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Nia Jackson

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Ughhh I'm still waiting for mine and it's February 12th! This is sooo annoying because my tax guy needs all my docs by the 20th or he won't guarantee filing before April. Anyone else in the same boat? I had like 200+ trades last year so maybe that's why?

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NebulaNova

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I had over 300 trades and got mine yesterday. Check if you did any weird stuff like options or penny stocks. My buddy trades options and hasn't gotten his forms yet, while I mostly stuck to regular stocks and ETFs.

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Nia Jackson

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Thanks for the info. I did mess around with some options trading last summer, so maybe that's what's causing the delay. Guess I'll just have to tell my tax guy to wait. So frustrating!

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NebulaNomad

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Still waiting on mine too! I've been checking the app every day like it's going to magically appear. I did a mix of stocks and crypto trades throughout 2024, probably around 150 transactions total. It's so frustrating because I usually file my taxes in early February to get my refund ASAP, but this year I'm stuck waiting on Robinhood. Has anyone tried downloading their transaction history and just calculating everything manually? I'm tempted to do that rather than wait until the 15th, but I'm worried I'll mess something up with the cost basis calculations or miss some dividend that got reinvested automatically.

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Oliver Wagner

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I'm in the exact same situation! Also waiting on Robinhood with around 100 trades last year including some crypto. I actually tried calculating everything manually using my transaction history, but it got really complicated fast - especially with the crypto transactions and figuring out which lots were sold for the cost basis calculations. I ended up giving up on the manual approach because I was worried about making errors that could trigger an audit later. The wash sale rules alone are confusing enough without trying to track everything across different assets. I figure it's better to wait for the official forms even if it means filing later than usual. At least we know they have to get them to us by the 15th!

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Omar Hassan

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Has anyone tried the IRS Business Services Online (BSO) portal? Their website says small businesses can file up to 25 1099s for free directly through that system. Seems like it might be the most straightforward option if you only have a few contractors.

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Chloe Robinson

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I tried using the BSO last year for my 5 contractors and it worked but the interface is terrible. You have to enter everything manually one by one and there's no way to save your progress and come back later. Take screenshots of every page because if you make a mistake it's a nightmare to correct.

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Paolo Ricci

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I was in the exact same situation last year with my small consulting business - needed to file 1099-NECs for just 4 contractors and was completely overwhelmed by all the red ink requirements and disclaimers. After reading through all these suggestions, I ended up using the IRS Business Services Online portal that Omar mentioned, and despite Chloe's warning about the interface, it actually worked fine for me. Yes, the BSO interface is a bit clunky and you do have to enter everything manually, but for just a few contractors it's really not that bad. The key is having all your contractor information organized beforehand - their W-9 forms with SSNs/EINs, addresses, and total payments. I made sure to double-check everything before submitting because correcting errors later is indeed a pain. The whole process took me about 45 minutes for 4 forms, and it's completely free. You get immediate confirmation when the forms are accepted, which gave me peace of mind that I met the deadline. For anyone with just a handful of contractors, I'd recommend trying the BSO first before paying for a service - you can always fall back on the paid options if you run into issues.

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StellarSurfer

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Thanks for sharing your experience with the BSO portal! As someone who's been putting off dealing with my 1099-NECs, it's really helpful to hear that it actually worked smoothly for someone. I have 3 contractors to report and have been dreading the whole process, but 45 minutes doesn't sound too bad at all. Did you need to create any special accounts or register beforehand, or can you just go straight to filing once you have all the contractor info ready?

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Samuel Robinson

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Just curious - did either of you have any major tax changes from the previous year? Like buying a house, having a child, changing filing status, etc.? I got hit with a big tax bill the year after we bought our house because I didn't adjust my withholding to account for no longer taking the standard deduction.

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Camila Castillo

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This happened to me too! I got married and my spouse and I both kept our W-4s set as "Single" which caused massive underwithholding. When two people with similar incomes file jointly, it can push you into a higher tax bracket than either of you anticipated with your individual withholding.

