Discovered Employer Didn't Withhold Enough Federal Taxes - What Can We Do?
I'm freaking out right now. I just finished my husband's tax return and we owe a shocking amount to the IRS - $4,100 in federal taxes! How is this even possible? My husband only earned about $38k last year and I made around $62k. I immediately checked my federal withholding and everything looks normal on my end. But when I looked at his paystubs, I noticed they've only been withholding 1.5% for federal taxes all year long! His most recent check shows they took out just 2% for federal taxes on earnings of $925 before deductions. We double-checked his W-4 form and everything is filled out correctly - he even has 0 under exemptions. I've been trying to get answers from his employer's payroll department for days but keep getting the runaround. Can anyone help me figure out what to do next? There's no way we should owe this much given our income levels. I'm pretty sure his employer messed up the withholding, but I don't know how to address this or if there's any recourse. Are we just stuck paying this huge bill even though it seems like their mistake?
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Santiago Diaz
Unfortunately, this happens more often than you'd think. Even with a W-4 filled out correctly, employers can sometimes apply the wrong withholding rate. The problem is that ultimately, the tax liability falls on you as the taxpayer, not the employer. First thing you should do is double-check that his W-4 is actually set up correctly. The W-4 form was completely redesigned in 2020, so if he hasn't updated it since then, that could be part of the issue. The new form doesn't use "exemptions" anymore - it uses a different system. Second, calculate what his actual withholding should have been. For $38k income, federal withholding should typically be around 10-12% depending on your filing status and other factors, not 1.5-2%. Third, approach his employer's payroll department with specific documentation. Ask them to explain in writing why the withholding percentage is so low compared to standard rates. Request a meeting with a payroll manager, not just a representative. Fourth, file Form 843 (Claim for Refund and Request for Abatement) if you believe the employer made a clear error despite correct information provided by your husband.
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Riya Sharma
•Thank you for this detailed response! I didn't realize the W-4 had changed in 2020. He's been at this job for five years and I don't think he's updated his W-4 since he started. Could that be the issue - that they're using an outdated form? But even with the old form, shouldn't they still be withholding more than 1.5%? When we look at his actual paystubs, it shows Federal Withholding as a much smaller amount than Social Security and Medicare. Is there something specific we should ask the payroll department to check?
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Santiago Diaz
•Yes, that's very likely the issue. The pre-2020 W-4 form used a completely different system with allowances/exemptions, and the IRS no longer supports that calculation method. If he hasn't submitted a new W-4 since 2020, the employer should have defaulted to a higher withholding rate (as if he were single with no adjustments), but clearly something went wrong. Looking at the paystubs is exactly right - federal withholding should generally be higher than Medicare (which is always 1.45%) and often higher than Social Security (which is always 6.2%). Ask payroll to verify what filing status and withholding instructions they have in their system for your husband. Request that they show you the actual withholding calculation they're using. Many payroll systems allow employees to see and update their W-4 information online - check if that's an option at his company.
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Millie Long
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KaiEsmeralda
•Does this really work for getting penalties removed? My brother owes $5k from a similar situation and the IRS is charging him penalties even though it was clearly his employer's mistake. How detailed is the report they give you?
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Debra Bai
•I'm a little skeptical... how does the system know what "should" be withheld? There are so many variables with taxes like deductions, credits, filing status, etc. Can it really figure all that out just from paystubs?
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Millie Long
•The report was detailed enough that it showed the correct withholding calculation based on current tax tables versus what was actually being taken out. It specifically identified which IRS Notice (I think it was 1036) that employers should be using for the current year. This was enough evidence for us to get most penalties waived using Form 843. For your second question, the system actually asks you about your filing status, dependents, and other tax situations as part of the analysis. It doesn't just look at paystubs in isolation - it builds a complete picture of what your withholding should be based on your specific tax situation. It even caught that my wife's employer wasn't accounting for our joint filing status properly, which was causing part of the under-withholding.
