Can I get Washington ESD unemployment if I get fired from my job?
My supervisor has been writing me up for minor things and I'm pretty sure they're building a case to fire me. If I do get terminated, will I still be able to collect unemployment benefits through Washington ESD? I've been at this job for 2 years and never had issues before this new manager started. I'm worried about paying my rent if I lose this job and can't get UI benefits. Does anyone know what the rules are for getting fired vs quitting?
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Max Reyes
Yes, you can get unemployment if you're fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD will review your case to determine if you were fired for misconduct. If it's performance issues or they're downsizing, you'll likely qualify. If it's for willful misconduct (like stealing, violence, etc.), you probably won't.
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Felicity Bud
•What counts as misconduct exactly? My write-ups are for things like being 5 minutes late or not following procedures perfectly.
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Max Reyes
•Those sound more like performance issues than misconduct. Misconduct usually involves intentional rule violations or harmful behavior. Being late occasionally or struggling with procedures typically doesn't disqualify you from UI benefits.
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Mikayla Davison
I got fired last year for attendance issues and still got approved for unemployment. Washington ESD looks at whether you willfully violated company policy. If you were trying to do your job but just weren't meeting expectations, that's different from deliberately breaking rules.
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Felicity Bud
•That's reassuring. How long did it take to get approved after you filed?
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Mikayla Davison
•About 3 weeks, but my employer didn't contest it. If yours fights the claim, it could take longer and go to adjudication.
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Sofia Ramirez
Yes, you can potentially get unemployment benefits even if you're fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD will determine if you were fired for 'misconduct' or not. If you were fired for something like poor performance, lack of skills, or personality conflicts, you'll likely qualify. If you were fired for things like theft, violence, or repeatedly breaking company rules, you probably won't qualify.
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NebulaKnight
•That's a relief to hear. It's mainly been personality conflicts with my supervisor, nothing serious like theft or anything.
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Dmitry Popov
•Yeah I got fired for being late too many times and still got approved for benefits. It took a few weeks though because they had to do an adjudication process.
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Mateo Hernandez
It depends on why you're fired. Washington ESD will approve your claim if you're fired for reasons beyond your control (like poor performance or not being a good fit) but they'll deny it if you're fired for misconduct like stealing, harassment, or willful violation of company policy.
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Nia Jackson
•What counts as misconduct exactly? My boss says I'm too slow but I'm trying my best.
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Mateo Hernandez
•Being too slow or not meeting performance standards usually isn't misconduct. That would be considered a discharge for non-misconduct reasons and you'd likely qualify for benefits.
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CosmicCruiser
I got fired last year for attendance issues and Washington ESD initially denied my claim. Had to appeal and it took forever to get through. The whole process was a nightmare trying to reach anyone at ESD.
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Aisha Khan
•Did you win your appeal? Attendance can be tricky depending on the circumstances.
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CosmicCruiser
•Yeah I eventually won because I had medical documentation for my absences. But it took 3 months to get a hearing scheduled.
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Khalil Urso
It depends on whether you're fired for misconduct or not. If you're fired for reasons beyond your control (like company downsizing, poor performance that isn't willful, or personality conflicts), you can usually get Washington ESD benefits. But if you're fired for misconduct - like stealing, fighting, or repeatedly violating company policy after warnings - you'll likely be disqualified.
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Nasira Ibanez
•What counts as misconduct exactly? My boss says I'm not meeting sales targets but I've been trying my best.
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Khalil Urso
•Poor performance by itself usually isn't misconduct unless you're deliberately not doing your job. If you're genuinely trying but just not hitting targets, that's typically not disqualifying.
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Myles Regis
I got fired last year and still got my benefits. The key is being honest on your claim about why you were terminated. Washington ESD will contact your employer to verify the reason, so don't lie about it.
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Nasira Ibanez
•How long did it take for them to decide? I'm worried about the wait time.
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Myles Regis
•Mine took about 3 weeks because they had to do an adjudication review. During that time I couldn't get any payments, which was rough.
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Brian Downey
If you do get fired and need to reach Washington ESD about your claim status, I'd recommend checking out Claimyr (claimyr.com). They helped me get through to an actual agent when I couldn't get past the busy signals. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Super helpful when you're dealing with adjudication issues.
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Jacinda Yu
•Is that legit? I've never heard of using a service like that for unemployment stuff.
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Brian Downey
•Yeah it's real. I was skeptical too but it actually worked. Way better than sitting on hold for hours just to get disconnected.
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Landon Flounder
The Washington ESD will look at whether your firing was for 'misconduct connected with work.' That's the official language they use. Things like tardiness, absenteeism, or poor performance usually don't qualify as misconduct unless there's a pattern of deliberate behavior after warnings.
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Nasira Ibanez
•That's reassuring. I've never been written up or anything, just having trouble with these new sales quotas.
