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This whole thread has been incredibly helpful! I was in the exact same situation as Diego and almost fell for the same upsell from my registered agent. They quoted me $225 for "enhanced privacy protection" when getting my EIN. Based on everything discussed here, I'm going to skip their service entirely and just file for the EIN myself through the IRS website. It's good to know that the privacy protection is essentially meaningless since my SSN will be linked to the EIN in IRS systems regardless of who files the paperwork. One quick follow-up question though - once I have my EIN, should I be using it on all business documents going forward instead of my SSN? Or are there specific situations where I'd still need to use my SSN even with an EIN?
Great question! Once you have your EIN, you should generally use it for most business-related purposes instead of your SSN. Use your EIN for things like: - Opening business bank accounts - Vendor applications and payment forms (like W-9s) - Business loan applications - Setting up merchant accounts - Filing business tax returns However, there are still some situations where you might need to provide your SSN even with an EIN: - Personal guarantee situations (like business credit cards where you're personally liable) - Background checks for certain licenses or permits - If you're filing as a sole proprietor on your personal tax return The main benefit is that having an EIN means you can avoid giving your SSN to vendors, clients, and other business contacts in most day-to-day situations. It creates that separation between your personal and business identity that everyone's been talking about.
This thread perfectly highlights why it's so important to do your research before paying for these "premium" services. I work in business formation and see clients get upsold on meaningless services all the time. The bottom line is simple: for a single-member LLC, your SSN will ALWAYS be connected to your EIN in IRS records. There's no way around this - it's a federal requirement. Any registered agent claiming they can provide "privacy protection" from the IRS is misleading you. Here's what I tell my clients: Get your EIN for free directly from IRS.gov. It takes 10-15 minutes online and you'll have your number immediately. Use that EIN for banking, vendor forms, and business transactions to avoid sharing your SSN unnecessarily. But understand that the IRS will always have both numbers linked in their system. Save your money for things that actually matter - like proper business insurance or accounting software. Don't waste hundreds of dollars on fake privacy services.
This is exactly the kind of straightforward advice I was looking for! As someone new to business formation, it's really helpful to hear from someone in the industry confirming what everyone else has been saying. I was getting overwhelmed by all the different "premium" services my registered agent was trying to sell me - privacy protection, expedited processing, compliance monitoring, etc. It sounds like most of these are just ways to extract extra money from people who don't know better. I'm definitely going to file for my EIN myself through the IRS website. One last question though - is there anything I should be careful about when doing it myself? Like common mistakes to avoid or specific information I need to have ready before starting the application?
Just to clarify some confusion I'm seeing in the comments - Republic Bank is a tax refund processor that many tax preparation companies use. They aren't actually your bank. They receive the funds from the IRS, take out any preparation fees you owed (if you opted for fees to be taken from your refund), and then forward the remainder to your actual bank (Navy Federal). This process typically takes exactly 24-48 hours. I've tracked this for the past 3 tax seasons, and the average time between Republic notification and Navy Federal deposit was 37.5 hours.
Navy Federal member here! Just went through this exact scenario last month. Got my Republic notification on a Tuesday, transcript showed DDD for Friday, and I was checking my account obsessively every few hours like you probably are right now š Here's what happened: Navy Federal posted my refund Thursday at 3:47 AM (yes, I checked my phone at some ungodly hour and it was there). Never showed as pending - just appeared as a completed deposit. The joint filing thing shouldn't cause any delays in the banking side of things. That verification happens at the IRS level before they even send it to Republic. Since you already got the Republic notification, you're in the clear. My advice? Stop checking your account every 30 minutes (easier said than done, I know). Set a phone alert to check Friday morning. If it's not there by end of business Friday, then you can start worrying. But honestly, based on my experience and what I've seen in this community, you'll probably wake up Friday morning to a nice surprise in your account balance.
