Can I get Washington ESD unemployment if I get fired from my job?
My supervisor has been writing me up for minor things and I'm pretty sure they're building a case to fire me. If I do get terminated, will I still be able to collect unemployment benefits through Washington ESD? I've been at this job for 2 years and never had issues before this new manager started. I'm worried about paying my rent if I lose this job and can't get UI benefits. Does anyone know what the rules are for getting fired vs quitting?
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Max Reyes
Yes, you can get unemployment if you're fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD will review your case to determine if you were fired for misconduct. If it's performance issues or they're downsizing, you'll likely qualify. If it's for willful misconduct (like stealing, violence, etc.), you probably won't.
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Felicity Bud
•What counts as misconduct exactly? My write-ups are for things like being 5 minutes late or not following procedures perfectly.
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Max Reyes
•Those sound more like performance issues than misconduct. Misconduct usually involves intentional rule violations or harmful behavior. Being late occasionally or struggling with procedures typically doesn't disqualify you from UI benefits.
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Mikayla Davison
I got fired last year for attendance issues and still got approved for unemployment. Washington ESD looks at whether you willfully violated company policy. If you were trying to do your job but just weren't meeting expectations, that's different from deliberately breaking rules.
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Felicity Bud
•That's reassuring. How long did it take to get approved after you filed?
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Mikayla Davison
•About 3 weeks, but my employer didn't contest it. If yours fights the claim, it could take longer and go to adjudication.
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Sofia Ramirez
Yes, you can potentially get unemployment benefits even if you're fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD will determine if you were fired for 'misconduct' or not. If you were fired for something like poor performance, lack of skills, or personality conflicts, you'll likely qualify. If you were fired for things like theft, violence, or repeatedly breaking company rules, you probably won't qualify.
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NebulaKnight
•That's a relief to hear. It's mainly been personality conflicts with my supervisor, nothing serious like theft or anything.
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Dmitry Popov
•Yeah I got fired for being late too many times and still got approved for benefits. It took a few weeks though because they had to do an adjudication process.
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Mateo Hernandez
It depends on why you're fired. Washington ESD will approve your claim if you're fired for reasons beyond your control (like poor performance or not being a good fit) but they'll deny it if you're fired for misconduct like stealing, harassment, or willful violation of company policy.
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Nia Jackson
•What counts as misconduct exactly? My boss says I'm too slow but I'm trying my best.
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Mateo Hernandez
•Being too slow or not meeting performance standards usually isn't misconduct. That would be considered a discharge for non-misconduct reasons and you'd likely qualify for benefits.
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CosmicCruiser
I got fired last year for attendance issues and Washington ESD initially denied my claim. Had to appeal and it took forever to get through. The whole process was a nightmare trying to reach anyone at ESD.
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Aisha Khan
•Did you win your appeal? Attendance can be tricky depending on the circumstances.
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CosmicCruiser
•Yeah I eventually won because I had medical documentation for my absences. But it took 3 months to get a hearing scheduled.
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Khalil Urso
It depends on whether you're fired for misconduct or not. If you're fired for reasons beyond your control (like company downsizing, poor performance that isn't willful, or personality conflicts), you can usually get Washington ESD benefits. But if you're fired for misconduct - like stealing, fighting, or repeatedly violating company policy after warnings - you'll likely be disqualified.
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Nasira Ibanez
•What counts as misconduct exactly? My boss says I'm not meeting sales targets but I've been trying my best.
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Khalil Urso
•Poor performance by itself usually isn't misconduct unless you're deliberately not doing your job. If you're genuinely trying but just not hitting targets, that's typically not disqualifying.
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Myles Regis
I got fired last year and still got my benefits. The key is being honest on your claim about why you were terminated. Washington ESD will contact your employer to verify the reason, so don't lie about it.
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Nasira Ibanez
•How long did it take for them to decide? I'm worried about the wait time.
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Myles Regis
•Mine took about 3 weeks because they had to do an adjudication review. During that time I couldn't get any payments, which was rough.
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Brian Downey
If you do get fired and need to reach Washington ESD about your claim status, I'd recommend checking out Claimyr (claimyr.com). They helped me get through to an actual agent when I couldn't get past the busy signals. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Super helpful when you're dealing with adjudication issues.