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Callum Savage
•Wait, are you sure about that? I thought any firing made you ineligible.
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Landon Flounder
•@profile7 No, that's a common misconception. Lots of people who get fired still qualify for UI benefits.
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Miguel Hernández
In Washington, you can usually get unemployment if you're fired for reasons other than misconduct. The key is whether Washington ESD considers it 'misconduct' or just poor performance. If they're writing you up for minor things, that might not qualify as misconduct.
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KylieRose
•That's good to hear. What exactly counts as misconduct though? I've been a few minutes late some days but nothing major.
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Miguel Hernández
•Misconduct usually means willful violation of company rules or standards. Being late occasionally probably won't disqualify you unless it's excessive or you were warned repeatedly.
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Ava Rodriguez
The key thing is that Washington ESD has to determine whether you were fired for 'misconduct connected with work.' That's the legal standard they use. Simple poor performance usually doesn't count as misconduct. You'll need to file your claim as soon as possible after you lose your job and be completely honest about the circumstances.
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NebulaKnight
•Should I wait until I actually get fired or can I file ahead of time if I think it's coming?
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Ava Rodriguez
•You have to wait until you're actually unemployed to file. You can't file while you're still employed, even if you know you're about to be let go.
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Sasha Ivanov
i got fired last year and still got my benefits. took forever to get through to washington esd though, kept getting busy signals
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KylieRose
•How long did it take for your claim to get approved? I'm hoping I won't have to wait weeks without income.
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Sasha Ivanov
•like 3 weeks but that was because they had to do an adjudication to determine if i was eligible
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Adrian Connor
If you do get fired, file your claim immediately. Don't wait. Washington ESD will investigate by contacting both you and your employer to get both sides of the story. Document everything - save emails, write down dates of incidents, keep copies of any warnings you received.
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Aisha Jackson
•This is important advice. I waited a week to file after getting terminated and wished I'd done it right away. The sooner you file, the sooner your benefit year starts.
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Felicity Bud
•Should I start documenting things now even though I haven't been fired yet?
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Adrian Connor
•Absolutely. Keep records of your performance reviews, any coaching sessions, attendance records, anything that shows you were trying to meet job requirements.
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Ethan Taylor
If you do get fired and need to contact Washington ESD about your claim, I'd recommend checking out Claimyr at claimyr.com. They have a service that helps you actually get through to ESD agents when the phone lines are jammed. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Way better than spending hours on hold.
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Yuki Ito
•Is that legit? Sounds too good to be true with how impossible it is to reach ESD.
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Ethan Taylor
•Yeah it's real. I used it when my claim got stuck in adjudication. Saved me probably 20+ hours of failed call attempts.
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Ally Tailer
been there done that, got fired for attendance issues but still got my unemployment. took forever though and had to go through an appeal process
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Nasira Ibanez
•How was the appeal process? Sounds intimidating.
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Ally Tailer
•not too bad, just had to explain my side of the story over the phone. they mostly wanted to know if i was trying to follow company policy
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Miguel Ortiz
I went through this exact situation last year. Got fired after 6 months for 'not being a good fit' and was stressed about whether I'd get benefits. Filed my claim online and had to wait about 3 weeks for them to make a decision. The hardest part was trying to get through to someone at Washington ESD to check on my claim status - their phone lines are always jammed.
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NebulaKnight
•How did you finally get through to talk to someone? I keep hearing the phone system is impossible.
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Miguel Ortiz
•I actually found this service called Claimyr that helped me get through to an actual person at Washington ESD. You can check it out at claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. It was honestly a lifesaver because I was getting nowhere calling myself.
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Zainab Khalil
•Never heard of Claimyr before but if it actually works that would be amazing. I've been trying to reach Washington ESD for weeks about my own claim.
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Liam Murphy
Washington ESD will investigate any termination to determine eligibility. They'll contact both you and your employer to get the facts. Document everything your supervisor is doing now - dates, times, what they said. This could help your case if they claim it was misconduct.
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KylieRose
•Should I start keeping a written record of these interactions? I have some text messages from my supervisor that seem pretty unreasonable.
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Liam Murphy
•Absolutely keep records. Screenshots of texts, emails, write-ups, anything that shows the pattern of behavior. Washington ESD will want to see documentation during the adjudication process.
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Carmen Lopez
The key thing is to file your claim immediately after you're terminated. Don't wait around thinking about it. Washington ESD has a waiting week but you still need to file right away to get the process started.
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Nia Jackson
•How do I file? Is it all online now?
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Carmen Lopez
•Yes, you file online through the Washington ESD website. You'll need your Social Security number, driver's license, and employment history for the past 18 months.
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Ryder Everingham
I had trouble reaching Washington ESD when my claim went into adjudication after being fired. Spent hours on hold every day for weeks. Finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get through to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Saved me so much frustration.
