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I've been researching Social Security survivor benefits and can't seem to find a clear answer to my specific situation. My financial advisor just showed me some projections that got me thinking about this. Here's our situation: - I'm planning to collect SS until age 80, currently receiving about $55,000 annually (started at age 70) - My wife is 74 and has been collecting spousal benefits (50% of my FRA benefit) since she was 67 - She qualified for spousal benefits because her own SS benefit was less than half of my FRA amount If I pass away first, would my wife automatically start receiving my full $55,000 yearly benefit as a survivor? Even though she's already 74 and has been collecting spousal benefits for years? Or is there some reduction because she's already receiving benefits? The SSA website mentions survivor benefits but I couldn't find this specific scenario explained clearly. Any insights from those who understand how this works?
I'm struggling with a Social Security planning dilemma because of family health history. My mother developed early-onset Alzheimer's at 67 and is now 75. She started collecting Social Security at 62 (about $1,450/month). Recently, I had to help get her qualified for Medicaid using the spend-down provision in our state. Here's what's keeping me up at night - if she had waited until her Full Retirement Age (67), her monthly benefit would have been around $2,050. I'm wondering if the higher benefit would have made the Medicaid spend-down process more difficult or impossible? This isn't just about Mom's situation. I'm trying to plan my own retirement strategy since Alzheimer's runs in our family (grandmother had it too). Should I take benefits early like Mom did, or wait for the higher amount? I'm 58 now and trying to make these tough decisions while I still can. Has anyone navigated both Social Security timing AND Medicaid planning with Alzheimer's in the family?
To directly answer your planning question: the optimal Social Security strategy when concerned about future cognitive decline often involves: 1. If you're married: Consider having the higher-earning spouse delay benefits until 70 while the lower-earning spouse claims earlier. This maximizes potential survivor benefits if one spouse requires long-term care. 2. For single individuals: The calculation depends on your specific state's Medicaid income limits and personal health indicators. If early-onset Alzheimer's (before 65-70) runs in your family, claiming earlier might make more sense. 3. Document preparation: Regardless of your claiming strategy, make sure you have a durable power of attorney, healthcare directive, and possibly a revocable trust in place BEFORE any cognitive decline begins. 4. Long-term care insurance: If you're 58 and concerned about Alzheimer's, explore long-term care insurance NOW while you're still insurable. Traditional policies or hybrid life insurance/LTC policies can provide significant protection and more care options than Medicaid alone.
This is incredibly helpful. I am married, and my husband will have a higher benefit than me, so your strategy #1 makes a lot of sense. I hadn't considered how survivor benefits play into this equation. We definitely need to update our legal documents too. I'll look into the LTC insurance options, though I've heard they can be quite expensive.
I want to share some perspective as someone who works in eldercare social services. Your situation highlights why advance planning is so crucial for families with genetic predispositions to dementia. One thing not mentioned yet: consider consulting with a Certified Financial Planner who has experience with Special Needs Planning. They can model different Social Security claiming strategies alongside potential Medicaid scenarios specific to Ohio's rules. Also, since you're 58 and proactively planning, you might benefit from exploring Ohio's PASSPORT waiver program. This Medicaid waiver allows people to receive long-term care services at home or in community settings rather than nursing facilities. Having this knowledge now could influence your Social Security timing decisions later. The fact that you're thinking about this while still cognitively able puts you ahead of many families who face these decisions in crisis mode. Document your preferences clearly - not just legally, but your actual wishes for care settings, financial priorities, etc. This will help your family make decisions that align with your values if the time comes. Keep asking these hard questions. The intersection of Social Security timing and long-term care planning is complex, but understanding it now gives you real power to make informed choices.
I'm starting my SS retirement benefits in February (turning 65 in March) and working part-time at my daughter's accounting firm. I understand there's an annual earnings limit of $23,400 since I'm below my FRA, and I'll definitely stay under that for the year. My question is about the monthly limit of $1,950. During tax season (Feb-April), I'll probably earn more than $1,950 per month, but then much less the rest of the year, keeping my annual total well under the yearly limit. Since I'm not starting benefits in January, do I need to worry about exceeding the monthly limit in some months? Will SSA penalize me for those higher-earning months even if my yearly total is fine? I really don't want to turn down extra hours during busy season if I don't have to!
Did u check with ur employer? my cousin got messed up cuz her company reported her earnings differently than she thought and she ended up going over the limit without realizing it. might wanna double check how they'll report ur income during tax season
I work as a benefits counselor and see this confusion all the time. The key thing to understand is that SSA applies different tests depending on your situation. Since you're starting benefits in February but continuing to work throughout 2025, you'll be subject to the annual earnings test ($23,400 limit) rather than the monthly test. The monthly test is specifically for people who have a true "retirement" mid-year where they stop working entirely. However, given the conflicting experiences shared here (like Oliver's situation), I'd strongly recommend getting written confirmation from SSA about your specific work pattern. When you call, be very clear that you're working part-time throughout the entire year with seasonal fluctuations, not retiring mid-year. Document the conversation with the representative's name and date. Also, make sure your daughter's firm reports your earnings correctly and consistently. Since it's a family business, SSA might scrutinize the arrangement more closely, so having everything properly documented will protect you both.
