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Danielle Mays

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I went through this exact situation two years ago when I was trying to balance maximizing my 401k contributions with maintaining eligibility for various tax credits. Here's what I learned: The key distinction is between "earned income" and "adjusted gross income" (AGI). Traditional 401k contributions reduce your AGI but NOT your earned income for tax credit purposes like the Child and Dependent Care Credit. Your earned income is essentially your gross compensation before any pre-tax deductions. So if you make $60,000 and contribute $10,000 to a traditional 401k, your earned income is still $60,000 for tax credit calculations, even though your AGI drops to $50,000. This means you can absolutely maximize your 401k contributions to get that employer match without worrying about losing your child care credit eligibility. The IRS specifically defines earned income as compensation received for personal services, regardless of where that money goes afterward. I'd recommend reviewing Form 2441 instructions if you want to see the official language, but the consensus here is correct - 401k contributions don't affect earned income for tax credits.

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Yuki Watanabe

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This is such a helpful breakdown! I'm new to understanding how all these different income calculations work for tax purposes. Just to make sure I understand correctly - when you say "earned income" stays at $60k in your example, is that figure documented anywhere specific on tax forms, or is it something the IRS calculates internally when determining credit eligibility? I want to make sure I can verify this on my own returns.

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James Heil

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I give this site credit for being the source of AI search conclusions and again in this case the result is incorrect.ย  In this case โ€˜The site confirmed that traditional 401(k) contributions don't affect earned income calculations for EITC purposes either.โ€™ and other citations.ย  See 1040 instructions for EITC, โ€˜Earned Incomeโ€™ calculated as follows: 1) Amount from Form 1040 line 1z (reduced by 401K contributions) - Medicaid waiver payments + nontaxable combat pay.ย  Thatโ€™s it!ย  Please tell me what I'm missing. 401K contributions are NOT added back in.

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James Heil

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@James Heil For specific line instructions, pull up the 2025 1040 Instructions, go to page 42/126, Step 5 Earned 'Income for' above 3 components. Importantly, Box 1 and (line 1z also) excludes Pre-tax health benefits and Employee HSA contributions.

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James Heil

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@James Heil For specific line instructions, pull up the 2025 1040 Instructions, go to page 42/126, Step 5 Earned 'Income for' above 3 components. Importantly, Box 1 and (line 1z also) excludes Pre-tax health benefits and Employee HSA contributions. Also for Child and Dependent Care Expenses, see Instructions for Form 2441, lines 4&5, no allowance/add backs for 401 k(contributions) or pre-tax health benefits only line 1z.

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I totally understand your confusion! I went through something similar last year and was completely lost trying to decode my transcript. That -$1,910.00 with code 291 is actually GREAT news for you! ๐ŸŽ‰ The negative sign means it's money coming TO you, not something you owe. I know it seems backwards but that's how the IRS does their accounting on transcripts. Code 291 "Reduced or removed prior tax assessed" means they reviewed your return (likely because of your amended return from October) and determined you were overcharged on taxes originally. So they're correcting it in your favor! The refund freeze from March has probably been holding things up, but once that releases you should see an 846 code appear - that's when they actually cut the check. Based on what everyone else has shared here, I'd definitely recommend checking your transcript every Friday morning since that's when they typically update. From my experience, it took about 6 weeks from seeing the 291 to getting the 846 refund code, then about 10 days for the money to actually hit my account. You're definitely getting that $1,910 - just gotta wait for the IRS to work through their backlog! The waiting is stressful but you're in good shape. Keep us posted! ๐Ÿ’ฐ

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Amara Nnamani

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I've been dealing with similar IRS transcript confusion and this thread has been incredibly helpful! That -$1,910.00 with code 291 is definitely money coming TO you - the negative sign means it's a credit to your account, not a debt. Code 291 "Reduced or removed prior tax assessed" basically means the IRS reviewed your return (probably triggered by your October amended return) and found they overcharged you originally, so they're giving you that money back! The refund freeze from March is likely what's been holding everything up, but once that clears you should see an 846 code appear on your transcript - that's the actual refund code. Based on everyone's experiences here, I'd definitely start checking your transcript every Friday morning since that's when they typically post updates. From what I've read, it usually takes 4-6 weeks from seeing the 291 to getting the 846, then another week or two for the actual money. You're definitely getting that $1,910 - just gotta be patient with the IRS processing! The waiting is nerve-wracking but you're in great shape. Keep checking and let us know when you see that 846 code! ๐Ÿ’ฐ

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Takeisha Harden

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@Amara Nnamani hey can you help me understand my transcript and when should I expect 846 code also why is negative amount up top different only saying -681 but my 291 code is showing -10,106 does that mean refund will be 10,706 ? Is the -600 just not an updated amount .? Help im just a little confused

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Kurtz Levine

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Itโ€™s been 3 weeks I verified my identity over the phone and I havenโ€™t received a ddd . The progression went from being processed to being reviewed.