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Felicity Bud
•How does that work? Is it expensive?
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Ryder Everingham
•It helps you get through the phone queue to reach a real Washington ESD agent. Much easier than trying to call yourself when you're dealing with adjudication issues.
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Lilly Curtis
•Never heard of this but sounds useful. The wait times to reach Washington ESD are insane.
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Khalil Urso
Make sure you document everything now while you're still employed. Keep records of your performance reviews, any coaching or discipline, and communications with your supervisor. This will help if Washington ESD needs to review your case.
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Nasira Ibanez
•Good idea. I should probably save my performance reviews and any emails from my boss.
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Aliyah Debovski
•Yes! I learned this the hard way. Having documentation makes a huge difference in these situations.
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Amara Okafor
I had such a hard time getting through to Washington ESD when I needed to check on my claim status. Spent hours on hold every day for weeks. Finally found this service called Claimyr that helped me get through to an actual agent. You can check it out at claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.
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KylieRose
•Is that like a paid service? I'm trying to save money in case I do lose my job.
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Amara Okafor
•It's worth looking into if you can't get through the normal way. Much better than wasting hours on hold and getting nowhere.
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CaptainAwesome
•Never heard of that but anything's gotta be better than the Washington ESD phone system. That thing is a nightmare.
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QuantumQuest
The unemployment system is so frustrating!!! I got denied at first when I was fired and had to appeal. Took MONTHS to get it sorted out. The whole process is designed to discourage people from applying I swear.
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NebulaKnight
•Oh no, what happened with your appeal? Did you eventually win?
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QuantumQuest
•Yeah I won but it was a nightmare. Had to go to a hearing and everything. Make sure you keep documentation of everything if you do get fired.
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Dmitry Popov
just make sure you file your weekly claims even while your initial claim is being reviewed. i made that mistake and it delayed my payments for weeks
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NebulaKnight
•Good tip, thanks! I didn't know you had to do weekly claims during the review process.
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Sofia Ramirez
•Yes, this is important. You need to file your weekly claims to maintain your place in line for benefits, even if your initial claim is still pending.
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Andre Dupont
ugh this whole system is so stressful. I got fired 6 months ago and STILL haven't received all my benefits because of some stupid adjudication issue they won't explain
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Mateo Hernandez
•Have you tried calling to check on the status? Sometimes adjudication gets stuck and needs a nudge.
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Andre Dupont
•tried calling literally hundreds of times. never get through. its impossible
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Ethan Taylor
•This is exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier - they can get you connected when the normal phone system fails.
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Leo Simmons
UGH the whole system is so stressful when you're already dealing with losing your job! I got fired for 'poor performance' but it was really because my manager didn't like me. Still got unemployment though. Washington ESD seems pretty fair about distinguishing between actual misconduct and just not being a good fit.
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Felicity Bud
•That's exactly my situation - I think they just want me gone. Did your employer contest your claim?
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Leo Simmons
•They tried to but Washington ESD sided with me. Had to go through the whole adjudication process but it worked out.
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Aisha Khan
Make sure you understand the difference between being fired and being laid off. Layoffs are almost always approved for unemployment. Firings depend on the reason. If your employer contests your claim, be prepared to provide documentation about your termination.
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Nia Jackson
•What kind of documentation should I keep?
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Aisha Khan
•Any emails, performance reviews, disciplinary notices, or written warnings. Also document the date and reason you were given for termination.
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Max Reyes
The key factors Washington ESD considers: Was the termination due to inability to do the job vs. unwillingness? Did you violate a known policy? Was it an isolated incident or pattern? Did you have warnings and opportunity to improve? Performance issues usually don't disqualify you from UI benefits.
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Lindsey Fry
•This is helpful. What if they fire you during your probationary period?
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Max Reyes
•Probationary period firings are often treated as performance-related, so you'd likely still qualify for unemployment benefits.
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Felicity Bud
•Good to know since I'm technically still in my extended probation period.
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QuantumQuasar
Just file and see what happens. Worst case they deny it and you appeal. I've seen people get approved for unemployment after being fired for all sorts of reasons.
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CosmicCruiser
•True, but appeals can take months. Better to understand your chances upfront.
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Miranda Singer
Here's what will happen: You'll file your claim online at secure.esd.wa.gov and answer questions about why you're no longer working. Be completely honest. Washington ESD will then contact your employer for their side of the story. If there's a dispute about misconduct, they'll make a determination.
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Nasira Ibanez
•What if my employer lies about what happened?
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Miranda Singer
•That's why documentation is so important. You can submit evidence during the adjudication process to support your version of events.
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Cass Green
•Also remember you have appeal rights if the initial decision goes against you.
