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Myles Regis

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Just went through this exact scenario two months ago! We consolidated about $58,000 from my husband's account to mine for our down payment. Zero tax issues - you're definitely overthinking it. The key thing is timing like others mentioned. Our bank (Wells Fargo) had a 3-business-day hold on the transferred funds before they'd issue a cashier's check for the full amount. We learned this the hard way when we tried to get the check the day after the transfer. What saved us was that our loan officer was familiar with this situation and suggested we could get a "bank wire" directly from my husband's account to the title company instead of doing the transfer/cashier's check route. Cost about $25 more but eliminated the hold period entirely. Might be worth asking your lender if they accept wires directly from multiple accounts - could save you the whole consolidation headache! Either way, no tax implications for moving money between spouses. The IRS doesn't care about your banking logistics, just your actual income sources.

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That's a great point about the wire transfer option! I didn't even think about that possibility. Do most title companies accept multiple wires from different accounts, or do they prefer everything coming from one source? We're getting ready to close on our first home next month and this could save us a lot of hassle with the bank hold periods.

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Amina Bah

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Great question! As someone who just went through this process six months ago, I can confirm you're absolutely overthinking it. My wife and I did exactly what you're describing - consolidated about $91,000 from both our accounts into one for a single cashier's check. The IRS has zero interest in temporary fund movements between spouses for legitimate purposes like home purchases. What they care about is actual income that needs to be reported - wages, investment gains, business profits, etc. Moving already-taxed money around your own accounts doesn't create any new taxable events. A couple of practical tips from our experience: 1) Give your bank a heads up about the large transaction - we called ahead and they noted our account to expect the deposit/withdrawal 2) Ask about fund availability policies upfront - our bank required the money to sit for 2 business days before issuing a cashier's check for the full amount 3) Keep a simple paper trail (transfer confirmations, etc.) just for your own records, though it's not required The consolidation approach definitely worked well for us and saved on fees. Your closing attorney or loan officer can also confirm this is totally routine - they see it all the time. Don't let tax anxiety complicate what should be an exciting milestone! Congrats on the home purchase.

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Logan Chiang

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who just went through it! I'm curious about the paper trail you mentioned - did you just keep the bank transfer receipts, or did you document anything specific about the purpose of the consolidation? I tend to be overly cautious with financial records, so I'm wondering what level of documentation is actually useful versus overkill for something like this.

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Paolo Longo

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I went through this exact situation about 6 months ago. The key thing to understand is that you need to file an original 1040, not an amended return. The IRS substitute return isn't considered your "original" return - it's just a placeholder they created to assess taxes. When you file your actual return, make sure to attach a cover letter explaining that you're filing to replace an IRS substitute return. Include the tax year and mention any notice numbers you received. This helps the processing center handle it correctly. Also, be prepared for a longer processing time than normal. In my case, it took about 12 weeks for them to process my return and adjust my account. The good news is that once processed, I got a significant refund because the substitute return didn't include any of my deductions or credits. One tip: if you owe money on the substitute return and are worried about collection actions, definitely call the IRS (or use one of those services mentioned above) to request a hold on collections while your original return is being processed.

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This is really helpful, thank you for sharing your experience! A couple follow-up questions if you don't mind - when you say "longer processing time," did you get any acknowledgment from the IRS that they received your return during those 12 weeks? And did you have to deal with any notices or collection letters during that processing period, or did the hold you mentioned prevent all of that? I'm in a similar situation and trying to figure out what to expect timeline-wise. Also wondering if it's worth paying for certified mail or if regular mail is sufficient for this type of submission.

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I'm dealing with a substitute return situation right now too, and this thread has been incredibly helpful! One thing I wanted to add based on my research - if you're filing your original return to replace the substitute return, make sure you're also aware of any statutory notice periods that might be running. The IRS typically sends a CP3219 Notice of Deficiency (90-day letter) after they complete the substitute return assessment. If you receive one of these, you have 90 days to either file a petition with Tax Court OR file your original return. Don't let that 90-day window close because once it does, the assessment becomes final and much harder to challenge. I'm currently gathering all my documents to file my original return, and I'm planning to include copies of everything - all income statements, deduction receipts, and a detailed cover letter explaining the situation. Better to over-document than under-document in these cases. Also worth noting that if your original return shows you owe less than the substitute return (which is likely since they don't include deductions), any payments you already made toward the substitute return assessment will be credited toward your actual tax liability.

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Kai Rivera

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This is such valuable information about the 90-day notice period! I had no idea that timeline was so critical. Quick question - if someone receives that CP3219 notice, is it better to file the original return immediately or should they still take time to gather all their documentation properly? I'm wondering if there's a risk of filing an incomplete return just to beat the deadline versus taking more time to do it right but potentially missing the window. Also, when you mention that payments already made get credited - does that happen automatically once the original return is processed, or do you need to specifically request that credit be applied?

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Paolo Rizzo

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Definitely file the 1099-C! I didn't do this with a former tenant and regretted it. I forgave about $3,000 in back rent, didn't file the form, and then couldn't claim the loss properly on my taxes. My accountant said without the 1099-C documentation, the deduction looked questionable.

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Amina Sy

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Couldn't you have just shown your ledger of unpaid rent as evidence? I've written off unpaid rent before without filing a 1099-C and never had issues. Just documented it in my bookkeeping.

