple families are getting the same backwards explanation about "shares of what's left" suggests this needs to be escalated beyond individual case corrections. For those calling SSA, I'd recommend specifically asking them to cite the POMS section they're using and requesting to speak with a Technical Expert who specializes in family maximum calculations with DAC benefits. This community's knowledge sharing has been invaluable - it's showing people how to advocate effectively for accurate benefit calculations. I hope everyone affected gets this resolved and that SSA addresses what appears to be a systematic training or procedural issue.

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Welcome to the community, Daniel! Your summary of the correct calculation steps is really helpful and matches what the most knowledgeable members here have outlined. As another newcomer who's been learning from this discussion, I'm struck by how this systematic error could be affecting so many families without them even realizing it. Your point about escalating this beyond individual case corrections is really important. While it's great that people in this thread are getting the information they need to advocate for themselves, the broader issue of SSA representatives consistently applying these rules incorrectly needs attention at a policy or training level. The suggestion about asking representatives to cite specific POMS sections is brilliant - it puts the burden on them to demonstrate they're following official procedures rather than just making up their own methodology. And requesting Technical Experts who specialize in these complex calculations seems like the best way to get past representatives who clearly don't understand the proper order of operations. As someone new to Social Security benefits, this entire discussion has been eye-opening about the importance of being informed and prepared to question calculations that don't seem right. The level of expertise and mutual support in this community gives me confidence that people can successfully navigate these complex situations when they have the right information and advocacy strategies. I hope all the families dealing with this get their benefits properly calculated and that this discussion helps identify and fix what appears to be a widespread procedural problem!

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As a newcomer to this community, I've been following this discussion with great interest and concern. The systematic nature of this calculation error that multiple families are experiencing is really alarming - it appears SSA representatives are consistently applying family maximum rules in the wrong order when disabled adult child (DAC) benefits are involved. From everything I've read here, the correct procedure should be: 1. Primary worker receives full PIA (unaffected by family maximum) 2. Determine spousal benefit eligibility by comparing spouse's own benefit to 50% of worker's PIA 3. Calculate what DAC would receive (50% of worker's PIA) 4. ONLY THEN apply family maximum reductions proportionally if the total exceeds the limit The fact that multiple families are getting the same backwards explanation about being limited to their "share of what's left" suggests this isn't just isolated errors but a widespread training or procedural issue that needs attention at the policy level. For anyone planning to call SSA about this, I'd recommend specifically asking them to cite the exact POMS section they're using for their calculation methodology and requesting to speak immediately with a Technical Expert who specializes in family maximum calculations involving DAC benefits. Don't waste time with representatives who clearly don't understand these complex rules. This discussion has been incredibly educational for someone new to Social Security benefits. The knowledge sharing and mutual support here is invaluable for helping people understand their rights and advocate for accurate calculations. I hope everyone affected gets this resolved quickly and that SSA addresses what appears to be a systematic problem affecting families with disabled adult children nationwide.

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I'm new to this community and SSI, and this entire discussion has been incredibly enlightening! My brother just started receiving SSI benefits last month, and I've been helping him understand all the regulations. Reading about the 9-month exclusion period for retroactive SSI payments is completely new information to me - I had no idea SSA had built in these specific protections for situations exactly like the OP's aunt experienced. What really stands out from this thread is how many people have confirmed this rule through their actual experiences with SSA caseworkers during redeterminations and reviews. The combination of personal stories plus that concrete regulation reference (POMS SI 01130.600) gives me so much confidence that this isn't just theoretical policy but something that gets consistently applied in real-world situations. I'm definitely going to help my brother implement that timeline documentation system that Sofia mentioned - creating a clear record showing the backpay deposit date, any temporary overages, and how quickly funds were spent down on legitimate expenses. It seems like such a practical approach for staying organized and prepared for future interactions with SSA. Thank you to everyone who shared their knowledge and real experiences here! This community support makes navigating the SSI system so much less overwhelming for newcomers like me. It's amazing how much clearer these complex regulations become when you hear from people who've actually lived through these situations rather than trying to decipher the official documentation alone.

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I'm new to this community and just wanted to say how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been! My mom recently got approved for SSI and we're still learning all the rules. I had absolutely no idea about the 9-month exclusion period for retroactive payments - this is such crucial information that I wish was explained more clearly when people first start receiving benefits. What gives me the most confidence is seeing how many different community members have confirmed this protection through their own direct experiences with SSA caseworkers. The specific regulation reference (POMS SI 01130.600) is also really valuable to have for documentation purposes. I love that timeline documentation idea that Sofia shared - I'm definitely going to help my mom set up something similar proactively so we're prepared for her first review. Having that clear paper trail showing the backpay deposit and quick spend-down seems like it would eliminate so much stress. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share their real-world experiences and expertise! This community knowledge is invaluable for newcomers trying to navigate the SSI system. Reading all these success stories and confirmations about the 9-month exclusion rule has been such a relief.

