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Why are my husband's paychecks undertaxed? Federal withholding seems way too low

I need some advice because I'm completely confused. My husband and I are married with one child (born November 2023) and we live in Texas. In February 2024, we both updated our W-4 forms to account for our new dependent. We were careful to mark "married filing jointly," check the box indicating spouse works, and included the $2,000 child tax credit. I just received our W-2s for 2024 and I'm baffled by the withholding differences. My taxable wages were $115,267.83 with $13,471.57 withheld for federal taxes (about 11.7%). Meanwhile, my husband's taxable income was $78,662.21 but he only had $4,648.15 withheld for federal taxes (approximately 5.9% withholding rate). We double-checked his W-4 and everything looks correct as far as we can tell. This seems way too low for his withholding rate. Instead of getting our usual refund, we're definitely going to owe taxes this year. Does anyone know why his withholding percentage would be so much lower than mine? Could his company's payroll department have made a mistake processing his W-4? I'm completely stumped as to how his federal withholding ended up being only 5.9% of his wages.

This is a common issue with the "newer" W-4 forms (post-2020) that no longer use allowances. When both spouses work and you check the "spouse works" box, you need to complete the additional steps in Section 2 of the W-4 to get appropriate withholding. What likely happened is that your husband's payroll system is calculating his withholding as if his income was your family's only income. Since the standard deduction for MFJ is $27,700 (for 2024) and you get child tax credits, the system thinks his $78,662 is much lower in the tax brackets than it actually is when combined with your income. There are two ways to fix this for 2025: 1) Complete the Two-Earners/Multiple Jobs worksheet on the W-4 and enter the additional withholding amount in Step 4(c), or 2) Use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online to calculate a more precise withholding amount for both of you. For the 2024 taxes you owe now, you might want to make an estimated tax payment before April 15th to avoid an underpayment penalty.

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This is a common issue with the newer W-4 form design (post-2020). The problem is that even though you checked the "spouse works" box, you likely didn't complete Step 2 of the W-4 form properly, which involves either using the tax withholding estimator or completing the multiple jobs worksheet. What's happening is that each employer is calculating withholding as if that job is the only income in the household. Since the married filing jointly tax brackets are larger than single, and you get the full standard deduction ($25,900 for 2024) plus child tax credits at each job, you end up with significant underwithholding. To fix this for 2025, you need to either: 1) Complete the multiple jobs worksheet and put an additional withholding amount in Step 4(c) 2) Check the box in Step 2(c) that says "withhold at higher Single rate" 3) Use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator to calculate a more precise amount For your current tax bill, you might consider making an estimated payment before April 15th to reduce any potential underpayment penalties.

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Thank you so much for this explanation! We totally missed completing Section 2 on the W-4 and just checked the "Spouse works" box thinking that would adjust things automatically. I had no idea we needed to actually calculate an additional withholding amount. Do you happen to know if there's a simple rule of thumb for how much extra we should put in Step 4(c)? Or is using the IRS Withholding Estimator the only reliable way to figure it out?

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The IRS Withholding Estimator (www.irs.gov/W4app) is definitely the most accurate way to calculate the proper withholding amount for your specific situation. It takes into account both incomes, any deductions, and credits you qualify for. As a rough rule of thumb, when you have similar incomes, you might need additional withholding of about 5-10% of the lower income. In your case, that could mean anywhere from $300-$650 per month extra withholding. But this varies widely depending on your exact situation, so the calculator is really the best option.

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Thank you for the detailed explanation! I think we completely misunderstood how the W-4 works. We thought just checking the "spouse works" box would automatically adjust the withholding correctly. Is there a general rule of thumb for how much extra we should put for additional withholding in Step 4(c)? Or do we really need to use the worksheet/calculator to get it right?

