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my husband has diabetes and SSA has him labeled as disabled even though he works full time and has never received benefits. when i asked about it they said its just how their system categorizes certain medical conditions even if the person isnt functionally disabled or receiving anything. might be similar for genetic stuff?
This is an important point. SSA's internal categorization doesn't always align with how we understand disability in everyday life. Having a medical condition noted in their system doesn't necessarily mean they consider someone "disabled" for benefit purposes. It's likely just part of their family medical history tracking, especially since genetic conditions and family relationships are relevant for certain benefit determinations.
You're probably right. I just panic about anything that might affect her benefits!
I've been fighting with Social Security for 6 MONTHS about my widow benefits!!! They keep sending me in circles and nobody can give me straight answers about anything!!! Every time I call they tell me something different and I'm SICK OF IT!!! I finally got my Congressman's office involved last week because this is ridiculous. The whole system is designed to CONFUSE us so we don't get what we're entitled to!!! My husband worked for 45 YEARS and paid into the system and now they want to nickel and dime me over benefits I DESERVE!!! Thank you for sharing your story. I'm bringing printouts about this RIB LIM thing to my next appointment because I BET this is what's happening in my case too!!
I'm sorry you're having such a difficult experience. Getting your Congressional representative involved was a good move - they often have dedicated staff who work on Social Security issues and can help navigate the system. RIB-LIM may or may not apply in your case, as it depends on your specific circumstances and benefit amounts. Before your appointment, try to gather the following information to help determine if RIB-LIM applies to you: 1. Your date of birth 2. Your deceased spouse's date of birth 3. Your deceased spouse's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) 4. Your own PIA based on your work record 5. The date of your spouse's death With this information, you or a financial advisor can better assess whether RIB-LIM affects your optimal filing strategy. I hope your situation gets resolved soon.
this is y i tell everyone to just go to the office in person, its easier than calling
One other benefit to consider: if you work after starting Social Security benefits and pay FICA taxes, the SSA will automatically recalculate your benefit amount annually. If your current earnings are higher than one of the 35 years used to calculate your initial benefit, your benefit amount could actually INCREASE. So working could potentially give you a permanent raise in your Social Security payment!
I had no idea about this! That's an extra bonus I wasn't expecting. Thank you!
Is anyone else dealing with MS and working? I'm trying to decide if I should keep pushing through or apply for SSDI too. My symptoms are getting worse but I'm scared to leave my job...
That's a very personal decision. Remember you can work up to SGA level ($1,470/month in 2025) while your SSDI application is pending. Some people apply when they first notice significant decline, knowing the process can take time. You might also consider FMLA or reduced hours before fully stopping work. Just document everything if you do decide to apply.
Update: I'm halfway through filling out these forms and they're so detailed! The migraine questionnaire asks about aura symptoms, frequency, duration, and triggers. I'm being super detailed as everyone suggested. One thing I'm confused about - on the Adult Function Report, do I describe what I CAN do or what I CANNOT do? Some days I can do basic chores but other days I can barely get out of bed.
For the Adult Function Report, you should describe both what you can and cannot do, but always mention the limitations and variability. For example: "I can prepare simple meals 3-4 days per week when symptoms are manageable, but require assistance on other days due to fatigue and hand tremors. I cannot stand for more than 15 minutes at a time without needing to rest." With MS specifically, make sure to emphasize the unpredictable nature of your good and bad days. Social Security needs to understand that having some good days doesn't mean you can reliably work. Mention approximately how many days per month you would be unable to function in a work environment.
do your kids live with you full time? my friend has 50/50 custody and her ex gets half the kids benefits check which seems unfair since hes not disabled
Yes, they live with me full-time. Their father isn't in the picture at all. That's good to know though - I hadn't even considered custody issues affecting the benefits.
One more thing to be aware of - if you're also receiving SSI (Supplemental Security Income) in addition to SSDI, the children's auxiliary benefits could potentially affect your SSI amount. This is because children's benefits might count as deemed income in certain situations. However, if you're only receiving SSDI and not SSI, then this isn't a concern.
No, I'm only on SSDI, not SSI. My work history was solid enough that my SSDI payment is higher than the SSI limit. But that's still helpful info - this whole system is so complicated! I appreciate everyone helping me understand it better.
Don't forget about Medicare!!! If you claim at 63, you still won't get Medicare until 65. That trips up a lot of people I know who retired early. They think SS gives them health insurance right away but it DOESN'T.
Good point! We have coverage through my husband's employer for now, but I definitely need to factor in Medicare timing as well.
