Can I earn unlimited income after FRA while collecting Social Security at 66 & 10 months?
I've been running my plumbing business for 27 years and don't plan to fully retire anytime soon, but I'm wondering about starting my SS benefits. My full retirement age (FRA) is 66 and 10 months which I'll reach next March. If I start collecting at my FRA, will there be any limit on how much I can earn from my business without reducing my benefits? I've heard there's no earnings limit after FRA, but want to confirm. Also, I've been paying into Social Security my entire working life (since I was 17) and have had good income years. If I don't collect at my FRA and wait longer, will my monthly benefit amount still increase? Or am I already maxed out at what I'd get at 66 & 10 months? Just trying to figure out the smartest timing strategy since I'll keep working either way.
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Connor Murphy
You've got it right about the earnings limit! Once you reach your full retirement age (66 and 10 months in your case), the earnings test goes away completely. You can make $500,000 a year running your plumbing business and still get every penny of your Social Security retirement benefit. As for your second question - yes, your benefit will continue to increase if you delay beyond your FRA. You'll earn delayed retirement credits of 8% per year (or 2/3 of 1% per month) up until age 70. After 70, there's no more increase. So if you wait from your FRA to 70, that's a roughly 26.7% permanent increase in your monthly benefit amount. Since you plan to keep working anyway, and presumably don't need the SS income right now, delaying until 70 might be your best financial move unless you have health concerns.
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Lucy Taylor
•Thanks for the clear explanation! I'm in pretty good health, so waiting until 70 might make sense since my business still generates solid income. Do you know if those delayed retirement credits also increase any potential survivor benefits my wife might get if I die first? She's 5 years younger than me.
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KhalilStar
its NO LIMIT after fra period. take it when u want but yes it goes up 8% every year til 70 then stops. my brother waited til 70 and gets way more than me cuz i took mine at 66. wish i waited now lol. but yeah with your busines if ur still making good $ might as well wait
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Amelia Dietrich
•Just to clarify since you mentioned you "took mine at 66" - the increases between 62 and FRA are different than the 8% delayed retirement credits after FRA. Before FRA, it's about avoiding reductions rather than earning increases. The reduction is approximately 5/9 of 1% per month for the first 36 months before FRA and 5/12 of 1% for months beyond that. So taking benefits at 62 means a reduction of about 25-30% compared to FRA, depending on your exact FRA. I just want to make sure other readers understand there are two different calculations at work - avoiding early claiming reductions versus earning delayed retirement credits.
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Kaiya Rivera
I was in a similar situation with my electrical contracting business. Waited until 70 to claim and SOOOO glad I did. The extra amount is substantial and now that I'm 78 I've definitely come out ahead financially.
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Katherine Ziminski
One thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned yet - while your benefit increases by waiting, remember that it's a break-even calculation. Generally, you'd need to live until about 82-83 to break even on waiting from FRA to age 70. If you live beyond that, waiting was the better financial choice. If you don't make it that far, taking it earlier would have been better. Also, yes, the delayed retirement credits DO increase potential survivor benefits for your wife, which is a significant consideration since she's younger. If you pass away first, she would be eligible for 100% of your benefit amount including all delayed retirement credits you earned.
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Lucy Taylor
•The survivor benefit aspect is really important - thanks for mentioning that. My wife hasn't worked much outside our home/business so her own benefit would be much smaller. Sounds like waiting would protect her better if I go first.
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Noah Irving
Have you tried calling SSA to get a personalized analysis of your situation? I spent WEEKS trying to get through on their 800 number to discuss my options (similarly self-employed), kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours. Finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual SSA representative in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The SSA rep was able to run my personal numbers and give me projections for different claiming ages based on my actual earnings history. Made my decision much clearer than general advice.
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KhalilStar
•does this really work? ive tried calling ssa like 10 times always get hung up on after waiting forever
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Noah Irving
•Yes, it actually worked for me. Got through to SSA in under 30 minutes after trying for weeks on my own. The rep I spoke with pulled up my earnings history and gave me exact benefit amounts for different claiming ages.
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Vanessa Chang
THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THIS!!!! But if you work past 70 and DONT claim your benefits you're literally GIVING THEM FREE MONEY. They hope you forget to file!! Its YOUR MONEY you EARNED IT. Don't let them keep it!! File at LEAST by 70 no matter what!!!!
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Amelia Dietrich
•This is actually correct advice (file by 70) but not for the conspiracy-theory reasons suggested. There's simply no financial benefit to delaying past 70 since delayed retirement credits stop accruing at that point. However, SSA doesn't keep your money if you delay filing - you can request up to 6 months of retroactive benefits when you do file. Beyond that though, yes, you would lose out on payments you could have received.
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Lucy Taylor
So from what everyone's saying, since I'll keep working anyway and don't need the income right now, waiting until 70 makes the most sense - especially since it would give my wife a higher survivor benefit if needed. I appreciate all the input - will probably try to get an appointment with SSA to get my specific numbers before making the final decision.
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Connor Murphy
•That sounds like a good plan. One more consideration: tax implications. Since you'll continue earning business income, taking Social Security earlier might mean more of your SS benefits get taxed. Up to 85% of your benefits can be subject to income tax depending on your combined income. Waiting until you reduce your work hours might be more tax-efficient as well. Definitely worth discussing with both SSA and potentially a tax professional.
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Kaiya Rivera
omg everyone's making this so complicated lol. just take it when u need it. all these calculations and projections... nobody knows when they're gonna die!
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