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My sister works for SSA (not saying which office) and she told me they're EXTREMELY understaffed right now. Like worse than she's ever seen in 15 years. The payment centers have backlogs of thousands of claims. So even after your claim gets to the payment center, it might still take several weeks to process depending on which center got it and how backlogged they are. Just sharing some inside perspective!
Exactly my point!!! They're using these "processing steps" as excuses when the real problem is they're understaffed and can't handle the workload. But they'll never admit that to claimants!
UPDATE: Just wanted to let everyone know that my first payment finally showed up in my bank account this morning! So it took exactly 4 weeks from the February 19th date when the payment center received my claim. Thanks to everyone who provided advice and reassurance. For anyone else going through this process - be patient and trust that the system does eventually work, even with those mysterious delays between offices!
Great news! Thanks for coming back to update us. It's always helpful to hear success stories to balance out all the frustration posts.
Want to add somthing I found out to late. Tell your dad to make sure SSA has HIS direct deposit info on file before your mom passes. My mom died and dad had no income for almost 2 months because they were depositing to moms account that got frozen when she died. The survivor benefit stuff is a mess.
Thank you everyone for your helpful responses. This clarifies so much for us. I'll make sure to work with the hospice social worker to look into the additional medical cost assistance programs mentioned, and I'll definitely make sure my dad has his direct deposit information on file with SSA. It sounds like there's no benefit to pursuing the compassionate allowance route in our situation, which helps us focus our energy on more productive paths. I truly appreciate all of your insights and experiences during this difficult time.
Wishing your family strength during this difficult time. Please come back if you have any other questions as things progress.
my mom had this problem to. they make it confusing on purpose i think. she ended up just sticking with the surviver benefits becuz they were like $300 more then her own. but it depends on how much you and your husband worked and how much you both made over your lifetime.
BTW be careful about any retroactive benefits they might try to give you!!! My friend switched at her FRA and they offered her 6 months of retroactive benefits which SEEMED great but actually permanently reduced her monthly amount!!! The rules are super complicated and the reps don't always explain everything correctly.
This is an excellent point that many people miss. When you apply for retirement benefits at or after FRA, SSA offers up to 6 months of retroactive benefits. However, accepting this means your benefit amount is calculated as if you filed earlier, resulting in a permanently lower monthly payment. For survivor benefits switching to retirement benefits, this can be especially confusing. Always ask specifically how accepting retroactive benefits will affect your long-term payment amount.
just wait for the letter the other person mentioned, usually comes pretty quick. my husband got his in like 10 days after the approval showed up online
That's good to know, thanks! Did the letter have all the details about payment dates and everything?
One other option you could try before calling: If you saved a PDF copy of your application (which they recommend during the application process), your requested start date would be shown there. Many people overlook this, but if you did save it, check that file.
That's a great suggestion! I just checked and I do have the PDF saved. You're right - the start date is clearly shown on page 2. According to my application, I selected benefits to begin next month. Now I'll just wait for the award letter to confirm that's what they processed. Thank you so much for this tip!
Excellent! Glad you found it. Just be aware that occasionally SSA might adjust your start date by a month depending on when you applied and other factors. The award letter will be the final confirmation, but at least now you have a good reference point.
is this the same if ur on disability? i turn 67 next yr and was wondering if i should wait to switch from SSDI to retirement
The situation is different for SSDI. When you reach your Full Retirement Age, your disability benefits automatically convert to retirement benefits, generally at the same amount. The delayed retirement credits strategy only applies to retirement benefits that haven't been claimed yet. Since you're already receiving SSDI, you won't have the option to delay and increase your benefit - the conversion happens automatically.
Seeing alot of good info here but nobody mentioned TAXES! Depending on ur other income, delaying might push u into a higher tax bracket when u finally claim. My neighbor waited till 70 and now has to pay taxes on 85% of his SS cuz his required minimum distributions from his 401k plus the bigger SS benefit put him over the limit. Somethin to think about!!!
This is partially accurate but potentially misleading. The taxation of Social Security benefits is based on your combined income regardless of when you claim. If anything, claiming earlier could result in higher lifetime taxation because you'd be drawing from retirement accounts alongside Social Security for more years. Tax planning is important, but it generally doesn't favor early claiming from a mathematical perspective.
i think they just take your full retirement amount for 6 months and subtract what survivor benefits you already got for those 6 months. that's what happened with my uncle last year when he did this exact same thing.