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who's dealt with this multiple times. You absolutely should file the 1099-C - it protects you and creates a clear paper trail for the IRS. I've had three situations where tenants left owing significant rent, and filing the 1099-C each time made my tax filings much cleaner. A few practical tips: Make sure you have the tenant's correct SSN from their original rental application before filing. If you don't have it, you'll need to make a reasonable effort to obtain it. Also, keep copies of all your documentation - the lease, payment records, eviction notices, etc. The IRS may want to see proof that the debt was legitimate and that you actually made the decision to cancel it. One thing that caught me off guard the first time - you need to send a copy of the 1099-C to the tenant as well as the IRS. Don't just file it and forget about it. The tenant needs to receive their copy by January 31st too.

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Savannah Vin

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This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now - tenant left owing $2,800 in rent. One question about getting their SSN: what counts as "reasonable effort" if I can't reach them? I have their SSN from the original application, but what if other landlords don't? Can you still file the 1099-C without it, or does that make the whole form invalid? Also, do you know if there are any penalties for filing late? I'm worried I might miss the January 31st deadline since I'm just learning about all this now.

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Jibriel Kohn

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As a tax preparer who's dealt with countless multi-property situations, I want to emphasize something that's been touched on but bears repeating: the IRS doesn't care what your mortgage lender calls your property - they have their own completely separate criteria for determining primary residence. I've seen clients get into serious trouble by assuming mortgage qualification rules and tax rules are the same. One client spent three years fighting an audit because they claimed capital gains exclusion on a "primary residence" mortgage that the IRS determined was actually their second home based on where their family lived and where they filed taxes from. The key test the IRS uses is really about where your "life" is centered - family, voting registration, medical care, banking relationships, etc. Your work schedule alone won't override these factors. Given that your family stays at the original home, you'd have an uphill battle proving the work property is your primary residence, even if you spend equal time at both locations. Before making any property purchase, I'd strongly recommend getting a written opinion from a qualified tax professional about your specific situation. The consultation fee will be much less expensive than dealing with potential audit issues or unexpected capital gains bills later. Don't let mortgage brokers' enthusiasm about loan approval cloud the very different tax reality you'd be facing.

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GalaxyGlider

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@1d2c1cbbc7b8 This is exactly the kind of professional perspective that ties everything together! As someone new to understanding these tax rules, it's really helpful to hear from someone who's actually seen these situations play out in audits. Your point about the IRS having completely separate criteria from mortgage lenders really drives home how misleading the initial advice from those mortgage brokers was. It sounds like they were either uninformed about the tax implications or just focused on making the sale without considering the client's full financial picture. The example of your client fighting a three-year audit battle is terrifying - that's exactly the kind of situation everyone in this thread has been warning about. It really reinforces that getting a written opinion upfront is worth every penny compared to the potential costs of getting it wrong. I'm curious about the written opinion process - when you say "qualified tax professional," are there specific credentials or certifications someone should look for when dealing with these complex residency determinations? And typically, how detailed do those written opinions need to be to provide real protection if the IRS later questions the primary residence designation? The more I learn about this topic, the more I appreciate how nuanced and fact-specific these determinations really are. Thank you for sharing your real-world experience with these situations!

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Dmitry Volkov

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Reading through this entire discussion has been incredibly educational - thank you all for the detailed breakdown of these complex tax rules! As someone who's been considering a similar arrangement for work purposes, this thread has saved me from what could have been a very costly misunderstanding. The distinction between mortgage qualification and IRS tax rules is so important and clearly something that mortgage brokers either don't understand or don't communicate properly. It's alarming how easily someone could make a major financial decision based on incomplete information. What strikes me most is how the "facts and circumstances" test really looks at your entire life situation, not just where you spend your time. The examples about family location, school enrollment, voting registration, and banking relationships show that the IRS takes a holistic view that goes way beyond simple time tracking. For anyone else reading this who might be in a similar situation, it seems like the key takeaways are: 1) Don't assume mortgage rules equal tax rules, 2) Document everything meticulously if you're in any kind of split-residence situation, 3) Get professional tax advice BEFORE making major property decisions, and 4) Consider all the hidden costs and complexities of maintaining multiple properties. The personal stories shared here about audit battles and unexpected tax bills really drive home why it's worth investing in proper professional guidance upfront rather than trying to figure it out after the fact.

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Isabel Vega

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Quick question - does anyone know if the address is different if you're filing 843 for something OTHER than Social Security overpayment? I need to submit one for a penalty abatement request.

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Yes, the address can differ based on the reason for filing Form 843. For penalty abatement requests, you should send it to the same IRS service center where you'd file your regular tax return. If you've already submitted your return, send it to the same service center where you filed. If you haven't filed yet, use the address listed in your tax return instructions based on your state. The IRS has different service centers for different regions of the country.

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I went through this exact same situation last year with overpaid Social Security taxes from two jobs. The Kansas City address that Muhammad mentioned is correct for New Jersey. One thing I wish someone had told me - make sure to calculate your overpayment carefully before submitting. The Social Security wage base for 2024 was $160,200, so if your combined wages from both employers exceeded that amount, you likely overpaid. The excess Social Security tax rate is 6.2%, so multiply the amount over the wage base by 0.062 to get your refund amount. Also, don't forget to attach a statement explaining why you believe you overpaid - the IRS processes these much faster when they have a clear explanation. I got my refund in about 10 weeks, which was faster than I expected. Good luck!

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Keisha Taylor

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm definitely in the overpayment situation since my combined wages were around $175,000 between the two jobs. Quick math question - when you say multiply the excess by 0.062, do I use the full amount over $160,200 or do I need to account for the fact that each employer was withholding Social Security tax separately? I want to make sure I'm calculating this correctly before I submit the form.

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