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Laila Prince

W4 Form Issues - Did I Fill it Out Wrong with Large Income Difference?

I'm married filing jointly and just started a part-time position this year. I'll be earning around $45k annually, while my spouse makes approximately $350k/year - so there's a huge gap in our incomes. I completed my W4 using the multiple jobs worksheet (option 2b), and now my paychecks are practically empty because almost everything is being withheld for federal tax. To complicate things, my spouse gets paid biweekly, while I receive weekly checks. Did I mess something up here? Is there a way I can correctly reduce the federal tax withholding amount without creating problems later? Or is this just the reality of our situation because of my spouse's significantly higher income? I wanted to use the IRS withholding estimator but it's unavailable until next month. Some additional context - I noticed the W4 instructions say to use the multiple jobs worksheet for the higher-paying job, but even if we had done it that way, I think the withholding amount would be the same? It would just come out of my spouse's paycheck instead of mine. What confuses me is that the additional tax withholding seems extremely high just because I took a lower-income position. Any thoughts?

What's happening is actually working as designed, just in a way that feels unfair. The W-4 multiple jobs worksheet looks at your combined household income to determine the proper withholding. Since your spouse makes $350k, the system assumes your earnings should be taxed at the higher marginal rate that applies to your combined income. If you used the multiple jobs worksheet on the higher earner's W-4 instead, the extra withholding would come from their paycheck rather than yours. The total amount withheld would be similar, but it wouldn't drain your paycheck specifically. You have a few options: 1) Redo your W-4 as "Married filing separately" which will use your income alone to calculate withholding, but may result in owing taxes at filing time. 2) Have your spouse update their W-4 using the multiple jobs worksheet, and you can submit a new W-4 without using that worksheet. 3) Wait for the IRS withholding estimator to come back online and use that to get more precise guidance.

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If they choose option 1 and select "Married filing separately" on the W4, but still file jointly on their actual tax return, wouldn't that create a big refund situation? I'm confused about how that works.

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That's a good question! The filing status on your W-4 only affects withholding throughout the year - it doesn't determine how you actually file your tax return. You can select "Married filing separately" on your W-4 for withholding purposes and still file jointly on your tax return. Selecting "Married filing separately" on the W-4 would indeed likely create a refund situation since you'd be withholding based on higher single tax rates while ultimately benefiting from the more favorable joint filing rates. This is actually a common strategy for two-income households where one spouse earns significantly more.

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Have you considered just putting an additional dollar amount on line 4(c) of your W-4 instead of using the multiple jobs worksheet? That way your spouse could have more withheld from their larger paycheck, and you could keep more of yours. You'd need to calculate the right amount together, but this approach often works better for couples with very different income levels.

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Wouldn't I need the IRS withholding calculator to figure out that exact amount though? I'm worried about getting it wrong and owing a huge amount at tax time.

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You can do a rough calculation without the IRS calculator. Look at your last year's total tax and divide by the number of pay periods between you and your spouse (accounting for weekly vs biweekly). Compare that to what's currently being withheld from your spouse's check, and the difference is approximately what needs to be additionally withheld. The calculator is more precise, but this method works as a temporary solution until it comes back online. Just be slightly conservative (withhold a bit extra) to be safe. You can always adjust again once the official calculator is available.

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Has anyone tried checking the "Married filing separately" box on the W4 but still filing jointly on the actual tax return? My tax guy suggested this for my situation where my wife makes 3x what I make.

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Yes! This works great for us. I make about $60k and my husband makes around $250k. I checked "married filing separately" on my W4 while he kept "married filing jointly." We still file our actual taxes jointly. This prevents my paychecks from being decimated while still withholding enough overall.

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