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KaiEsmeralda
Just wanted to follow up - I ended up using taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and I'm really glad I did. The system immediately identified that my brother's employer was using the wrong filing status in their payroll system (they had him as "married" when he should have been "married but withhold at higher single rate" since his wife also works). The report generated showed exactly where the calculation went wrong and included citations to the relevant IRS publications. When we brought this to his company's payroll department, they actually acknowledged the error! We're now using the documentation to request penalty abatement from the IRS. The analysis also showed that this had been happening for two years, not just the current tax year, so we're looking into filing amended returns. Definitely worth checking out if you're dealing with withholding issues.
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Victoria Brown
One thing nobody's mentioned - check if your husband received any bonuses or had any unusual pay periods during the year. My company once messed up and applied the wrong withholding rate to a bonus check (they used the regular withholding percentage instead of the supplemental wage rate of 22%), and it resulted in significant underwithholding. Also, if he changed jobs during the year, sometimes the new employer doesn't account for income already earned at the previous job when calculating withholding, which can lead to underwithholding as well.
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Riya Sharma
•He did get a small bonus in December - about $1,000. But even if they messed up the withholding on that, it wouldn't explain why his regular checks all year were only having 1.5-2% withheld, right? He's been at the same company the whole time. Would it help to ask for a corrected W-2? Or is the issue not with the W-2 but with the actual withholding throughout the year?
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Victoria Brown
•You're right that a small bonus wouldn't explain the year-long underwithholding. The W-2 is likely correct if it matches what was actually withheld from his paychecks - the problem is with the withholding calculation itself. A corrected W-2 would only be needed if the W-2 doesn't match what was actually withheld. What you need is to address why the withholding was calculated incorrectly all year. As others have mentioned, having your husband submit a new W-4 using the current form is critical for this year to prevent the same problem from happening again. But for the taxes you already owe, you'll need to work with the IRS on a payment plan and potentially penalty abatement as suggested earlier.
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Samuel Robinson
Just curious - did either of you have any major tax changes from the previous year? Like buying a house, having a child, changing filing status, etc.? I got hit with a big tax bill the year after we bought our house because I didn't adjust my withholding to account for no longer taking the standard deduction.
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Camila Castillo
•This happened to me too! I got married and my spouse and I both kept our W-4s set as "Single" which caused massive underwithholding. When two people with similar incomes file jointly, it can push you into a higher tax bracket than either of you anticipated with your individual withholding.
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ApolloJackson
I'm a tax professional and I see this scenario regularly - unfortunately, you're dealing with a perfect storm of issues. The 1.5-2% withholding rate is drastically wrong for someone earning $38k, even if filing married jointly. Here's what likely happened: Your husband's employer is probably still using his old W-4 from before 2020, and their payroll system may not be properly handling the transition to the new withholding calculations. Many employers defaulted to minimal withholding when they couldn't properly interpret old forms. For immediate action: 1) Have your husband complete a NEW 2023 W-4 immediately and submit it to payroll with a written request to confirm the change, 2) Request in writing that payroll explain their current withholding calculation and provide the tax tables they're using, 3) Document everything for your penalty abatement request. The $4,100 liability sounds about right unfortunately - with your combined $100k income filing jointly, his severe underwithholding would create exactly this kind of shortfall. The good news is you have a strong case for penalty relief since this appears to be employer error despite correct employee information. Also consider making estimated tax payments for 2024 while you get his withholding fixed to avoid repeating this situation.
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Samantha Johnson
•This is exactly the kind of professional insight we needed! Thank you for breaking down what likely happened. It makes so much sense that the old W-4 combined with updated tax calculations would create this mess. One follow-up question - when you mention making estimated tax payments for 2024, how do we calculate what those should be? Should we base it on what we owe now ($4,100) divided by 4 quarters, or is there a different calculation we should use while waiting for his employer to fix the withholding? Also, do you have any specific language we should use when requesting the penalty abatement? I want to make sure we frame this correctly as employer error rather than our mistake.
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