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ApolloJackson

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I'm a tax professional and I see this scenario regularly - unfortunately, you're dealing with a perfect storm of issues. The 1.5-2% withholding rate is drastically wrong for someone earning $38k, even if filing married jointly. Here's what likely happened: Your husband's employer is probably still using his old W-4 from before 2020, and their payroll system may not be properly handling the transition to the new withholding calculations. Many employers defaulted to minimal withholding when they couldn't properly interpret old forms. For immediate action: 1) Have your husband complete a NEW 2023 W-4 immediately and submit it to payroll with a written request to confirm the change, 2) Request in writing that payroll explain their current withholding calculation and provide the tax tables they're using, 3) Document everything for your penalty abatement request. The $4,100 liability sounds about right unfortunately - with your combined $100k income filing jointly, his severe underwithholding would create exactly this kind of shortfall. The good news is you have a strong case for penalty relief since this appears to be employer error despite correct employee information. Also consider making estimated tax payments for 2024 while you get his withholding fixed to avoid repeating this situation.

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This is exactly the kind of professional insight we needed! Thank you for breaking down what likely happened. It makes so much sense that the old W-4 combined with updated tax calculations would create this mess. One follow-up question - when you mention making estimated tax payments for 2024, how do we calculate what those should be? Should we base it on what we owe now ($4,100) divided by 4 quarters, or is there a different calculation we should use while waiting for his employer to fix the withholding? Also, do you have any specific language we should use when requesting the penalty abatement? I want to make sure we frame this correctly as employer error rather than our mistake.

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Anastasia Popov

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This thread has been absolutely fantastic for understanding shipping deductions! I've been selling vintage books and collectibles for about a year now, but I've been treating it pretty casually until the 1099-K changes made me realize I need to get serious about tracking everything. One specific scenario I'm dealing with - I often sell book lots where I combine multiple items into one shipment, but sometimes the combined weight pushes me into a higher shipping tier than I originally quoted. For example, I might quote $8 for shipping three books separately, but when packed together they end up costing $12 to ship due to weight limits. Can I deduct the full $12 even though I only collected $8 from the buyer? Also, I've been using a lot of recycled packaging materials (boxes from my own Amazon orders, bubble wrap from things I've received, etc.) to keep costs down. Obviously I can't deduct these since I didn't pay for them, but what about when I need to buy additional tape or labels to make the recycled materials work properly? The discussion about tools like taxr.ai and Claimyr has been really eye-opening. As someone who's been dreading the tax implications of the new reporting thresholds, it's reassuring to know there are resources available to help navigate this stuff without needing to become a tax expert overnight!

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Lena MΓΌller

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Yes, you can absolutely deduct the full $12 you actually paid for shipping even though you only collected $8! This is exactly the same principle that's been mentioned throughout this thread - the IRS cares about your actual business expenses, not what you charged the customer. If your costs exceeded what you collected, that's just part of doing business and the full amount is deductible. For your recycled packaging materials situation - you're right that you can't deduct the "free" boxes and bubble wrap since you didn't purchase them specifically for business use. However, any additional supplies you buy to make them work (tape, labels, reinforcement materials, etc.) are absolutely deductible as business expenses. This is actually a smart cost-saving approach that many sellers use! I'm new to this community but have been lurking and learning so much from everyone's experiences. The combination of practical advice and tool recommendations like taxr.ai and Claimyr really makes the whole tax side of online selling feel much more manageable. Thanks for sharing your specific scenarios - they really help illustrate how these principles work in real situations!

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This has been such a comprehensive discussion! I've been selling handmade ceramics and pottery online for about 10 months now, and I honestly had no idea I was missing so many deductible expenses until reading through everyone's experiences here. One situation I deal with regularly that I haven't seen mentioned - what about when you have to ship fragile items that require extra protective packaging? I often spend $3-5 extra per shipment on specialized foam padding, extra bubble wrap, and "Fragile" stickers to make sure my pottery arrives intact. These costs can really add up, especially since I sometimes need to double-box items. I assume all of this extra protective packaging is deductible as shipping expenses? Also, I've been wondering about shipping to Alaska and Hawaii - the costs are significantly higher than continental US shipping, sometimes $20-25 for what would normally be a $8 shipment. These are still legitimate shipping expenses that I can deduct at the full amount, right? The information about taxr.ai and Claimyr has been really valuable. As someone who's been putting off getting organized for taxes, knowing there are tools and services available to help makes this feel so much less overwhelming. Thanks to everyone who's shared their real-world experiences - this community is incredibly helpful for navigating these new reporting requirements!