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Jacinda Yu
•Is that legit? I've never heard of using a service like that for unemployment stuff.
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Brian Downey
•Yeah it's real. I was skeptical too but it actually worked. Way better than sitting on hold for hours just to get disconnected.
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Landon Flounder
The Washington ESD will look at whether your firing was for 'misconduct connected with work.' That's the official language they use. Things like tardiness, absenteeism, or poor performance usually don't qualify as misconduct unless there's a pattern of deliberate behavior after warnings.
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Nasira Ibanez
•That's reassuring. I've never been written up or anything, just having trouble with these new sales quotas.
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Callum Savage
•Wait, are you sure about that? I thought any firing made you ineligible.
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Landon Flounder
•@profile7 No, that's a common misconception. Lots of people who get fired still qualify for UI benefits.
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Miguel Hernández
In Washington, you can usually get unemployment if you're fired for reasons other than misconduct. The key is whether Washington ESD considers it 'misconduct' or just poor performance. If they're writing you up for minor things, that might not qualify as misconduct.
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KylieRose
•That's good to hear. What exactly counts as misconduct though? I've been a few minutes late some days but nothing major.
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Miguel Hernández
•Misconduct usually means willful violation of company rules or standards. Being late occasionally probably won't disqualify you unless it's excessive or you were warned repeatedly.
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Ava Rodriguez
The key thing is that Washington ESD has to determine whether you were fired for 'misconduct connected with work.' That's the legal standard they use. Simple poor performance usually doesn't count as misconduct. You'll need to file your claim as soon as possible after you lose your job and be completely honest about the circumstances.
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NebulaKnight
•Should I wait until I actually get fired or can I file ahead of time if I think it's coming?
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Ava Rodriguez
•You have to wait until you're actually unemployed to file. You can't file while you're still employed, even if you know you're about to be let go.
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Sasha Ivanov
i got fired last year and still got my benefits. took forever to get through to washington esd though, kept getting busy signals
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KylieRose
•How long did it take for your claim to get approved? I'm hoping I won't have to wait weeks without income.
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Sasha Ivanov
•like 3 weeks but that was because they had to do an adjudication to determine if i was eligible
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Adrian Connor
If you do get fired, file your claim immediately. Don't wait. Washington ESD will investigate by contacting both you and your employer to get both sides of the story. Document everything - save emails, write down dates of incidents, keep copies of any warnings you received.
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Aisha Jackson
•This is important advice. I waited a week to file after getting terminated and wished I'd done it right away. The sooner you file, the sooner your benefit year starts.
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Felicity Bud
•Should I start documenting things now even though I haven't been fired yet?
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Adrian Connor
•Absolutely. Keep records of your performance reviews, any coaching sessions, attendance records, anything that shows you were trying to meet job requirements.
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Ethan Taylor
If you do get fired and need to contact Washington ESD about your claim, I'd recommend checking out Claimyr at claimyr.com. They have a service that helps you actually get through to ESD agents when the phone lines are jammed. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Way better than spending hours on hold.
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Yuki Ito
•Is that legit? Sounds too good to be true with how impossible it is to reach ESD.
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Ethan Taylor
•Yeah it's real. I used it when my claim got stuck in adjudication. Saved me probably 20+ hours of failed call attempts.
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Ally Tailer
been there done that, got fired for attendance issues but still got my unemployment. took forever though and had to go through an appeal process
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Nasira Ibanez
•How was the appeal process? Sounds intimidating.
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Ally Tailer
•not too bad, just had to explain my side of the story over the phone. they mostly wanted to know if i was trying to follow company policy
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Miguel Ortiz
I went through this exact situation last year. Got fired after 6 months for 'not being a good fit' and was stressed about whether I'd get benefits. Filed my claim online and had to wait about 3 weeks for them to make a decision. The hardest part was trying to get through to someone at Washington ESD to check on my claim status - their phone lines are always jammed.
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NebulaKnight
•How did you finally get through to talk to someone? I keep hearing the phone system is impossible.
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Miguel Ortiz
•I actually found this service called Claimyr that helped me get through to an actual person at Washington ESD. You can check it out at claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. It was honestly a lifesaver because I was getting nowhere calling myself.