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Mateo Hernandez
One important thing - even if you're fired, you still have to meet all the other requirements like being able and available for work, actively seeking employment, and completing your weekly claims. The job search requirement is 3 employer contacts per week currently.
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Nia Jackson
•Do I have to start job searching immediately or can I take a week to figure things out?
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Mateo Hernandez
•You need to be actively searching from the first week you claim benefits. Washington ESD takes the work search requirement seriously.
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Finley Garrett
Don't quit before they fire you thinking it will look better! If you quit, you'll have to prove you had 'good cause' which is actually harder than getting benefits after being fired for non-misconduct reasons.
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Nasira Ibanez
•I was actually thinking about quitting first. Thanks for the warning!
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Finley Garrett
•Yeah, that's a common mistake. Being fired for poor performance is usually better for UI eligibility than quitting.
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Yuki Tanaka
THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED!!! They'll find any excuse to deny your claim. I got fired for being 5 minutes late ONE TIME and they said it was misconduct. Had to appeal and everything. Washington ESD doesn't care about working people!!
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KylieRose
•That's terrifying. Did you win your appeal?
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Yuki Tanaka
•Eventually yes but it took 2 months and I almost lost my apartment. The whole system is designed to screw you over.
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Miguel Hernández
•Appeals can take time but many people do win them. Don't let one bad experience scare you - every case is different.
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Connor Murphy
Been there, done that. Got fired from a retail job for arguing with a customer (which was stupid of me) and still got unemployment. As long as it wasn't willful misconduct or gross misconduct, you should be fine. Washington ESD is pretty reasonable about these things.
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NebulaKnight
•That gives me hope. My situation is mostly just not getting along with my boss, nothing major.
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Yara Haddad
•Same here, personality conflicts usually don't disqualify you unless there's documented harassment or something serious.
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Keisha Robinson
The most important thing is to be honest on your application. Don't try to hide why you were fired because your employer will report their side of the story too. Washington ESD will compare both versions and if they think you're lying it could hurt your case.
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NebulaKnight
•Yeah I definitely plan to be completely honest. I'm not trying to hide anything, just worried about how they'll interpret the situation.
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Paolo Conti
•Honesty is definitely the best policy. I've seen people get denied just for trying to make their situation sound better than it was.
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Esmeralda Gómez
Quick question - do you have to wait a week before you can start filing weekly claims? I remember something about a waiting period.
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Liam Murphy
•Washington eliminated the waiting week in 2021. You can start filing weekly claims right away after your initial application is approved.
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Esmeralda Gómez
•Oh good, I was thinking of the old rules. Thanks for clarifying!
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Mikayla Davison
Just make sure you're honest when you file your claim. Washington ESD will find out what really happened anyway, so don't try to hide anything or make up stories. Better to be upfront about the circumstances.
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Felicity Bud
•What questions do they ask when you file?
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Mikayla Davison
•They ask about the reason for separation, your last day worked, any severance pay, stuff like that. Pretty straightforward online application.
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Aisha Jackson
got fired for being late too many times last month and was approved for benefits. took forever to get through to someone at Washington ESD when they needed more info though. the phone system is ridiculous
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Felicity Bud
•How many times were you late before they fired you?
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Aisha Jackson
•like 8 times in 3 months. but i had good reasons - car trouble, sick kid, etc. Washington ESD understood it wasn't intentional misconduct
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Zoe Papanikolaou
My brother got fired for being late too many times and they approved his unemployment. He had to go through adjudication but it worked out. Every case is different though.
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Jamal Wilson
•How long did his adjudication take?
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Zoe Papanikolaou
•Like 6 weeks I think? He was pretty stressed about it.
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Madison Tipne
THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN ANYWAY. I got fired for bogus reasons and it took 8 WEEKS to get my first payment because Washington ESD moves at a snail's pace. Start looking for other jobs now because even if you qualify the process is ridiculous.
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Holly Lascelles
•That's really frustrating but at least you eventually got approved. The waiting is the worst part.
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Malia Ponder
•8 weeks?! That's insane. How did you survive that long without income?
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Madison Tipne
•Credit cards and borrowing money from family. It was awful.
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Yuki Ito
The whole unemployment system is designed to be confusing and make you give up. Don't let them intimidate you - if you think you deserve benefits, fight for them.
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Mei Lin
•So true. They make everything unnecessarily complicated.
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Adrian Connor
Important: If you're fired, you can still file for unemployment, but be prepared for potential delays if your employer contests the claim. The adjudication process examines whether the termination was for misconduct connected to work. Simple performance issues rarely disqualify you from receiving UI benefits.
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Saleem Vaziri
•What happens if they contest it?
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Adrian Connor
•Washington ESD will investigate both sides and may schedule a phone hearing. You'll get to present your case and explain the circumstances of your termination.
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Felicity Bud
•That sounds intimidating but at least there's a process to appeal.
