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Form W4 for married couples with significant income difference - what have I done wrong?

I recently started a part-time position that pays around $45k annually. My spouse earns about $380k per year, so we have a pretty massive income gap between us. We file our taxes jointly. When I completed my W4, I used the multiple jobs worksheet (option 2b) as directed. Now my paychecks are practically empty because almost everything is being withheld for federal taxes. To complicate things further, my spouse gets paid biweekly while I receive weekly checks. Did I make a mistake somewhere? Is there a way to accurately reduce the federal tax withholding without ending up owing a ton later? Or is this just the reality of our situation because of my spouse's high income? I wanted to use the IRS tax withholding estimator tool, but it's currently unavailable until next month. Additional context - I noticed the W4 instructions say to use the multiple jobs worksheet for the higher-paying job. But even if we had done it that way, wouldn't the withholding amount be the same? It would just come out of my spouse's paycheck instead of mine. The extra withholding amount seems really high just because I took a lower-income job. Any guidance would be appreciated!

You haven't done anything wrong - the W4 is working exactly as designed, just in a way that feels unfair to you personally. The issue is that our tax system treats married couples as one unit, so when you have a big income disparity, the lower earner gets taxed at the highest marginal rate of the higher earner. When you used the multiple jobs worksheet, it calculated the additional withholding needed to cover your combined income. Since the form doesn't know which paycheck to take it from, and you put the adjustment on your W4 rather than your spouse's, it's taking it from your smaller paycheck. The simplest fix would be to redo your W4 without the multiple jobs worksheet, and instead have your spouse adjust their W4 to account for both incomes. Since they make significantly more, the same withholding amount won't impact their take-home pay as dramatically. Another option is to file a new W4 for yourself, skip the multiple jobs worksheet, but check the box in Step 2(c) for "multiple jobs" which will use a different calculation method that might be less severe on your paycheck.

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Would checking the box in 2(c) still ensure they're withholding enough? I'm in a similar situation (spouse makes $200k, I make $40k) and don't want to be underwithheld and owe a bunch next April.

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The box in 2(c) will withhold at higher single rates rather than using the exact calculation method, and it's designed to be a simpler but still adequate approach. It's generally sufficient for most couples where both work, though in very high income disparities like yours, it might underwithhold slightly. A better approach in your case might be having your spouse fill out the multiple jobs worksheet on their W4, since they have the larger paycheck that can better absorb the additional withholding. This way, you'd fill out your W4 with just the basic info, and your spouse's W4 would account for the combined income effect.

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How exactly does it calculate this? Does it just tell you to put the withholding on the higher earner's check or does it do something more sophisticated? I've tried using the IRS calculator when it was working and it was honestly confusing.

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Is this better than just waiting for the IRS withholding calculator to come back online next month? I'm hesitant to use third-party tools for something this important.

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You need to submit a NEW W4! I had this EXACT issue. Here's what worked for me: 1. Fill out a fresh W4 for yourself 2. Don't use the multiple jobs worksheet at all on YOUR form 3. Check the box in Step 2(c) that says "If there are only two jobs total, you may check this box" 4. Have your spouse do the multiple jobs worksheet on THEIR W4 This redistributes the withholding so it's not all coming from your smaller paycheck. My wife makes 250k and I make 40k, and this fixed the issue where my entire check was going to taxes!

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Thanks for this specific advice! With this approach, do we need to put anything in box 4(c) on either form? And would checking the box in 2(c) work even though my spouse is paid biweekly and I'm paid weekly?

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You shouldn't need to put anything in box 4(c) for either form if you follow this approach. The box in 2(c) works regardless of different pay frequencies - it's designed as a simplified method that accounts for different paycheck schedules. The key is making sure your spouse completes their W4 with the multiple jobs worksheet since their larger paycheck can better absorb the additional withholding. When I did this, my paycheck went from almost nothing to a reasonable amount, and we still had enough withheld overall to cover our tax liability.

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Everybody is complicating this. The simplest fix is: 1. Both of you fill out new W4s 2. Skip the multiple jobs worksheet altogether 3. Figure out how much EXTRA you need withheld for the year 4. Divide that by # of paychecks your SPOUSE gets annually 5. Put THAT amount in Box 4(c) of SPOUSE'S W4 only 6. Leave your W4 simple with just the basic info This way, the extra withholding comes from the bigger paycheck where it won't hurt as much. My husband makes 6 figures and I make $40k and this method worked perfectly for us.

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But how do you figure out "how much EXTRA you need withheld for the year" without the worksheet or calculator? That's the hard part!

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You can estimate it using last year's tax return as a starting point. Look at your total tax liability from last year, then estimate what would be withheld this year based on both your current incomes using just the basic W4 info (no worksheets). The difference is roughly what you need to add. For example, if your combined tax liability should be around $80k for the year, but your regular withholding would only be $65k, then you need about $15k extra. Divide that by your spouse's number of paychecks (26 if biweekly) and put about $577 in box 4(c) of their W4. It's not perfect, but it gets you close enough that you won't owe a huge amount or get massively overwitheld. You can always adjust mid-year if needed.

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