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Kurtz Levine

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What does cp05 notice means

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Working for family - Am I an independent contractor/self employed or an employee for tax purposes?

I just started a job with my brother's company, but I'm pretty clueless about tax stuff. I'm concerned about two things: not getting financially screwed and staying on the right side of the IRS. The issue came up when I asked my brother about taxes, and he mentioned he'd be giving me a 1099. This triggered some alarm bells because I'd recently been looking into retirement accounts and remembered reading about 1099s being for independent contractors/self-employed people. From what I understand, the IRS defines an independent contractor as someone who controls their own hours, brings their own tools, and decides how to complete their work. Here's my situation: while my brother is somewhat flexible with my schedule, I work the same hours every day (sometimes more if I can). He provides all the tools I need, and he assigns all my tasks. This doesn't seem to match the independent contractor definition. I don't receive any benefits, which might be consistent with contractor status, but everything else seems like I'm an employee. I'm worried because I know 1099 contractors pay significantly more in taxes than regular employees. I'm only working part-time right now, so I'm not making much money. The whole quarterly tax payment system for 1099 workers confuses me too. I don't want problems with the IRS or end up paying more taxes than I should, but I'm not sure how to handle this since he's family. Can anyone clarify where I actually fall tax-wise?

Bruno Simmons

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You're absolutely right to be concerned about this classification! Based on everything you've described - your brother setting your schedule, providing all the tools, and directing your work - you're clearly an employee, not an independent contractor. The financial impact is significant. As a misclassified 1099 contractor, you'd pay the full 15.3% self-employment tax (covering both employer and employee portions of Social Security/Medicare) plus regular income tax. As a proper W-2 employee, your brother would pay half of that burden (7.65%), saving you real money especially on part-time income. I'd suggest approaching this conversation soon, focusing on protecting both of you rather than pointing out what's wrong. Many family business owners misclassify workers without understanding the rules or consequences. The IRS can impose serious penalties on businesses for misclassification - back taxes, interest, and substantial fines. Try framing it as "I want to make sure we're both following the rules correctly" rather than being accusatory. You could reference IRS Publication 15-A which explains the three-factor test for worker classification (behavioral control, financial control, and relationship type). Your situation clearly fits the employee category on all three factors. Since you're family, he'll probably want to do right by you once he understands that proper classification protects his business from IRS penalties while saving you from overpaying taxes and dealing with quarterly payments. Better to sort this out now than face problems later!

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Ethan Taylor

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This is such great advice! I really appreciate how you broke down the three-factor test - behavioral control, financial control, and relationship type. It's clear that my brother controls all three aspects of my work situation, so there's really no question about my proper classification. The financial difference you mentioned (7.65% vs 15.3%) is huge when you're only working part-time like I am. Plus, I'm honestly intimidated by the whole quarterly payment system for 1099 workers - having taxes automatically withheld as a W-2 employee would be so much simpler. I love your suggestion about referencing IRS Publication 15-A when I talk to my brother. Having official documentation should help keep the conversation objective and show that this isn't just my opinion, but actual IRS guidelines. The framing of "making sure we're both following the rules correctly" is perfect - it positions this as protecting both of us rather than me challenging him. I'm definitely going to have this conversation this week before we get too far into the work arrangement. Better to get it sorted out now than deal with tax complications later!

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Aaron

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My father been doing this to me for years. But include extra wages charges clients for me that I dont see. Like least equally 10k a year then I have to pay 8k this past yr so was more than half my savings its almost like im paying to work. I've left multiple times but they always ask for help again say it'll be different or threaten to not be able to go to his funeral lol getting to the point that thats fine with me and sadly waisted so much time could have been in another field of work and im so easily discarded. Dont let it happen to you.

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