Has anyone heard when the COLA notification letters are supposed to be mailed this year? Last year I got mine around the end of November, but I'm wondering if the timeline is different for 2025. My neighbor mentioned something about them being delayed this year due to some system updates at SSA. I'm anxious to see what the increase will be since my Medicare premium went up more than expected. Anyone received theirs already or have insider info about when they're coming?
For anyone wondering about the 2025 COLA letters, here's the official timeline according to the SSA website: 1. COLA percentage announcement: October 10, 2024 (already happened - 2.5%) 2. MySocialSecurity online accounts will update: Early December 2024 3. COLA notices mailing: December 5-20, 2024 4. First increased payment: January 2025 If you need your new benefit amount sooner for budgeting purposes, I'd recommend setting up a MySocialSecurity account if you haven't already. The information typically appears there 1-2 weeks before physical letters arrive.
As someone new to Social Security, I'm finding this conversation really helpful! I just started receiving benefits last month and had no idea about COLA letters or how the process works. Reading through everyone's experiences gives me a much better understanding of what to expect. I'll definitely set up my MySocialSecurity account before December so I can check online first. Thanks to everyone sharing their knowledge and timelines - it's exactly what newcomers like me need to know!
I have a complicated situation with my wife's potential benefits and need advice from someone who really understands SS rules. I'm 76 and started collecting my Social Security at age 70 (about $4,250/month). My wife is much younger - she just turned 60 last month. We're trying to plan ahead for her retirement and also (not to be morbid) for when I'm no longer here. Here's what I understand so far: My wife plans to file for her own retirement benefits when she turns 62. Her PIA is only going to be around $1,800 based on her work history. When she files at 62, I believe she might be eligible for spousal benefits since half of my benefit would be higher than her reduced benefit at 62. What I'm really confused about is how this affects survivor benefits. If I pass away before she reaches her full retirement age (67), I was told she should continue taking her own benefit until she reaches her FRA to maximize her survivor benefit (which would be my full benefit amount at time of death). My questions: 1) Will taking the spousal benefit when she's 62 (while I'm alive) somehow prevent her from waiting until her FRA to claim the maximum survivor benefit if I die? 2) Is there any strategy that would allow her to maximize what she'd receive as a widow? I spoke with an SSA agent a few months ago, but they couldn't give me a clear answer. I want to avoid any mistakes that might permanently reduce what she could get. Thanks for any insights!
The SSA website is so confusing about all this!! I spent HOURS trying to figure it out and still got confused. Has anyone called and gotten a straight answer? My local office never answers the phone...
I recommend getting an appointment for a benefits review rather than trying to get complex questions answered over the phone. You can request a phone appointment on ssa.gov or call the national number to schedule one. Ask specifically for someone who specializes in retirement and survivor planning. Come prepared with written questions and take detailed notes. If something doesn't make sense, ask them to explain it differently. You have the right to understand your benefits!
Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who went through this exact scenario. My husband was 12 years older than me and we faced the same planning challenges. One thing that really helped us was creating a spreadsheet to model different scenarios - what would happen if I took benefits at 62 vs waiting, what the survivor benefits would look like at different ages, etc. The numbers really helped clarify that waiting until FRA for survivor benefits was worth it financially. Also, don't forget that survivor benefits include any delayed retirement credits your husband earned by waiting until 70 to claim. So her potential survivor benefit would be your full $4,250, not just your PIA. That's a significant advantage of your strategy to delay claiming until 70. One last tip: consider getting a second opinion from a fee-only financial advisor who specializes in Social Security planning. The $300-500 consultation fee was worth it for us to have confidence we were making the right choices. Sometimes having an expert run the numbers and confirm your strategy is worth the peace of mind.
Toot-n-Mighty
One additional point that might be relevant for your situation: If your wife reports your death to SSA within the same month that you pass away, they may withhold your final monthly payment. However, if she reports it in the month after your death, your final payment is generally allowed to remain. This can make a difference of an entire month's benefit amount. The rules around this can be complex, so it's something to discuss with SSA when the time comes.
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Kirsuktow DarkBlade
AuthorI had no idea about this timing issue for reporting. That's really valuable information - could make a difference of over $4,000 in our case. Thank you for pointing this out.
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Emma Wilson
Just wanted to add something important that I learned when helping my aunt navigate this situation last year - make sure your wife keeps detailed records of all her communications with SSA regarding the survivor benefits application. The process can sometimes take a few months to complete, and having documentation of what was submitted and when can be really helpful if there are any delays or issues. Also, if she's comfortable with technology, she can check the status of her application online through her my Social Security account, which saved my aunt from making multiple phone calls during the waiting period.
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