This is so reassuring to hear! I'm definitely guilty of checking my account way too often - probably every hour since I got the Republic notification yesterday. It's good to know that Navy Federal doesn't always show pending status for tax refunds. I'll try to be patient and wait until Friday morning before panicking. Thanks for sharing your timeline - knowing it posted at 3:47 AM gives me hope I might wake up to good news too! š¤
Another angle to consider - if your sister ends up having any questions about her specific tax situation after filing (or if she doesn't file and later worries she made the wrong choice), she can always contact the IRS directly. I know that sounds intimidating, but they actually have a helpline specifically for tax law questions where they'll walk you through your situation. The key thing is not to panic. At her income level and age, this is a very common situation and there are no "gotcha" penalties waiting for her. Whether she files or doesn't file, she's not going to get in serious trouble. The worst case is she misses out on a refund if she doesn't file when she should have, or she does some extra paperwork if she files when she didn't technically need to. Both are pretty low-stakes outcomes! I'd suggest having her check her final paystub from December to see exactly how much federal tax was withheld for the whole year. If it's more than like $50, definitely worth filing to get it back. If it's just a few dollars, then it's really her choice whether the hassle is worth it.
This is such solid advice, especially about checking that final paystub! I'm actually in a similar boat with my younger cousin who just started working. The "low-stakes" framing really helps put things in perspective - it's easy to get overwhelmed by tax stuff when you're new to it, but you're absolutely right that at this income level, there's no major disaster waiting to happen either way. Thanks for the practical tip about the $50 threshold for deciding whether it's worth the effort to file!
One thing that might help reduce your sister's stress is understanding that the IRS actually has pretty good resources for first-time filers. Their website has a "Do I Need to File?" interactive tool that walks you through questions about your specific situation - it's designed for exactly cases like your sister's where the rules seem confusing. Also, since she's 17 and this is likely her first tax experience, this could be a great learning opportunity. Even if she ends up not being required to file, going through the process of organizing her documents and understanding the thresholds will make her way more confident about taxes in the future. Plus, if she does file and gets a refund, that's a nice little bonus for her responsible work ethic! The main thing is that she shouldn't worry about "getting in trouble." The IRS isn't sitting around waiting to pounce on teenagers with part-time jobs. They're way more focused on people who are actually trying to evade taxes or have complicated business situations. Your sister is clearly trying to do the right thing by asking questions, which is exactly what responsible taxpayers do.
This is such a reassuring way to look at it! I really appreciate how you framed this as a learning opportunity rather than just a stressful obligation. You're totally right that going through this process now, even if she doesn't technically have to file, will make her so much more confident about taxes going forward. And honestly, the fact that she's even asking these questions at 17 shows she's already more responsible about money stuff than a lot of people twice her age! I'm definitely going to share that "Do I Need to File?" tool with her - having an official IRS resource walk her through it step-by-step sounds way less intimidating than trying to decode all the tax code language on our own.
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation as Pedro but from the contractor side - I received both a 1099-K from Stripe and a 1099-NEC from my client for the same payments in 2024. What I found particularly useful from this discussion is understanding that this isn't necessarily a mistake, but rather an overlap in reporting requirements. Jake's explanation about ACH through Stripe creating this "middle ground" really clarified things for me. For other contractors dealing with this, I'd recommend keeping a spreadsheet that matches your invoices to both the 1099-K transactions and 1099-NEC amounts. This way you have clear documentation showing they represent the same income streams. I also plan to reach out to my clients proactively (like Dylan suggested) to discuss payment methods for 2025 to avoid this confusion next year. One question I still have: if I'm working with multiple clients who all pay through different platforms (some via Stripe, others through Square, etc.), should I expect to potentially receive multiple 1099-Ks plus individual 1099-NECs? The record-keeping is going to get complex pretty quickly.