Have you considered what happens if you take your benefit now but your husband delays until 70? That maximizes his benefit (and potentially your survivor benefit if he passes away before you). For couples with one much higher earner, that's often the optimal strategy - lower earner claims early, higher earner waits as long as possible.
This is excellent advice. The 8% per year delayed retirement credits from FRA to age 70 for the higher earner provide excellent longevity insurance. And since survivor benefits can be up to 100% of what the deceased spouse was receiving, maximizing the higher earner's benefit protects the surviving spouse regardless of which one lives longer.
I heard there's something called "restricted application" where you can take JUST the spousal benefit and let your own continue to grow. Maybe your wife could do that????
Unfortunately, restricted applications are no longer available for anyone born after January 1, 1954 due to the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015. Now when you file for any benefit, you're deemed to have filed for all benefits you're eligible for. The only exceptions are for survivor benefits and certain divorced spouse scenarios.
pls update us after u talk to SSA! we r in similar spot but im the higher earner (wife). wanna know what happens!
Will do! I'm going to try to get an appointment at our local office to get this all in writing.
my sister got survivor benefits 15 years after her husband died so yes its possible. good luck getting anyone at SS to answer the phone tho lol
One final point that might help your brother: When he speaks with SSA, he should specifically ask them to run a computation for BOTH benefits - his own reduced retirement benefit AND what he'd receive as a survivor. The higher amount is what he'll get going forward. If the survivor benefit is higher, they'll essentially switch him to that benefit and discontinue his own retirement benefit.
Has anyone here dealt with what happens when one parent is retired and the other isn't yet? My husband is 64 and filing for his benefits next year, and we have a DAC son. I'm only 58. Can our son get DAC benefits on my husband's record now and then switch to mine later if my record would give him a higher payment? Or is he stuck with whichever parent files first?
Your son can initially receive DAC benefits on your husband's record when he files. Later, when you file for your retirement benefits, SSA will automatically determine which record provides the higher benefit amount for your son. If your record would provide a higher DAC benefit, they'll switch him to your record. This is one of the few cases where dual entitlement can work to maximize benefits. Your son is not permanently "stuck" with the first parent who files. SSA should handle this comparison automatically, but it never hurts to specifically ask them to check both records when you eventually file for your own benefits.
Thank you all for the incredibly helpful information! I just wanted to update that I spoke with a technical expert at SSA yesterday (finally!) and got some specific numbers. My PIA (full retirement age amount) would be about $2,650, so my reduced age-62 benefit will be around $1,850 as I mentioned. The family maximum in my case will be about $4,550. So with my benefit at $1,850 and two DAC benefits that would normally be $1,325 each (50% of my PIA), we'd exceed the family maximum. This means my benefit stays at $1,850, and my children will split the remaining $2,700 from the family maximum, giving them each about $1,350 per month. I've started gathering all the documentation, including medical records from when they were teenagers showing disability onset before 22. Both of my children already receive SSI, so we'll need to be careful about that transition as many of you mentioned. I really appreciate all your help navigating this complicated process!
So glad you got specific numbers! One important correction though - the math you described doesn't quite work. If the family max is $4,550 and your benefit is $1,850, then there's $2,700 remaining for your children. Split between two children, that's $1,350 each, not $675. Did the SSA representative mention their actual benefit amounts?
Geoff Richards
Maybe this is a stupid question but why not just apply for SSI if SSDI isnt gonna work out? At least youd get something AND medicaid which helps with all the cancer treatment costs. Thats what my cousin did when he couldnt get SSDI cuz he hadnt worked in years.
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Hazel Garcia
•That's not a stupid question at all! You're absolutely right that SSI might be an option if SSDI doesn't work out. However, there are some important differences: 1. SSI payments are generally lower than SSDI (maximum of $943/month for individuals in 2025) 2. SSI has strict asset limits of $2,000 for individuals 3. SSDI has no asset limits and payment amounts are based on your prior earnings 4. After 24 months on SSDI, you qualify for Medicare Ideally, OP should pursue both paths - try to establish an onset date for SSDI that falls before their Date Last Insured expired, while also continuing with the SSI application as a backup plan. That's likely why SSA is processing both.
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Shelby Bauman
Just wanted to add - make sure you tell SSA about ALL of your medical conditions, not just the cancer. If your disability claim goes back to 2012, they need to know everything that contributed to your inability to work back then. Many successful disability claims involve multiple conditions that combined make working impossible.
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Josef Tearle
•That's an excellent point. I have several chronic conditions besides the cancer that started back in 2012-2013. I'll make sure to document all of them and find my old medical records. Thank you!
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