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Amina Sow
Quick question - do you have to have worked a certain amount of time to qualify? I thought there was a minimum but I can't remember what it is.
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Sofia Ramirez
•You need to have earned at least $3,925 in your base year and worked in at least two quarters. The base year is usually the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you file.
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NebulaKnight
•I've been working for 8 months so I think I should meet that requirement. Thanks for the info!
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Miguel Hernández
Make sure you apply as soon as possible after termination. Don't wait weeks to file your claim because you'll lose those weeks of potential benefits. You can apply online through the Washington ESD website.
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KylieRose
•Good point. I'll file immediately if it happens. Is there anything I should NOT say when I apply?
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Miguel Hernández
•Just be honest about what happened. Don't try to hide anything because they'll find out anyway when they contact your employer.
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Kyle Wallace
If you're in a situation where you might get fired, also start gathering your job search materials now. Even if you qualify for benefits, you'll need to actively look for work and document your job search activities. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week.
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Nasira Ibanez
•What counts as a job search activity?
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Kyle Wallace
•Applying for jobs, attending job fairs, networking events, interviews, etc. You have to log them in the system.
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Liam Fitzgerald
I've been through this process twice. First time I got denied because I didn't understand how to explain my situation properly. Second time I got approved. The key is being clear about exactly what happened and why it wasn't misconduct.
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Nia Jackson
•What did you do differently the second time?
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Liam Fitzgerald
•I was more specific about the performance issues being due to lack of training rather than willful negligence. Also had better documentation.
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Amara Nnamani
Quick tip - when you file your claim, be honest but don't volunteer information that hurts your case. Stick to the facts about why you were terminated.
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Aisha Khan
•Good advice. People sometimes over-explain and accidentally make themselves look bad.
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GalaxyGazer
I was in a similar boat last spring. Got fired after having multiple conversations with HR about performance issues. Still qualified for benefits because they couldn't prove it was willful misconduct. The adjudication took forever though and I was stressed the whole time.
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NebulaKnight
•How long did your adjudication take? I'm trying to prepare myself mentally for the wait.
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GalaxyGazer
•About 4 weeks for me, but I've heard it can take longer depending on how complex your case is and how backed up they are.
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Lilly Curtis
I was so worried about this same thing last year. Got fired for not meeting sales quotas and was sure I wouldn't qualify for unemployment. Filed anyway and got approved within a few weeks. Don't assume you won't qualify - let Washington ESD make that determination.
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Felicity Bud
•Were you nervous about filing? I keep second-guessing whether I should.
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Lilly Curtis
•Super nervous! But there's no penalty for filing and being denied. Worst case scenario is they say no, but at least you tried.
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Ryder Ross
I went through this exact same thing last spring. Got fired for not meeting performance metrics and was terrified I wouldn't get benefits. Turned out fine - Washington ESD approved my claim after about 2 weeks of review. The key is being honest about trying to do your job well.
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Nasira Ibanez
•That gives me hope. Did your employer fight the claim?
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Ryder Ross
•They responded to Washington ESD's inquiry but didn't really fight it. I think they knew it wasn't misconduct.
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Ryder Everingham
If you end up needing to speak with Washington ESD about your claim status, definitely check out Claimyr. I wasted so much time trying to get through on my own. Their system actually works and connects you to real agents who can help with adjudication questions.
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Felicity Bud
•I'll keep that in mind if I need to call them. Sounds better than sitting on hold for hours.
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Kayla Morgan
•Yeah, I've heard good things about that service. The Washington ESD phone system is brutal when you're stressed about money.
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Ethan Taylor
Another thing about Claimyr - if you do get your claim denied and need to speak with someone about the appeals process, that's another situation where being able to actually reach an ESD representative is crucial. The appeals have time limits so you can't afford to waste weeks trying to get through on the phone.
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Andre Dupont
•wish I had known about this months ago when I was dealing with my mess
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Klaus Schmidt
my cousin got fired and they made her wait like 6 weeks for benefits because of some adjudication thing. she said it was really stressful not knowing if she'd get approved
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KylieRose
•6 weeks?! That's so long. Did she eventually get back pay for those weeks?
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Klaus Schmidt
•yeah she got all the back pay once they approved her claim but it was rough financially during the wait
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Oliver Wagner
Whatever you do, don't quit before they fire you thinking it will be easier. If you quit you have to prove you had 'good cause' which is much harder than proving you weren't fired for misconduct.
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NebulaKnight
•Good point, I wasn't planning to quit but that's useful to know for the future.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•Yeah quitting makes everything more complicated. Better to let them fire you if it's going to happen anyway.
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Leo Simmons
The waiting is the worst part!! Even when you qualify, it takes time to get your first payment. Make sure you have some emergency funds if possible because there's always a waiting period.