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careful with the earnings limit!!!!! my brother went over by like $3000 and they took back a bunch of his benefits. big mess to fix

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This is true - the earnings limit is strictly enforced. However, it's worth noting that once you reach your Full Retirement Age, SSA will recalculate your benefit to give you credit for the months they withheld benefits, resulting in a higher monthly amount going forward. So you're not permanently losing that money - it's more like a deferral.

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Just wanted to share my personal experience since I was in a very similar situation! I started collecting at 62 and continued working part-time for about 4 years. The FICA taxes definitely kept coming out of every paycheck, which felt frustrating at first, but it did pay off in the end. My benefit increased three times during those years - once by $31/month, another time by $18/month, and the final increase was $42/month. The increases happened automatically each January, and I could see the changes reflected in my SSA.gov account under the benefit payment history. One tip: keep good records of your earnings each year so you can track whether the recalculations are happening correctly. I also found it helpful to periodically check my earnings record online to make sure my employer was reporting my wages properly to SSA. The earnings limit was definitely something to watch carefully - I had to turn down some extra shifts a couple times to stay under the threshold, but overall continuing to work was worth it both financially and personally!

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This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping to hear about! It's really encouraging to see that you had multiple benefit increases over those 4 years. The tip about keeping records of earnings is smart - I hadn't thought about tracking that myself to verify the recalculations are working properly. Did you find it easy to see the increases reflected in your online account, or did you have to dig around to find the information?

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Great to hear they're finally showing up! I'm a new SSA beneficiary (just started receiving benefits in late 2024) and wasn't sure what to expect for my first tax season. This thread has been really helpful in understanding the normal timeline and what to do if there are delays. I'll make sure to keep checking my MySocialSecurity account over the next few days. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences!

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Welcome to the SSA benefits world! As someone who's been dealing with this for a few years now, I can tell you that delays like this happen occasionally but they usually get sorted out within a week or two of the January 31st deadline. Since you're new to this, just a heads up that you'll also want to keep an eye out for any Medicare-related tax forms if you're enrolled in Medicare - those can sometimes come separately. Hope your first tax season as a beneficiary goes smoothly!

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Same situation here - just got my 2024 SSA-1099 online yesterday after checking daily for weeks! For anyone still waiting, I noticed mine appeared around 6 AM, so try checking early in the morning. The system seems to update overnight. Also wanted to mention that if you're using tax software like TurboTax or H&R Block, you can usually import the SSA-1099 data directly once it's available in your MySocialSecurity account, which saves time on manual entry. Glad to see others are finally getting theirs too!

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Thanks for the tip about checking early morning! I'm still pretty new to navigating all this SSA stuff, but it's reassuring to see that these delays seem to resolve themselves relatively quickly. The direct import feature you mentioned for tax software sounds really convenient - I was dreading having to type in all those numbers manually. Really appreciate everyone sharing their timeline experiences here, it's made me feel much less anxious about the whole process!

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This thread has been incredibly enlightening for someone like me who's just starting to understand the Medicare system! I'm about two years away from eligibility, but seeing @Javier Torres's complete journey from confusion to resolution has been so educational. It's really reassuring to learn that these coordination issues between SSA and Medicare are actually pretty standard during enrollment transitions rather than major system errors. What impressed me most is how the community came together with so many similar experiences - it really shows that new enrollees should expect these timing hiccups might happen. The Claimyr recommendation seems like a game-changer for actually getting through to government agencies without the usual hours-long wait times. Thanks to everyone who shared their real-world experiences here. This is exactly the kind of practical knowledge that makes navigating government services feel less overwhelming for those of us preparing for our own Medicare journey down the road!

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@Dylan Cooper, I completely agree! As another newcomer to this community who's still learning about government benefits, this thread has been like having a personal guide through the Medicare enrollment process. What really stands out to me is how @Javier Torres created such a valuable resource by sharing both the initial confusion and the final resolution - it transforms what could have been just another help "me post" into a complete case study that helps everyone understand what to expect. The fact that so many community members have encountered these exact same Medicare/SSA coordination issues really shows that these aren t'system failures but just normal processing gaps that happen when different agencies need time to sync up. I m'definitely saving this entire conversation as essential reading for when my own enrollment time comes. It s'amazing how much more prepared and less anxious I feel about navigating these processes after seeing real people share their actual experiences and solutions!

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This thread is exactly what I needed to find as someone who's completely new to navigating Medicare and Social Security! I'm still about 18 months away from my own enrollment, but reading through @Javier Torres's entire experience from that initial panic about an unexpected check to getting clear answers from SSA has been incredibly educational. What really stands out to me is how many community members have shared nearly identical experiences - it shows that these coordination hiccups between Medicare and SSA systems are actually quite normal during enrollment transitions rather than rare system errors to worry about. The Claimyr tip is going straight into my preparation notes since getting through to government agencies by phone seems to be such a universal challenge. Thank you to everyone who contributed their real-world experiences here. This is exactly the kind of practical community knowledge that makes complex government processes feel much more manageable for those of us preparing for our own journey through the Medicare enrollment maze!

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