Yes, you should expect to potentially receive multiple 1099-Ks if you're working with clients who use different payment platforms. Each platform (Stripe, Square, PayPal, etc.) will issue their own 1099-K if you exceed their reporting thresholds with that specific platform. Plus you'll get individual 1099-NECs from each client for the same payments if they're paying via ACH through those platforms. I'd suggest creating a master spreadsheet with columns for: Client Name, Invoice Date, Amount, Payment Method, 1099-NEC Amount, 1099-K Platform, and 1099-K Amount. This way you can track everything in one place and easily identify overlaps. It sounds overwhelming, but once you set up the system it becomes much more manageable. Also consider asking your regular clients about consolidating payment methods for 2025 - maybe having them all use the same platform or switch to direct bank transfers to simplify your record-keeping. Many clients are happy to accommodate when you explain it helps with tax compliance.
As someone who recently went through this exact situation, I can confirm that what everyone is saying here is correct - you absolutely did the right thing by issuing the 1099-NEC even though Stripe issued a 1099-K. This is one of those unfortunate gaps in the current tax reporting system. What I learned from my CPA is that the IRS recognizes this overlap exists and has built-in systems to detect when the same income might be reported on multiple forms. The key is proper documentation - both you and your contractor should keep records showing that these represent the same payments, not additional income. For 2025, I'd suggest having a conversation with your contractors about payment preferences. Some of mine actually preferred switching to direct ACH transfers from my business account to avoid the 1099-K complexity altogether. Others were fine with the dual reporting as long as I gave them a heads up about what to expect. One tip that helped me: I now include a brief note on my 1099-NEC transmittals explaining that the contractor may also receive a 1099-K from the payment processor for the same amounts. It saves confusion and shows you're being proactive about compliance. Your contractor will probably appreciate the transparency!
This is exactly the kind of proactive approach more businesses should take! I'm a new contractor who just started getting paid through various platforms this year, and honestly, the tax implications never occurred to me until I started seeing discussions like this. The idea of including a note with the 1099-NEC explaining potential dual reporting is brilliant - it shows you're thinking about your contractor's experience, not just checking boxes for compliance. As someone who's about to file taxes for the first time as an independent contractor, that kind of heads-up would save me from panicking when I see what looks like double reporting. Quick question for everyone - is there a standard threshold where this becomes an issue? Like, do I only need to worry about getting both forms if I'm making over a certain amount from each client, or does it apply to any payment made through these platforms?
Noah Lee
Could also be worth asking if she's part of a larger firm with specific policies or if she's independent. Different firms have different document retention policies. I've worked with H&R Block before and they never asked for copies of my SSN card, just needed to see it once to verify.
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Ava Hernandez
ā¢I've used both big firms and independent preparers and NONE have ever asked for copies of my SSN card. They just took the number on their intake form. This seems fishy to me.
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Yara Haddad
I'm a CPA and I can confirm that requesting copies of SSN cards is NOT standard practice in our industry. We need your SSN to prepare your return, but we don't need physical copies of the cards themselves. The IRS Due Diligence requirements for tax preparers focus on verifying identity through government-issued photo ID (like driver's license) and ensuring the SSN matches the taxpayer, but keeping copies of SSN cards isn't part of these requirements. Her explanation about "security issues" doesn't make sense from a professional standpoint. If someone tries to fraudulently use your SSN, having a copy of your card won't help prevent or resolve that situation. What WOULD help is proper data security practices on her end - encrypted storage, secure client portals, and following IRS Publication 4557 guidelines for data protection. I'd recommend asking her to provide written documentation of her firm's document retention policy and why specifically she needs copies rather than just verification. A legitimate tax professional should be able to explain their practices clearly and provide documentation of their security protocols.
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Felicity Bud
ā¢This is really helpful to hear from an actual CPA! @Yara Haddad, when you mention asking for written documentation of her retention policy, what should I be looking for in that documentation? Like what would be red flags versus legitimate practices? I want to make sure I know what questions to ask when I follow up with her.
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