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Is there something wrong with my husband's work's payroll system? Federal tax withholding extremely low

I'm completely baffled by what's happening with my husband's paychecks. When preparing our 2024 taxes, we discovered his employer has been severely under-withholding federal taxes (strangely, state taxes were withheld correctly). Now we're stuck with a massive unexpected tax bill. Looking at his paystubs, the federal withholding amounts are ridiculous - around $7 on paychecks over $2500. The most recent paycheck had a federal withholding of just $0.05! That's not even a full penny! My husband spoke with HR today and apparently other employees are experiencing the same issue. The payroll person simply said withholdings are calculated based on everyone's W-4 forms but provided zero explanation about how such tiny withholdings were determined. Even with filing as "married" on his W-4, there's no way the withholding should be this low - we're talking less than 0.3% withholding rate. Has anyone experienced something similar? Is this a payroll system glitch? What options do we have besides manually calculating the correct withholding amounts ourselves and submitting a new W-4?

Rudy Cenizo

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This definitely sounds like something is wrong with their payroll system. Federal tax withholding of just pennies on thousands of dollars in wages doesn't make mathematical sense regardless of W-4 elections. A couple things to check: First, look at the actual paystubs and confirm that your husband's income is being properly classified as taxable wages (not as some other non-taxable compensation). Second, check if the payroll system is correctly recognizing his filing status - sometimes systems default to "Married filing jointly with multiple jobs" which can significantly reduce withholding. The simplest solution is to submit a new W-4 with additional withholding specified in Step 4(c). Calculate how much extra needs to be withheld per paycheck to make up the difference. For instance, if he's paid bi-weekly and you're short about $2600 in withholding for the year, request an additional $100 per paycheck. Also, to avoid penalties, you may want to make an estimated tax payment for the current quarter to catch up on what wasn't withheld. The IRS typically waives underpayment penalties if you've paid at least 90% of what you owe for the current year or 100% of what you owed last year.

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Natalie Khan

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Thanks for this advice! When you say "additional withholding specified in Step 4(c)" - is that just where you write in a specific dollar amount to be withheld per check? And if we do this, does it override whatever weird calculation their system is doing? Also, how do you make an estimated tax payment? We've never had to do that before.

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Rudy Cenizo

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Yes, Step 4(c) on the W-4 is where you can specify an exact dollar amount to be withheld from each paycheck. This amount gets added on top of whatever the system calculates based on the other information, so it doesn't completely override their calculation but rather supplements it. This is often the simplest fix for underwithholding situations. For estimated tax payments, you can use the IRS Direct Pay system at irs.gov or the Electronic Federal Tax Payment System (EFTPS). You'll select "estimated tax" as the payment reason. It's fairly straightforward, and you can pay with a bank account transfer. Just be sure to make the payment before the quarterly deadline to avoid potential penalties.

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Daryl Bright

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Sienna Gomez

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Does this actually work? I've had similar issues with my company's payroll and our HR department is completely useless. How exactly did the report help convince your HR department to take action?

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Daryl Bright

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The report definitely helped because it showed the mathematical proof that the withholding tables being used were outdated. It highlighted specific calculations and compared them to the current IRS published rates. Having that documentation made it impossible for HR to dismiss it as employee error. The site uses AI to analyze the documents, but they also have tax professionals who review cases where anomalies are detected. Everything is encrypted and they have a pretty solid privacy policy. I was hesitant too but was desperate after spending hours trying to figure out the issue myself. They don't store your documents after the analysis is complete.

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Tyrone Hill

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I'm an accountant (not giving tax advice, just general info). What you're describing sounds like the payroll system might be calculating the withholding based on annualized amounts incorrectly. Each paycheck should be treated as if you'd make that same amount for all pay periods in the year, then the withholding is calculated on that projected annual income. If their system is failing to annualize properly or is applying deductions/credits incorrectly, it could result in these tiny withholdings. If multiple employees are affected, this is 100% an employer payroll system problem. They need to get their payroll provider involved to audit the system calculations. In the meantime, your husband should submit a new W-4 with either: 1. "Single" or "Married filing separately" checked (higher withholding) 2. An additional amount specified on line 4(c) 3. Fewer deductions claimed Don't wait for them to fix it - protect yourselves for next year!

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Harmony Love

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Thank you for this explanation! When my husband talked to payroll, they insisted "the system just calculates it based on your W-4" without explaining anything about annualization or how such a tiny withholding could possibly be correct. Would changing to "Married filing separately" on his W-4 cause any issues since we actually file jointly? Or is that just to get the withholding closer to the right amount?

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Tyrone Hill

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Using "Married filing separately" on the W-4 only affects withholding during the year - it has absolutely no impact on how you actually file your tax return. You can still file jointly even if he selects this option for withholding purposes. The "Married" withholding tables assume the person is the only income earner in the household, which is why the withholding is so much lower. When both spouses work, using "Married filing separately" for withholding often gives a more accurate result. Many tax professionals recommend this approach for two-income households to prevent underwithholding.

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Toot-n-Mighty

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FWIW it sounds like your husband's work might be using those new 2025 W-4P withholding tables incorrectly. I'm going through exact same thing with my payroll. New updated tables came out but our payroll company applied them in a way that's drastically reducing withholding for everyone. We literally had a company-wide meeting about it last week when everyone started noticing their withholding dropped to almost nothing overnight. Payroll is supposedly fixing it but said any underwithholding from earlier checks is basically our problem to deal with.

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Lena Kowalski

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This makes so much sense! My husband's withholding mysteriously dropped in February, right when the new withholding rates would have been implemented. But if they're using the wrong tables or implementing them incorrectly, that would explain everything.

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Emma Johnson

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This is incredibly frustrating but unfortunately not uncommon right now. I work in HR for a mid-sized company and we've been getting similar complaints since the beginning of the year. What's likely happening is that your husband's employer's payroll system has a configuration error with the 2025 withholding tables. We discovered our system was incorrectly applying married filing status calculations that assumed significantly higher standard deductions than appropriate, resulting in dramatically reduced withholding amounts. A few immediate steps you can take: 1. Request that your husband's HR department provide documentation showing exactly how they calculated his withholding amount. They should be able to show the math. 2. File a new W-4 immediately with "Single" selected for withholding purposes (this won't affect how you file your actual return) and add extra withholding in step 4(c). 3. Document everything - keep copies of paystubs showing the incorrect withholding amounts, your communications with HR, etc. If HR continues to be unresponsive and multiple employees are affected, this may warrant a complaint to your state's Department of Labor. Employers have legal obligations to implement withholding correctly, and systematic errors affecting multiple employees can result in penalties for the company. Don't let them brush this off as "just how the system works" - withholding of pennies on thousands in wages is mathematically impossible under normal circumstances.

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Connor Murphy

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Thank you for this detailed response! As someone who's been dealing with this exact situation, it's really helpful to hear from someone in HR who understands the technical side of payroll systems. I'm definitely going to ask for documentation showing their withholding calculations - that's a great suggestion that I hadn't thought of. If they can't explain how they arrived at $0.05 federal withholding on a $2500+ paycheck, that should be pretty telling. Quick question: when you say "systematic errors affecting multiple employees can result in penalties for the company" - are those penalties from the IRS or the Department of Labor? And would those penalties potentially help employees who got stuck with unexpected tax bills due to the underwithholding? I'm hoping we can get this resolved through HR, but it's good to know there are other avenues if they continue to be unresponsive.

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