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Can I receive widow benefits while working full-time before FRA? Confused about SS earnings limit

I recently lost my husband who had been collecting Social Security since he was 62. I'm still working full-time and am 59 years old (not at my full retirement age yet). I've been trying to understand if I qualify for widow benefits while still working. From what I've read, it seems there would be some kind of reduction—something about $1 for every $2 I earn over a certain amount? But I'm getting confused about whether this applies to MY earnings or HIS benefit amount. Does anyone know how this works? Would I even qualify at my age? I make about $68,000 annually at my job if that matters. I don't want to go through the whole application process if I'm not eligible at all because of my income.

Yes, you are eligible for survivor benefits as a widow even while working full-time, but there are several important things to understand: 1. You can claim widow benefits as early as age 60 (or 50 if disabled) 2. If you're working and under your Full Retirement Age (FRA), the earnings test does apply 3. For 2025, the earnings limit is approximately $22,300 (they adjust it yearly) 4. For every $2 you earn above that limit, $1 is withheld from benefits 5. This is based on YOUR earnings ($68,000), not his benefit amount Since you're still working and making $68,000, a significant portion of your widow benefit would be withheld due to the earnings test. However, when you reach your FRA, SSA will recalculate your benefit to credit you for months when benefits were reduced or withheld.

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Thank you for explaining this! So if I understand correctly, I CAN apply even though I'm 59, but I'd need to wait until I'm 60 to actually start receiving benefits? And then a lot would be withheld because of my salary? Would there be any point in even applying if most of it would be withheld?

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When my uncle passed last yr my aunt was in same boat, working PT making around 30k. SSA told her it wasn't worth applying till she either quit or hit FRA bc of that earnings test thing. She was losing almost everything.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. I don't want to go through all the paperwork just to get nothing or almost nothing because of the earnings limit.

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I would still recommend applying when you turn 60. Even if most of your widow's benefit is withheld now due to the earnings test, there are two important advantages: 1. You'll establish your eligibility in the SSA system 2. You'll begin receiving any portion you're eligible for immediately 3. Most importantly, when you reach your FRA, they'll automatically adjust your benefit amount to account for the months benefits were withheld You also need to understand the difference between filing for your own retirement benefit vs. widow benefits. These are separate entitlements, and you can file for one now and switch to the other later if that maximizes your benefits. For example, you could take reduced widow benefits at 60 and switch to your own (unreduced) retirement benefit at your FRA if it's higher.

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This! My mom did exactly this strategy and it worked great for her. Got some survivors benefits early then switched to her own retirement benefit at FRA which was higher. The SSA ppl never volunteer this info you have to know to ask!!!

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The whole earnings test thing is RIDICULOUS! It's basically a tax on grief. My husband died and I kept working (what choice did I have with 2 kids?) and they took back almost all the survivor benefits. Then they act like they're doing you a favor by "recalculating" later. It's OUR MONEY that our spouses paid into the system!!! Why should we be punished for working???

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I feel this so much. It does seem unfair. My husband worked for 43 years and paid into the system his whole life. Now that he's gone, I can't access those benefits without essentially being penalized for still working myself. I hadn't thought about it that way before, but you're right - it does feel like a tax on grief.

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Have you tried calling the SSA directly about your specific situation? When my wife passed, I was in a similar situation (working full-time, not yet at FRA). I tried calling their main number for WEEKS and could never get through - always disconnected or told to call back later. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an SSA agent in under 10 minutes. They have a video demo showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent I spoke with was able to run calculations based on my specific earnings and give me actual numbers about how much I would receive after the earnings test reduction. This was SO much more helpful than trying to guess based on the general rules. In my case, it turned out I'd still get about $340/month even with the reduction, which wasn't a lot but definitely worth applying for.

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I've been hesitant to call because everyone I know says they can never get through. I'll check out that service - it would be really helpful to get some actual numbers for my specific situation before making any decisions. Even a few hundred dollars a month would make a difference.

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wait im confuse. i thought widows benefits and survivors benefits are different things?? which one are we talking about??

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They're actually the same thing - 'widow benefits' is just a specific type of survivor benefits that goes to the surviving spouse. Survivor benefits is the broader category that includes benefits for surviving spouses, children, and sometimes parents or divorced spouses of the deceased worker.

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My neighbor told me that if you make too much they take it all away but then after you retire they give you extra to make up for it. Is that the recalculation thing someone mentioned?

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That's partly correct. If benefits are withheld due to the earnings test, when you reach your Full Retirement Age, the SSA will recalculate your benefit amount to give you credit for the months when benefits were reduced or withheld. This results in a higher monthly benefit going forward, but you don't receive a lump sum for all past withheld amounts.

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Something nobody mentioned yet - make sure to apply for the one-time death benefit of $255! It's not much but it's something. And bring your marriage certificate when you apply for widow benefits - they always ask for that!!

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Thanks for the reminder about the death benefit. We had a joint bank account so I think the funeral home actually helped with applying for that already. Good tip about the marriage certificate though - I'll make sure to have that ready.

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Just wondering - have you checked if your own retirement benefit might actually be higher than your widow benefit? If you've been earning $68k for many years, your own benefit might actually be better than your husband's reduced benefit (since he claimed at 62). In that case, you might want to just wait and claim your own benefit later.

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That's a really good point. He was a teacher for part of his career and had some years under WEP, so his benefit wasn't as high as it might've been otherwise. I should probably check what my own benefit would be at various ages. I think the SSA has that calculator on their website, don't they?

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Based on all the advice here, your best approach would be: 1. Apply for widow benefits when you turn 60 (the earliest eligibility age) 2. Understand that much of it will be withheld due to the earnings test while you're working 3. When you reach your Full Retirement Age (probably 67 for you), you'll have a choice: - Continue with widow benefits (which will no longer be reduced for early claiming) - Switch to your own retirement benefit if it's higher This strategy gives you some benefits now and preserves your options for maximizing benefits later. The SSA won't automatically give you the highest benefit - you need to know your options and request the best one for your situation.

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Thank you so much for laying it out so clearly! I think I'll follow this advice and apply when I turn 60 next year. Even if I only get a small amount after the earnings test, it seems worth establishing eligibility now so I have options later. I really appreciate everyone's help in understanding this complicated system!

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