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Felicity Bud
•How long is the waiting period usually?
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Leo Simmons
•There's a one-week waiting period for everyone, plus however long it takes to process your claim. Could be 2-4 weeks total before you see money.
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Giovanni Mancini
Don't assume you won't qualify just because you were fired. I know someone who got fired for 'attitude problems' and still got unemployment because the employer couldn't prove it was actual misconduct.
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Nia Jackson
•That's encouraging. I've been worried I won't qualify if my boss fires me.
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NebulaNinja
The waiting week is annoying but at least Washington doesn't make you wait as long as some other states. Just make sure you file your weekly claims on time even during adjudication.
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
•What happens if you miss filing a weekly claim?
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NebulaNinja
•You lose that week's benefits. They don't let you make them up later.
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Dylan Mitchell
honestly the whole thing is a crapshoot. ive seen people get approved who definitely shouldnt have and others get denied for no good reason. just apply and hope for the best
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Mateo Hernandez
•While there's some inconsistency, most decisions follow the established guidelines about misconduct vs non-misconduct terminations.
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Sofia Morales
Make sure you have all your employer information ready when you file - company name, address, phone number, dates of employment, and your supervisor's name. Washington ESD will contact them to verify your claim.
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Nia Jackson
•Will my employer know I applied for unemployment?
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Sofia Morales
•Yes, they get notified and have a chance to contest your claim if they think you shouldn't receive benefits.
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Javier Mendoza
The job search requirements are something to keep in mind too. You'll need to be actively looking for work and keeping a log of your job search activities. They can ask to see this at any time.
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NebulaKnight
•How many jobs do you have to apply to each week? I want to make sure I understand all the requirements.
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Javier Mendoza
•You need to make at least 3 job search activities per week. This can include applying for jobs, attending job fairs, networking events, etc. Keep detailed records of everything.
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Emma Thompson
I used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and it really did help me get through to Washington ESD faster. Was having issues with my claim being stuck in adjudication and couldn't reach anyone for weeks. Worth checking out if you run into phone problems.
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NebulaKnight
•I'll definitely keep that in mind if I have trouble reaching them. The stories about their phone system are pretty scary.
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Malik Davis
Just want to add that even if you do get denied initially, don't give up. The appeal process exists for a reason and lots of people win their appeals. I work in HR and I've seen plenty of cases where the initial decision gets overturned.
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NebulaKnight
•That's encouraging to hear from someone who works in HR. Thanks for the perspective!
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Isabella Santos
•How long does the appeal process usually take? I'm worried about going weeks or months without income.
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Malik Davis
•Appeals can take 6-8 weeks typically, but if you win you'll get back pay for the weeks you were waiting. Still stressful financially though.
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StarStrider
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you understand the difference between being fired and being laid off. If your employer calls it a layoff due to budget cuts or downsizing, that's much easier to get benefits for than being fired for performance issues.
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NebulaKnight
•In my case it would definitely be getting fired, not laid off. But good distinction to make!
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Ravi Gupta
The waiting can be the worst part honestly. I was so anxious during my adjudication period that I could barely sleep. Just try to stay busy with job searching and don't obsess over checking your claim status every day (easier said than done I know).
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NebulaKnight
•I can already tell I'm going to be checking constantly if this happens. Thanks for the reality check about the anxiety - at least I know it's normal.
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Freya Pedersen
Bottom line is that most people who get fired for non-serious reasons do end up qualifying for unemployment. The system isn't perfect but it's designed to help people who lose their jobs through no major fault of their own. Don't stress too much about it until you actually need to file.
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NebulaKnight
•Thanks everyone for all the helpful information. I feel much more prepared now for whatever happens. This community is really supportive!
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Omar Hassan
•Glad we could help! Come back and update us if you do end up having to file a claim. Always good to hear how things work out.
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Dmitry Popov
Last thing - if you do get approved, your benefit amount is based on your earnings in the base period, not your final salary. So even if you were demoted before being fired, it might not affect your weekly benefit amount.
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Nia Jackson
•That's actually helpful to know. Thanks for all the advice everyone.
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Mateo Hernandez
•Good luck with your situation. Remember, the worst they can do is say no, and even then you can appeal.
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James Maki
Start looking for new work immediately even while filing for unemployment. Washington ESD requires you to actively search for jobs and document your efforts. Don't wait until after you're approved to start job hunting.
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Felicity Bud
•Good point. I should probably start updating my resume now just in case.
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James Maki
•Exactly. Being proactive shows good faith and you'll need to track job search activities anyway for your weekly claims.
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Max Reyes
Bottom line: Being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits in Washington. The determining factor is whether the termination was due to misconduct. Performance issues, attendance problems, or not being a good fit usually don't constitute misconduct under Washington ESD guidelines.
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Felicity Bud
•Thank you everyone for the advice. I feel much more prepared now if this does happen.
