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I'm new to this community but wanted to chime in as someone who recently went through a similar confusing situation with the IRS. Like others have mentioned, getting that exact notice number is going to be key to figuring out what's really going on here. From what I've learned lurking in tax forums, the IRS computer systems sometimes flag accounts for weird reasons that don't always make sense on the surface. If you're married filing jointly and both signed the return, you definitely shouldn't need to give each other power of attorney - that's not how joint filing works at all. One thing I noticed in this thread is that there might be some confusion about what type of notice you actually received. The CP2000 that was mentioned by someone else is completely different from a Form 2848 request. Before trying any of the services people have recommended (which might be helpful, but seem like overkill if this is just a system glitch), I'd definitely start with calling the IRS directly with that notice number in hand. Hope you get it sorted out quickly - these kinds of notices are so stressful even when they turn out to be nothing!
Welcome to the community! Your point about the IRS computer systems flagging accounts for seemingly random reasons really resonates with me. I've been following this thread closely and it's clear there's been some confusion about what type of notice Lucas actually received. You're absolutely right that getting the specific notice number is crucial before anyone can provide targeted advice. The difference between a CP2000 (income discrepancy) and an actual Form 2848 request (power of attorney) is huge, and the solutions would be completely different. I also appreciate your balanced take on the third-party services mentioned in this thread. While they might have their place, starting with a direct call to the IRS makes the most sense for what could very well be a simple computer error. Plus, if it is just a system glitch, the IRS can probably clear it up in one phone call once they see that you're legitimately married and filed jointly. @Lucas Adams, hoping you can share that notice number soon so everyone can give you more specific guidance! These tax situations always seem scarier than they actually are.
As someone new to dealing with IRS notices, I've been following this thread with great interest! It's really helpful to see how experienced community members and tax professionals break down these confusing situations. What strikes me most is how important it seems to be to get that exact notice number before jumping to conclusions about what the IRS actually wants. The confusion between CP2000 notices and Form 2848 requests in this thread really illustrates how easy it is to misinterpret these government letters when you're not familiar with the different types. I'm also impressed by the range of solutions people have shared - from calling the IRS directly (which seems like the most logical first step) to various third-party services that can help navigate the phone system or analyze documents. It's good to know these options exist, even if going straight to the source is probably the best starting point. @Lucas Adams - I hope you're able to get this sorted out quickly! Please keep us updated on what the notice number actually says and how it gets resolved. These kinds of real-world examples are so valuable for those of us who might face similar situations in the future.
I'm also new here and have been learning so much from this discussion! As someone who's never dealt with IRS notices before, this thread has been incredibly educational about the importance of understanding exactly what type of notice you're dealing with. What I find most reassuring is seeing how many different people have faced similar confusing situations and worked through them successfully. It really shows that these scary-looking government letters often turn out to be much more manageable than they initially appear. The point about getting the specific notice number before trying any solutions really makes sense - it seems like that one piece of information could save a lot of time and potentially unnecessary stress. I'm definitely bookmarking this thread as a reference in case I ever face something similar! @Lucas Adams - echoing what others have said, really hoping you can share that notice number when you get a chance. This whole discussion has been so helpful for understanding how to approach these types of IRS issues!
I went through this exact situation and learned the hard way that insolvency at the time of forgiveness is super important! If your dad's liabilities exceeded his assets at the time the debt was forgiven, he might qualify to exclude some or all of the forgiven debt from income. Form 982 is what you'd use to claim this exclusion. This form has to be filed with the tax return, so even if your dad normally doesn't file, he might need to if he wants to claim insolvency.
The insolvency exclusion saved me thousands when I had a car repo last year! But filling out that Form 982 was a nightmare without professional help.
This is a really complex situation, but you're asking the right questions! Since your dad is on permanent disability and typically doesn't file taxes, the key thing to understand is that any tax implications from the repossession would follow the legal ownership of the loan - which is in his name. One important point that hasn't been fully addressed: even if your dad receives a 1099-C, he may not need to file a return if his total income (including the forgiven debt) still falls below the filing threshold for his age and filing status. For 2023, if he's under 65 and his gross income is less than $13,850 (or $15,700 if 65 or older), he generally wouldn't need to file. However, if the forgiven debt amount is large enough to push him over the filing threshold, he would need to file - but that's where the insolvency exclusion on Form 982 could come into play if his debts exceeded his assets at the time of forgiveness. The fact that you used the car for commuting doesn't create any tax obligations for you, as others have correctly pointed out. Personal vehicles used for regular commuting aren't considered business assets, even if they're essential for getting to work. I'd recommend documenting your dad's financial situation as of the repossession date (assets vs. liabilities) just in case a 1099-C does arrive and you need to evaluate insolvency options.