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Using the IRS Withholding Estimator is really the most accurate approach since it considers both incomes together. The rule of thumb isn't very precise, but generally when both spouses work, the additional withholding might be roughly 10-15% of the lower income divided by the number of pay periods. For example, if your husband makes about $63k and is paid semi-monthly (24 pay periods), you might need roughly $260-390 additional withholding per paycheck. But this varies widely based on your specific situation, deductions, and credits, which is why the calculator is recommended. The "withhold at higher Single rate" option is simpler but might result in slightly more withholding than necessary. Many couples prefer this option for simplicity and to ensure they get a refund rather than owing taxes.

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Does it actually help with figuring out how much extra to withhold? I've tried the IRS calculator 3 times and keep getting different results. My husband and I have a similar situation where his withholding is way below what it should be.

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Just to add some perspective - this withholding issue is SUPER common with the new W-4 design. I'm a payroll administrator, and I see this all the time with married couples where both work. The problem is that each payroll system calculates withholding AS IF that job is the only income in the household. So when you both work, each system is essentially using the lower tax brackets twice, which results in underwithholding. The correct fix is either: 1. Use the Two-Earners worksheet and put the extra withholding on Step 4(c) 2. Choose the "Married but withhold at higher single rate" option 3. Calculate a custom additional amount using the IRS Withholding Estimator For 2025, I'd suggest sitting down with both your W-4s and recalculating. For the taxes you'll owe for 2024, make sure to file by April 15 and pay as much as you can to minimize penalties.

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Thanks for this explanation from the payroll side! We're definitely going to use one of these methods for 2025. For our current situation, if we file and pay by April 15th but can't pay the full amount, what kind of penalties should we expect? Are there options for payment plans?

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If you file on time but can't pay in full, the IRS charges a failure-to-pay penalty of 0.5% of the unpaid taxes per month, plus interest (currently around 7-8% annually). This is much better than the failure-to-file penalty which is 5% per month! The IRS offers automatic payment plans online. If you owe less than $50,000, you can set up a monthly payment plan without having to talk to anyone. Go to IRS.gov/payments and look for the "Online Payment Agreement" option. There's a small setup fee ($31 if you do direct debit online), but it's definitely worth it to avoid more serious penalties.

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I fixed this exact problem last year by using the "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" checkbox on my W-4. It's simpler than trying to calculate an exact additional withholding amount. This basically makes your withholding closer to what a single person would pay on the same income, which is usually about right when both spouses work. We had the EXACT same situation - my wife's taxes were like 11% and mine were only 6%. After checking that box and submitting a new W-4, my withholding went up to about 15%, which was a little high, but we'd rather get a refund than owe.

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doesn't checking that box mean ur filing single? won't that mess up your actual tax return when u file jointly? I'm confused about how that works

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No, checking "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" only affects how much tax is withheld from your paychecks throughout the year - it doesn't change your actual filing status when you file your tax return. You'll still file as "Married Filing Jointly" on your 1040. Think of it this way: withholding is just an estimate/prepayment of your taxes. The "single rate" withholding is higher because single people don't get the benefit of the larger married filing jointly standard deduction and tax brackets during withholding calculations. When you actually file your return, you'll use the correct MFJ rates and get a refund if too much was withheld. It's basically a simple way to avoid underwithholding when both spouses work, without having to do complex calculations.

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This is such a frustrating but common issue! I went through the exact same thing last year. The key problem is that the W-4 form changed significantly in 2020, and most people (including HR departments) don't fully understand how it works for two-earner households. What's happening is that each employer is calculating withholding as if that's your only household income. So your husband's employer sees his $78K salary and thinks "married filing jointly with one child = low tax burden" without knowing about your $115K income that pushes your combined household into much higher tax brackets. Here's what worked for me: I used the IRS Withholding Estimator (irs.gov/W4App) with both our incomes and it calculated that we needed an additional $520 per month withheld from my husband's paycheck. We put this amount in Step 4(c) of his W-4 as "Extra withholding per pay period." For your 2024 taxes that you'll owe, definitely file by April 15th even if you can't pay the full amount immediately. The failure-to-file penalty is much worse than failure-to-pay. You can set up a payment plan online at irs.gov if needed. The silver lining is that once you fix the W-4 forms properly, this won't happen again in 2025!

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