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Jasmine Hancock
•Good luck! Remember to file immediately if you do get terminated, and don't let them intimidate you out of claiming benefits you're entitled to.
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Mikayla Davison
One more thing - if you get severance pay, it might affect when your unemployment benefits start. Make sure to report any severance to Washington ESD when you file your claim.
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Felicity Bud
•I don't think I'll get severance but good to know. Thanks for thinking of that detail.
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Cole Roush
been through this twice unfortunately. first time i was too embarrassed to file thinking i didn't deserve it. second time i filed right away and got benefits. don't let pride keep you from getting help you've paid into
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Felicity Bud
•That's a good perspective. I have been paying into the system through my taxes.
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Cole Roush
•exactly! unemployment insurance is there for situations like this. you've earned the right to use it when you need it
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Adrian Connor
Final reminder: Keep detailed records of everything leading up to any potential termination. Documentation is your best friend if your claim gets contested and goes to adjudication. Washington ESD wants to see the full picture of what happened.
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Felicity Bud
•I'm going to start keeping better records starting today. Better to have them and not need them.
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Scarlett Forster
•Smart move. I wish I had documented everything better when I went through this. It would have made the process much smoother.
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Aisha Jackson
honestly the whole thing is nerve wracking but most people who get fired for performance stuff end up getting benefits. washington esd isn't trying to deny legitimate claims, they just have to investigate when employers contest
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Felicity Bud
•That's reassuring. I keep imagining worst case scenarios.
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Aisha Jackson
•i did the same thing! turned out way better than i expected. just be honest and follow the process
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Ryder Everingham
If anyone ends up needing to reach Washington ESD agents during this process, I can't recommend Claimyr enough. Worth checking out their demo video to see how much easier it makes getting through to someone who can actually help with your specific situation.
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Felicity Bud
•I've bookmarked their site just in case. Hopefully I won't need it but good to have options.
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Arnav Bengali
The system worked for me when I got laid off last year. Even though it was technically a firing due to budget cuts, Washington ESD approved my claim quickly. Don't stress too much about the process - focus on taking care of yourself and finding your next opportunity.
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Felicity Bud
•Thank you for the encouragement. This whole situation has been really stressful but everyone's advice is helping a lot.
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Arnav Bengali
•You'll get through this. The unemployment system isn't perfect but it does provide a safety net when you need it most.
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Gianni Serpent
word of advice - if you do get fired and have trouble reaching Washington ESD by phone, try that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier. I used it when I was dealing with an adjudication issue and it saved me so much time and frustration.
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Henry Delgado
•How much does it cost though? Money's tight when you're unemployed.
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Gianni Serpent
•It's worth it if you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD. Way cheaper than missing payments because you can't get through.
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Olivia Kay
Most important thing: file your claim immediately after you're terminated. Don't wait! Your benefit year starts when you file, not when you were fired. And you can't get benefits for weeks you don't file.
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Nasira Ibanez
•Good to know. I'll file right away if it happens.
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Joshua Hellan
•Definitely this. I waited a week because I was embarrassed and lost out on that week's benefits.
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Jibriel Kohn
also remember that even if you get benefits, they might take taxes out depending on what you choose. you can have them withhold 10% for federal taxes or pay at the end of the year
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Nasira Ibanez
•I hadn't thought about taxes. Thanks for mentioning that.
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Edison Estevez
The bottom line is that being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits in Washington. Focus on doing your best at work right now, document everything, and if you do get terminated, file your claim honestly and promptly. You'll probably be fine.
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Nasira Ibanez
•Thank you everyone for all the helpful advice. Feeling much less panicked about this now.
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Emily Nguyen-Smith
•Good luck! Hope things work out with your current job situation.
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James Johnson
One more thing - if you do end up having to appeal a decision, don't try to do it alone. There are free legal aid services that can help with unemployment appeals. Much better than trying to navigate the system by yourself.
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Nasira Ibanez
•Where do you find those services?
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James Johnson
•Try contacting 211 or search for 'legal aid unemployment' in your area. Many places have free clinics.
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Sophia Rodriguez
been following this thread and just wanted to say hang in there OP. getting fired sucks but it's not the end of the world. you'll get through this whether you end up qualifying for benefits or not
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Nasira Ibanez
•Thanks for the encouragement. This whole situation has been really stressful.
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Mia Green
If you're worried about getting fired, you might also want to look into your company's policy on severance pay or COBRA health insurance. Those are separate from unemployment benefits but good to know about.
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Nasira Ibanez
•I'll check my employee handbook. Good point about health insurance especially.
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Emma Bianchi
Final thought: even if you don't qualify for regular unemployment, there might be other programs available depending on your situation. Don't give up if the first answer is no.
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Nasira Ibanez
•What kind of other programs?