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Absolutely! All of that extra protective packaging you're using for your ceramics is completely deductible as shipping expenses. The specialized foam padding, extra bubble wrap, fragile stickers, and even the cost of double-boxing - these are all legitimate business expenses necessary to ensure your products arrive safely to customers. The IRS recognizes that different types of products require different shipping approaches, and fragile items naturally cost more to ship properly. And yes, shipping to Alaska and Hawaii at the full actual cost is definitely deductible! Whether it's $8 to ship to California or $25 to ship to Hawaii, if you paid it as a business expense for shipping sold items, you can deduct the full amount. The geographic location doesn't matter - what matters is that it was a necessary business expense. Your costs might be higher than other sellers due to the fragile nature of your products, but that's exactly why detailed record-keeping is so important. Keep all those receipts for specialty packaging materials - they really add up over the year and can make a significant difference in your deductible expenses!

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I'm really sorry you're dealing with this stress - CP22A notices can be overwhelming, especially when the amount increases! Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like the IRS found additional issues during their review of your amendment, which is unfortunately common. From reading through these experiences, it seems like the most important first step is understanding exactly WHY they increased the amount. The notice itself might be vague, but you have a few options to get clarity: 1) Call the IRS directly using the number on your notice - multiple people here mentioned this was crucial for getting specific explanations 2) Request your account transcript online at irs.gov to see line-by-line what they changed 3) Several folks mentioned using taxr.ai to analyze the notice and identify specific issues The key thing is don't wait too long - you typically have 30 days to respond, and interest keeps accumulating regardless. Many people here were able to reduce their amounts significantly once they understood what documentation the IRS was looking for. Also consider reaching out to the Taxpayer Advocate Service if you're facing financial hardship or have been trying to resolve this for a while without success. They're an independent organization that can help navigate these situations. You've got options here - this isn't the end of the road! Take a deep breath and focus on understanding what specific changes they made first.

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This is such a comprehensive summary of all the advice shared here - thank you @Harper Collins! I'm actually in a similar situation with a CP22A right now and was feeling completely lost until reading through this thread. Your point about the 30-day deadline is really important. I've been procrastinating on dealing with this because it seemed so overwhelming, but now I realize I need to act quickly. The idea of getting my account transcript online first makes a lot of sense - that way I can see exactly what they changed before calling or deciding on next steps. I'm also considering trying the taxr.ai analysis that several people mentioned having good results with. It sounds like it could save me a lot of time trying to figure out what documentation I need to gather. Has anyone here used both the online analysis AND called the IRS to compare the information you got from each approach?

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Michael Adams

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I completely understand your stress about the CP22A notice - it's one of the more confusing IRS notices to receive, especially when the amount goes UP instead of down after your amendment! A CP22A essentially means the IRS reviewed your amendment but made additional changes beyond what you originally disputed. The increased amount typically happens because they either rejected some of your amendment claims AND found other issues during their review process. Here's what I'd recommend as your immediate next steps: 1) **Get your account transcript ASAP** - Log into irs.gov and pull your account transcript for that tax year. This will show you line-by-line exactly what changes they made to your return. 2) **Call the IRS within a few days** - Use the phone number on your CP22A notice. Yes, the wait times can be brutal, but you need to understand specifically WHY they increased the amount. Don't guess - get the exact reasons from an agent who can see your account notes. 3) **Gather your documentation** - Once you understand their reasoning, collect all supporting documents for the items they're disputing. This might include receipts, forms, or calculations they didn't accept from your amendment. 4) **Know your timeline** - You typically have 30 days from the notice date to formally respond or request an appeal. Interest continues to accrue during this time, so don't delay. The good news is this is absolutely disputable if you have proper documentation. Many people successfully reduce these amounts once they understand what specific evidence the IRS needs to verify their claims. Don't panic - focus on understanding the specifics first, then you can decide whether to appeal, provide additional documentation, or work out a payment arrangement.

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Hattie Carson

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This is really solid advice @Michael Adams! I'm actually dealing with my first CP22A right now and your step-by-step breakdown is exactly what I needed to hear. The part about getting the account transcript first before calling makes a lot of sense - that way I'll have the specific line items in front of me when I talk to an agent instead of just the general explanation in the notice. I've been putting off calling because I'm dreading the wait time, but you're right that I need to understand exactly WHY they increased the amount before I can figure out how to respond. Based on what others have shared in this thread, it sounds like having that specific information makes the whole process much more manageable. Quick question - when you pull the account transcript online, does it show the reasoning behind each adjustment they made, or just the numerical changes? I'm trying to figure out if that will give me enough detail to prepare for the phone call or if I'll still need to get most of the explanation from the agent directly. Thanks for laying this out so clearly - it's helping me feel like this is actually something I can handle rather than this overwhelming disaster I was imagining!

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