Social Security widow benefits denied because I earn too much - is this accurate?
I recently turned 62 and have been trying to understand my Social Security options after losing my husband in 2023. He was 72 when he passed and had been collecting his retirement benefits for a couple years. When I contacted SSA about possibly getting widow's benefits while I continue working, the representative told me I couldn't collect anything because my earnings are too high ($85,000/year at my current job). I'm planning to work until my full retirement age (66 and 10 months), but wondering if I'm missing out on benefits I could be receiving now. Is it really true that I can't collect ANY widow's benefits because of my income? I thought there might be some partial payment I could receive even while working. Any insights would be appreciated!
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Issac Nightingale
The SSA rep was giving you correct information. Since you're under your FRA and earning well above the annual earnings limit ($22,320 for 2025), your widow's benefits would be completely offset by the earnings test. For every $2 you earn above the limit, $1 in benefits is withheld. With your $85,000 income, the reduction would exceed any potential widow's benefit payment. However, you should know that once you reach your FRA, the earnings test no longer applies and you can earn any amount without reduction in benefits. You might want to inquire about filing a restricted application for just widow's benefits at your FRA, which would allow your own retirement benefit to continue growing until age 70.
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Serene Snow
•Thank you for explaining this! So basically I need to wait until my FRA to collect anything unless I reduce my work hours significantly. Will I need to reapply for widow's benefits when I reach my FRA, or is my application already in their system?
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Romeo Barrett
that happened to me too!!!! The ssa lady told me i couldnt get ANY of my late husbands ss because i was making too much at my job. but then my sister said i should apply anyway because rules change sometimes. im so confused by all of this tbh
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Marina Hendrix
•The earnings limit is RIDICULOUS!! Why do they penalize us for working? I lost my husband last year and can't even get his benefits because I'm still working - which I HAVE TO DO because I can't afford to retire yet! It's like they're punishing us for being productive citizens. The whole system is messed up. And just FYI - that earnings test disappears when you hit your full retirement age, so they clearly just made up these rules to save money. 😡
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Justin Trejo
I went through something very similar last year - my husband passed and I was still working making about $70k. I couldn't collect widow's benefits either because of the earnings test. After dealing with endless busy signals and disconnections trying to get more information from SSA, I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to a representative without the wait. They connected me to SSA in about 20 minutes instead of spending days trying to get through. The agent I spoke with confirmed I couldn't get benefits while earning that much, but gave me the exact calculations and helped me understand my options for when I do retire. There's a quick video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU
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Serene Snow
•Thanks for the tip! I've been trying to get through to SSA for more detailed information but keep getting disconnected or told the wait is 2+ hours. I'll check out that service - at this point I just need answers about exactly when and how I should apply.
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Alana Willis
Not to contradict anyone here but wantd to say that I think you should double check this with another SSA rep. My cousin was in almost the same situation (widow at 63, still working) and she does get a small payment even though she makes about $65k. Something about how her husband's benefit was much higher than what her own will be. So maybe it depends on your specific numbers?
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Issac Nightingale
•This is actually possible in some specific scenarios. If the widow benefit amount is substantially higher than the earnings test reduction, there could be some remainder payment. It's all about the math - it depends on exactly how much the widow benefit would be before the reduction. The general rule still applies (reduction of $1 for every $2 earned above the limit), but if the starting widow benefit is high enough, there might be something left after the reduction.
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Tyler Murphy
My wife had same experience after I... wait sorry, I meant my friend's wife had this same issue after he passed. She was 63 making about $90k and couldn't get any of his benefits until she retired. She was pretty upset about it too. When she finally retired at 66 (her FRA), she started getting the widow benefit which was higher than her own retirement would have been. The SSA actually did explain it well to her but she had to visit the office in person to get all the details.
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Romeo Barrett
•so is it always better to take the widows benefit than your own?? im turning 62 next month and still don't know what to do!!
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Issac Nightingale
•It's not always better to take widow's benefits over your own. It depends on your earnings history compared to your deceased spouse's. If your own benefit at full retirement age would be higher than your widow benefit, it might make sense to take the widow benefit early and switch to your own at 70 when it's maximized. Or vice versa if your widow benefit would be higher. This is why it's so important to get accurate calculations from SSA for your specific situation.
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Serene Snow
Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses. I'll definitely try to get a more detailed calculation from SSA about my specific case. From what I'm understanding, I probably won't be eligible for any widow's benefits until I reach my FRA due to my current earnings, but I need to confirm the exact numbers. I'll look into getting an appointment with my local office or using that Claimyr service to avoid the endless phone waits. I'll update here if I find out anything useful that might help others in the same situation!
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Justin Trejo
•Good plan! One more thing to consider - you might want to ask about survivor benefits vs. widow benefits specifically. Sometimes the terminology can be confusing but they might have slightly different rules that could affect your situation. Best of luck!
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