This is really helpful advice about documenting the financial situation! I'm curious though - when you say "documenting your dad's financial situation as of the repossession date," do you mean the date the car was physically taken, or the date when the lender officially processed the forgiveness of any remaining debt? I'm asking because there could be months between those two events, and I imagine the asset/liability calculation could be different depending on which date matters for the insolvency test.
Called IRS today actually - they said cycle codes can vary based on workload distribution. Doesnt necessarily follow previous years.
you actually got through to a human?! what sorcery is this? š
Been dealing with this exact same confusion! I was cycle 03 last year and got my refund in 21 days, but the year before I was 05 and it took 6 weeks. From what I've learned lurking here, the cycle codes really are pretty random year to year - they're more about IRS processing capacity than anything predictable about your specific situation. That said, if you want to actually understand what's happening with your transcript instead of just guessing, I'd definitely check out some of the AI tools people are mentioning. Way less stressful than trying to decode all these cryptic codes yourself! š¤
Ughhh I'm still waiting for mine and it's February 12th! This is sooo annoying because my tax guy needs all my docs by the 20th or he won't guarantee filing before April. Anyone else in the same boat? I had like 200+ trades last year so maybe that's why?
I had over 300 trades and got mine yesterday. Check if you did any weird stuff like options or penny stocks. My buddy trades options and hasn't gotten his forms yet, while I mostly stuck to regular stocks and ETFs.
Thanks for the info. I did mess around with some options trading last summer, so maybe that's what's causing the delay. Guess I'll just have to tell my tax guy to wait. So frustrating!
Still waiting on mine too! I've been checking the app every day like it's going to magically appear. I did a mix of stocks and crypto trades throughout 2024, probably around 150 transactions total. It's so frustrating because I usually file my taxes in early February to get my refund ASAP, but this year I'm stuck waiting on Robinhood. Has anyone tried downloading their transaction history and just calculating everything manually? I'm tempted to do that rather than wait until the 15th, but I'm worried I'll mess something up with the cost basis calculations or miss some dividend that got reinvested automatically.
I'm in the exact same situation! Also waiting on Robinhood with around 100 trades last year including some crypto. I actually tried calculating everything manually using my transaction history, but it got really complicated fast - especially with the crypto transactions and figuring out which lots were sold for the cost basis calculations. I ended up giving up on the manual approach because I was worried about making errors that could trigger an audit later. The wash sale rules alone are confusing enough without trying to track everything across different assets. I figure it's better to wait for the official forms even if it means filing later than usual. At least we know they have to get them to us by the 15th!
Dylan Campbell
This is incredibly helpful information! As someone who just filed my first return as a freelancer, I had no idea about the complexity behind the scenes. I was getting worried because my refund is scheduled for direct deposit next week and I kept reading horror stories about delays. Your mention of Schedule C filers experiencing different processing patterns is particularly relevant - is there something specific about self-employment returns that affects the deposit timeline? Also, I'm curious about the trace request you mentioned under Regulation 6011(f) - is this something any taxpayer can initiate, or do you need to meet certain criteria first? Thanks for breaking down all the publication references too - it's reassuring to know there are actual guidelines governing this process, even if the visibility isn't perfect.
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Chris Elmeda
ā¢Welcome to the world of self-employment taxes! As a fellow newcomer who just went through this process, I can share what I learned. Schedule C filers often see slightly different processing patterns because the IRS does additional verification on business income/expense claims - it's not necessarily slower, just has more checkpoints. For the trace request under Regulation 6011(f), you can typically initiate one if your refund hasn't arrived within the timeframe shown on Where's My Refund (usually 21 days from accepted e-file date). You don't need special criteria, just call the IRS taxpayer assistance line and explain the situation. One tip I wish I'd known: set up text alerts with your bank specifically for ACH deposits if they offer it - it saved me from obsessively checking my account every hour! The whole process is more complex than it needs to be, but @c86e83e24618's detailed breakdown really helped me understand what's happening behind the scenes.
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Makayla Shoemaker
This is such a valuable breakdown of the direct deposit process! As someone who's been through multiple refund cycles, I can definitely relate to that anxiety when systems show conflicting information. What's particularly interesting is your observation about the trace request potentially triggering faster processing - I've heard similar anecdotal reports but never understood if there was a legitimate connection or just coincidental timing. The reference to IRS Circular E regarding ACH visibility is spot on - most people don't realize that banks receive the funds hours before they're visible to account holders or even customer service reps. It's frustrating that in 2024 we still have these communication gaps between Treasury, financial institutions, and tax software platforms. Thanks for sharing the specific publication references too - it's helpful to have the actual regulatory framework to understand what should happen versus what we experience in practice. Did you end up getting any explanation from your bank about why the deposit wasn't initially visible to their customer service team?
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