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Zainab Khalil
•Never heard of Claimyr before but if it actually works that would be amazing. I've been trying to reach Washington ESD for weeks about my own claim.
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Liam Murphy
Washington ESD will investigate any termination to determine eligibility. They'll contact both you and your employer to get the facts. Document everything your supervisor is doing now - dates, times, what they said. This could help your case if they claim it was misconduct.
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KylieRose
•Should I start keeping a written record of these interactions? I have some text messages from my supervisor that seem pretty unreasonable.
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Liam Murphy
•Absolutely keep records. Screenshots of texts, emails, write-ups, anything that shows the pattern of behavior. Washington ESD will want to see documentation during the adjudication process.
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Carmen Lopez
The key thing is to file your claim immediately after you're terminated. Don't wait around thinking about it. Washington ESD has a waiting week but you still need to file right away to get the process started.
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Nia Jackson
•How do I file? Is it all online now?
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Carmen Lopez
•Yes, you file online through the Washington ESD website. You'll need your Social Security number, driver's license, and employment history for the past 18 months.
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Ryder Everingham
I had trouble reaching Washington ESD when my claim went into adjudication after being fired. Spent hours on hold every day for weeks. Finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get through to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Saved me so much frustration.
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Felicity Bud
•How does that work? Is it expensive?
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Ryder Everingham
•It helps you get through the phone queue to reach a real Washington ESD agent. Much easier than trying to call yourself when you're dealing with adjudication issues.
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Lilly Curtis
•Never heard of this but sounds useful. The wait times to reach Washington ESD are insane.
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Khalil Urso
Make sure you document everything now while you're still employed. Keep records of your performance reviews, any coaching or discipline, and communications with your supervisor. This will help if Washington ESD needs to review your case.
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Nasira Ibanez
•Good idea. I should probably save my performance reviews and any emails from my boss.
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Aliyah Debovski
•Yes! I learned this the hard way. Having documentation makes a huge difference in these situations.
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Amara Okafor
I had such a hard time getting through to Washington ESD when I needed to check on my claim status. Spent hours on hold every day for weeks. Finally found this service called Claimyr that helped me get through to an actual agent. You can check it out at claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.
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KylieRose
•Is that like a paid service? I'm trying to save money in case I do lose my job.
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Amara Okafor
•It's worth looking into if you can't get through the normal way. Much better than wasting hours on hold and getting nowhere.
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CaptainAwesome
•Never heard of that but anything's gotta be better than the Washington ESD phone system. That thing is a nightmare.
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QuantumQuest
The unemployment system is so frustrating!!! I got denied at first when I was fired and had to appeal. Took MONTHS to get it sorted out. The whole process is designed to discourage people from applying I swear.
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NebulaKnight
•Oh no, what happened with your appeal? Did you eventually win?
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QuantumQuest
•Yeah I won but it was a nightmare. Had to go to a hearing and everything. Make sure you keep documentation of everything if you do get fired.
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Dmitry Popov
just make sure you file your weekly claims even while your initial claim is being reviewed. i made that mistake and it delayed my payments for weeks
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NebulaKnight
•Good tip, thanks! I didn't know you had to do weekly claims during the review process.
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Sofia Ramirez
•Yes, this is important. You need to file your weekly claims to maintain your place in line for benefits, even if your initial claim is still pending.
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Andre Dupont
ugh this whole system is so stressful. I got fired 6 months ago and STILL haven't received all my benefits because of some stupid adjudication issue they won't explain
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Mateo Hernandez
•Have you tried calling to check on the status? Sometimes adjudication gets stuck and needs a nudge.
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Andre Dupont
•tried calling literally hundreds of times. never get through. its impossible
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Ethan Taylor
•This is exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier - they can get you connected when the normal phone system fails.
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Leo Simmons
UGH the whole system is so stressful when you're already dealing with losing your job! I got fired for 'poor performance' but it was really because my manager didn't like me. Still got unemployment though. Washington ESD seems pretty fair about distinguishing between actual misconduct and just not being a good fit.
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Felicity Bud
•That's exactly my situation - I think they just want me gone. Did your employer contest your claim?
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Leo Simmons
•They tried to but Washington ESD sided with me. Had to go through the whole adjudication process but it worked out.