YEP thats how they did it for my wife too. she got a smaller lump sum than she expected because of this but at least her monthly check is bigger now going forward!!!!!
I'm in a similar situation and meeting with an SSA representative next week. One thing I've been told is that you can request a benefit verification letter through your online account once you get back in. This will show your current survivor benefit amount which helps when making comparisons. Also worth noting - when you switch from survivor to retirement, your Medicare premium payment method might change. I was told to watch out for this to avoid any gaps in coverage.
Thank you! I didn't even think about the Medicare premium payment method changing. That's really good to know. Could you possibly update this thread after your meeting next week to share what you learn? I'd really appreciate hearing about your experience.
I recommend having them run a complete AERO (Automatic Earnings Recomputation Operation) calculation during your call to ensure all your earnings are properly counted. Sometimes earnings from recent years or certain employers don't get automatically included in your benefit calculation. Also - very important - ask them to calculate what's called your "RIB-LIM" amount. This is a special calculation that applies to people who took survivor benefits early and are now considering switching to their own retirement benefit at FRA or later. The RIB-LIM calculation can sometimes result in a higher payment than the standard calculation. Finally, since you mentioned health concerns, remember that the general breakeven point between taking benefits at FRA versus age 70 is typically around age 82-83. If you have serious health concerns, maximizing monthly income sooner rather than later may make more sense than waiting.
Thank you for this detailed information! I've never heard of the RIB-LIM calculation or AERO - I'll definitely ask about these. The breakeven point information is really helpful too. Given my health issues, I probably won't make it to 83, so waiting until 70 probably doesn't make sense for my situation.
How did the call go? I'm curious what you decided because I'm in nearly the same situation but haven't reached my FRA yet.
The call just finished! They were actually really helpful. My own retirement benefit is $1,875 compared to my survivor benefit of $1,450, so it's about $425 more per month. I decided to switch to my own benefit effective next month. They explained there won't be any gap in payments. The RIB-LIM calculation someone mentioned above actually did apply to my case! The agent was impressed I knew to ask about it. Thanks everyone for your help - I feel much better now that it's done.
My aunt with COPD had to transition from Medicaid to just Medicare last year and she found a really good Medicare Advantage plan that covers most of her respiratory treatments and oxygen supplies. Not saying it's ideal but there are options if you do lose Medicaid. Also her social worker at the hospital helped a lot with finding patient assistance programs for her medications - have you talked to your hospital's social work department?
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Thank you SO much for this detailed follow-up. I hadn't heard of the Extra Help program before - I'll look into that right away. I think I need to find an attorney this week and hold off on doing anything with the crypto until I have proper guidance. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to help me understand my options.
One thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned yet - when your husband passes away (hopefully many years from now), you'd be eligible for survivor benefits. As a widow, you'd receive 100% of whatever your husband was receiving at his death. If he took benefits at 62 with a 30% reduction, your widow benefit would also be that reduced amount. Some couples maximize by having the higher earner delay as long as possible (to age 70) to create the largest possible survivor benefit.
That's a really important point I hadn't considered. My husband is set on taking his benefit at 62, but maybe I should show him how it affects my future survivor benefit too. Thank you for bringing this up.
my bro n sis-in-law just thru this. big headache. they had 2 go in person to ssa office cuz every time they calld they got diffrnt answers!! makes u crazy!!
Going in person can work, but the wait times are ridiculous these days. When I called using Claimyr, the agent pulled up both my and my husband's records and walked me through three different claiming scenarios with actual dollar amounts. It was so helpful to have real numbers to work with instead of just percentages. Definitely worth connecting with an actual agent who can see your specific details.
Lucy Taylor
So from what everyone's saying, since I'll keep working anyway and don't need the income right now, waiting until 70 makes the most sense - especially since it would give my wife a higher survivor benefit if needed. I appreciate all the input - will probably try to get an appointment with SSA to get my specific numbers before making the final decision.
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Connor Murphy
•That sounds like a good plan. One more consideration: tax implications. Since you'll continue earning business income, taking Social Security earlier might mean more of your SS benefits get taxed. Up to 85% of your benefits can be subject to income tax depending on your combined income. Waiting until you reduce your work hours might be more tax-efficient as well. Definitely worth discussing with both SSA and potentially a tax professional.
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Kaiya Rivera
omg everyone's making this so complicated lol. just take it when u need it. all these calculations and projections... nobody knows when they're gonna die!
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