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Emma Bianchi
•Things like job training programs, SNAP benefits, housing assistance. Your local WorkSource office can help connect you with resources.
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Lucas Kowalski
This thread has been super helpful. I'm in a similar situation and was wondering the same thing. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences.
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Olivia Martinez
•Same here. Nice to know I'm not the only one dealing with job insecurity right now.
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Liam Murphy
The adjudication process happens when there's a question about your eligibility. They have to investigate terminations to make sure you qualify for benefits. It's not personal - it's just part of their process to verify claims.
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KylieRose
•Is there anything I can do to speed up the adjudication process?
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Liam Murphy
•Respond quickly to any requests for information and provide thorough documentation. The more complete information they have, the faster they can make a decision.
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Aisha Patel
This happened to my friend last month. She used that Claimyr thing someone mentioned and it actually worked. She was able to talk to a Washington ESD agent the same day and get her claim status updated. Saved her a lot of stress.
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KylieRose
•That's the second person who mentioned that service. Might be worth checking out if I run into problems.
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LilMama23
•I'm skeptical of any service that charges you to call government agencies. Can't you just keep trying the regular number?
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Aisha Patel
•Sure you can keep trying, but some people don't have hours to spend on hold every day. Depends on your situation I guess.
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Dmitri Volkov
Been through this exact situation. Got fired from retail job, worried about misconduct determination. Turned out fine - got approved for UI benefits. The key is being honest about what happened and not exaggerating anything to Washington ESD.
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KylieRose
•How long did your adjudication take? I'm trying to prepare mentally for the wait.
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Dmitri Volkov
•About 3 weeks for me. Not fun but could have been worse. Just make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even during adjudication.
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Gabrielle Dubois
Wait, you can file weekly claims during adjudication? I thought you had to wait until you were approved.
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Liam Murphy
•You should continue filing weekly claims during adjudication. If you're approved, you'll get paid for those weeks. If you don't file, you lose those weeks permanently.
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Gabrielle Dubois
•Good to know! I made that mistake on my first claim and lost 2 weeks of benefits.
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Tyrone Johnson
Document everything but also remember that Washington ESD looks at the overall pattern, not just one incident. If you've been a good employee for 2 years, that works in your favor.
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KylieRose
•That's reassuring. I have good performance reviews from before this new manager started.
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Tyrone Johnson
•Keep copies of those performance reviews! They could be helpful evidence if you need to appeal a denial.
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Ingrid Larsson
Pro tip: if you do get fired, don't sign anything acknowledging misconduct. Just sign that you received the termination paperwork. What you sign could affect your UI eligibility.
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KylieRose
•I never would have thought of that. What if they pressure me to sign something?
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Ingrid Larsson
•You can always say you want to review it with someone first. Don't let them rush you into signing anything that admits wrongdoing.
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Carlos Mendoza
The whole thing is so confusing. I wish Washington ESD had better information about what counts as misconduct. Their website is pretty vague about the details.
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Liam Murphy
•The vagueness is intentional because they evaluate each case individually. But generally, misconduct means willful violation of rules or standards, not just poor performance.
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Carlos Mendoza
•That makes sense I guess. Still wish they had more specific examples though.
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Zainab Mahmoud
I tried using Claimyr when I had issues with my claim and it was actually pretty helpful. Got through to someone at Washington ESD within a few hours instead of days of trying on my own.
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KylieRose
•Seems like a lot of people have had success with that service. I'll definitely keep it in mind if I need help.
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Ava Williams
•Same here. Worth it when you're dealing with claim issues and can't get through the regular way.
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Raj Gupta
One more thing - make sure you know your job search requirements if you do get benefits. Washington ESD requires you to search for work and keep a log of your activities.
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KylieRose
•How many jobs do you have to apply for each week?
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Raj Gupta
•It varies based on your situation but usually 3 job search activities per week. Can be applications, networking, job fairs, etc.
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Lena Müller
good luck with everything. being fired sucks but at least unemployment benefits exist to help bridge the gap while you find something new
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KylieRose
•Thanks for all the advice everyone. Feeling much more prepared now if this situation does happen.
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Miguel Hernández
•Hope it works out for you. Remember to stay positive and keep good records of everything that happens.
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TechNinja
Just wanted to add that even if you do get denied initially, don't give up. The appeal process exists for a reason and many people win their appeals with the right documentation.
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KylieRose
•How long do you have to file an appeal if you get denied?
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TechNinja
•You have 30 days from the date of the determination letter to file an appeal. Don't wait - file as soon as possible.
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Keisha Thompson
This thread has been super helpful. I'm in a similar situation and was worried about the same things. Nice to know other people have gotten through this successfully.
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KylieRose
•Glad it helped! The uncertainty is the worst part but it sounds like most people do get approved if they're honest about what happened.
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