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Aisha Khan
Make sure you understand the difference between being fired and being laid off. Layoffs are almost always approved for unemployment. Firings depend on the reason. If your employer contests your claim, be prepared to provide documentation about your termination.
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Nia Jackson
•What kind of documentation should I keep?
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Aisha Khan
•Any emails, performance reviews, disciplinary notices, or written warnings. Also document the date and reason you were given for termination.
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Max Reyes
The key factors Washington ESD considers: Was the termination due to inability to do the job vs. unwillingness? Did you violate a known policy? Was it an isolated incident or pattern? Did you have warnings and opportunity to improve? Performance issues usually don't disqualify you from UI benefits.
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Lindsey Fry
•This is helpful. What if they fire you during your probationary period?
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Max Reyes
•Probationary period firings are often treated as performance-related, so you'd likely still qualify for unemployment benefits.
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Felicity Bud
•Good to know since I'm technically still in my extended probation period.
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QuantumQuasar
Just file and see what happens. Worst case they deny it and you appeal. I've seen people get approved for unemployment after being fired for all sorts of reasons.
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CosmicCruiser
•True, but appeals can take months. Better to understand your chances upfront.
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Miranda Singer
Here's what will happen: You'll file your claim online at secure.esd.wa.gov and answer questions about why you're no longer working. Be completely honest. Washington ESD will then contact your employer for their side of the story. If there's a dispute about misconduct, they'll make a determination.
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Nasira Ibanez
•What if my employer lies about what happened?
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Miranda Singer
•That's why documentation is so important. You can submit evidence during the adjudication process to support your version of events.
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Cass Green
•Also remember you have appeal rights if the initial decision goes against you.
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Mateo Hernandez
One important thing - even if you're fired, you still have to meet all the other requirements like being able and available for work, actively seeking employment, and completing your weekly claims. The job search requirement is 3 employer contacts per week currently.
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Nia Jackson
•Do I have to start job searching immediately or can I take a week to figure things out?
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Mateo Hernandez
•You need to be actively searching from the first week you claim benefits. Washington ESD takes the work search requirement seriously.
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Finley Garrett
Don't quit before they fire you thinking it will look better! If you quit, you'll have to prove you had 'good cause' which is actually harder than getting benefits after being fired for non-misconduct reasons.
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Nasira Ibanez
•I was actually thinking about quitting first. Thanks for the warning!
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Finley Garrett
•Yeah, that's a common mistake. Being fired for poor performance is usually better for UI eligibility than quitting.
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Yuki Tanaka
THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED!!! They'll find any excuse to deny your claim. I got fired for being 5 minutes late ONE TIME and they said it was misconduct. Had to appeal and everything. Washington ESD doesn't care about working people!!
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KylieRose
•That's terrifying. Did you win your appeal?
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Yuki Tanaka
•Eventually yes but it took 2 months and I almost lost my apartment. The whole system is designed to screw you over.
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Miguel Hernández
•Appeals can take time but many people do win them. Don't let one bad experience scare you - every case is different.
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Connor Murphy
Been there, done that. Got fired from a retail job for arguing with a customer (which was stupid of me) and still got unemployment. As long as it wasn't willful misconduct or gross misconduct, you should be fine. Washington ESD is pretty reasonable about these things.
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NebulaKnight
•That gives me hope. My situation is mostly just not getting along with my boss, nothing major.
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Yara Haddad
•Same here, personality conflicts usually don't disqualify you unless there's documented harassment or something serious.
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Keisha Robinson
The most important thing is to be honest on your application. Don't try to hide why you were fired because your employer will report their side of the story too. Washington ESD will compare both versions and if they think you're lying it could hurt your case.
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NebulaKnight
•Yeah I definitely plan to be completely honest. I'm not trying to hide anything, just worried about how they'll interpret the situation.
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Paolo Conti
•Honesty is definitely the best policy. I've seen people get denied just for trying to make their situation sound better than it was.
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Esmeralda Gómez
Quick question - do you have to wait a week before you can start filing weekly claims? I remember something about a waiting period.
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Liam Murphy
•Washington eliminated the waiting week in 2021. You can start filing weekly claims right away after your initial application is approved.
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Esmeralda Gómez
•Oh good, I was thinking of the old rules. Thanks for clarifying!
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