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Can I work while collecting survivor benefits from ex-husband? Different from SS retirement limits?

I recently discovered something that could really help my financial situation. I'm a 62-year-old widow and just found out I might be eligible for survivor benefits on my ex-husband's record (he passed away last year). We were married for 14 years before divorcing in 2005. I'm still working full-time making about $45,000 a year and had planned to work until at least 65. I know there's an earnings limit of $21,240 for 2025 if I claim my own retirement benefits early, and they deduct $1 for every $2 above that limit. But what about survivor benefits from an ex-spouse? Do the same earnings limits apply? Or are they different? Can I keep working full-time while collecting these benefits? I'm totally confused about whether survivor benefits have different rules than regular retirement benefits when it comes to working. I don't want to file and then get hit with a huge overpayment notice later! Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Connor Rupert

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same rules apply for survivors as for retirement. you'll still have the $21,240 limit in 2025 and theyll take back $1 for every $2 you make over that. i found out the hard way last year ugh

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Oh no! Did you end up with an overpayment notice? How much did they take back?

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Molly Hansen

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The previous response is correct that the earnings test applies, but there's more to consider here. Yes, survivor benefits (including those from an ex-spouse) are subject to the same annual earnings limit as retirement benefits before your Full Retirement Age (FRA). However, there's something important to understand: claiming survivor benefits doesn't affect your own retirement benefit amount. This means you could: 1. Take reduced survivor benefits now at 62 (subject to earnings limit) 2. Let your own retirement benefit grow until 70 for maximum amount 3. Switch to your own benefit later if it's higher This is one of the few remaining claiming strategies after the 2015 law changes. The survivor benefit amount is based on what your ex-husband would have received at his FRA, or what he was receiving when he died. If you're making $45,000, you'd be about $23,760 over the limit, so they'd withhold approximately $11,880 from your annual survivor benefit. If the survivor benefit is large enough, this could still make financial sense.

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Wow, thank you for such a detailed explanation! I didn't realize I could switch later. Do you know if I need to specifically tell SSA that I want to restrict my application to just survivor benefits and not my retirement benefits? I don't want to accidentally file for both.

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Brady Clean

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My sister got hit with a HUGE overpayment when she was working and collecting survivors. Like $9000 she had to pay back!! Be super careful and make sure you report your earnings.

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Skylar Neal

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This is an important point. The SSA doesn't automatically track your earnings in real-time. You need to proactively report if you expect to exceed the annual earnings limit. You can do this when you initially apply for benefits, and you should update them if your income changes throughout the year. This helps avoid the surprise overpayment notices many people receive after the fact when the SSA eventually matches their earnings records with what was reported to the IRS.

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Kelsey Chin

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WHY does SS make everything SO COMPLICATED??? The rules are different for disability, retirement, survivors... it's like they WANT us to make mistakes! 😡 I spent HOURS trying to figure this out when my husband died and got different answers from THREE different SS employees. The entire system is designed to confuse seniors!

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Norah Quay

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ikr? my mom went through the same thing last year. total nightmare dealing with them!

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Molly Hansen

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To directly answer your follow-up question: Yes, you absolutely need to be specific that you're applying only for survivor benefits. When you apply, make it very clear that you want to restrict your application to survivor benefits only and that you're not applying for retirement benefits on your own record. This is critical because the SSA representative might not volunteer this information. Their default is often to process applications for all benefits you're eligible for, which would trigger your retirement benefit too. The technical term is that you want to "restrict the scope of your application" to widow's benefits only. Get this in writing if possible during your application process. Also, after you apply, check your my Social Security account to verify they processed it correctly as survivor benefits only.

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Thank you! I'll definitely use those exact words when I apply. I appreciate the specific language to use.

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Connor Rupert

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one other thing - if you do go over the earnings limit, they don't take it evenly from each check. they withhold FULL checks until they've collected the amount you owe. so you might not get any benefits for a few months and then they start again. just fyi so you can plan your budget

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Skylar Neal

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Here's something important that hasn't been mentioned yet: the earnings limit disappears completely the month you reach your Full Retirement Age. If you're 62 now, your FRA is likely 67 (depending on birth year). So you'd face the earnings limit for 5 years, then could earn unlimited amounts without affecting your benefits. Also, if you decide to file, the SSA does a "mid-year monthly test" in your first year of entitlement. This means if you've already earned over the annual limit before claiming, but then stop working or reduce hours after claiming, you can still receive benefits for the months your earnings are under the monthly limit (about $1,770 for 2025). Finally, only wages from employment or net earnings from self-employment count toward the earnings limit. Investment income, pensions, other government benefits, etc. don't count against you.

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This is very helpful! I didn't know about the monthly test in the first year. I might consider reducing my hours later this year and applying then. Would I need to actually quit my job or could I just reduce hours enough to stay under the monthly limit?

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Skylar Neal

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You don't need to quit your job. You just need to ensure your gross wages in any given month stay under the monthly limit (approximately $1,770 for 2025) for any month you want to receive benefits in your first year of entitlement. After that first calendar year, they'll switch to the annual test regardless of your monthly earnings pattern.

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Norah Quay

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my mom went thru this exact thing! she just waited till 66 to claim cuz the math worked out better with her salary. every situation is unique tho

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Brady Clean

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I'm still confused about survivor vs retirement benefits. Are they the same amount? How do you know which one to take?

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Molly Hansen

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They're usually different amounts. Your retirement benefit is based on your own work history. The survivor benefit is based on your ex-husband's work history - specifically, it's based on what he would have received at his full retirement age. The best strategy depends on your specific situation. Generally: 1. If your survivor benefit would be higher than your own benefit at age 70, take the survivor benefit at your FRA (to get the full amount). 2. If your own benefit at 70 would be higher than the survivor benefit, take the survivor benefit early (even with the reduction) and switch to your own at 70. This is why getting a detailed benefit calculation from SSA for both benefits is so important before making a decision.

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Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I've made an appointment with my local SSA office for next month to discuss my specific situation. In the meantime, I'll gather my ex-husband's death certificate and our marriage/divorce documents. It's complicated, but it sounds like it might still be worth claiming survivor benefits even with the earnings reduction - especially if I can switch to my own benefit later. I'll definitely be clear about restricting my application to ONLY survivor benefits!

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