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Ethan Moore

Can I get unemployment if I get fired from my job in Washington?

My supervisor has been writing me up for minor things lately and I'm worried they might fire me soon. If I do get terminated, would I still be eligible for Washington ESD unemployment benefits? I've been at this job for 2 years and never had issues before this new manager started. I'm really stressed about potentially losing my income and not knowing if I'd qualify for UI benefits. Has anyone been in a similar situation?

Yuki Nakamura

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It depends on the reason you were fired. Washington ESD will approve unemployment if you were terminated for reasons beyond your control, but they'll deny it if you were fired for misconduct. Things like poor performance or not meeting expectations usually qualify you for benefits, but theft, violence, or repeatedly violating company policies won't.

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Ethan Moore

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That's helpful, thanks. The write-ups are for things like being 3 minutes late or not organizing my desk exactly how she wants. Nothing serious like theft or anything.

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StarSurfer

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Those sound like performance issues rather than misconduct. You should be fine for unemployment if they fire you for that stuff.

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Carmen Reyes

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I got fired last year for attendance issues and Washington ESD approved my claim. The key is that it wasn't willful misconduct - I had documented medical issues that caused my absences. When you file, they'll contact your employer to get their side of the story.

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Ethan Moore

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How long did the whole process take? I'm worried about going weeks without income while they investigate.

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Carmen Reyes

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It took about 3 weeks for them to make a decision. The hardest part was actually getting through to someone at Washington ESD to check on my claim status.

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Andre Moreau

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already worried about money if I lose my job.

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Andre Moreau

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It's worth it when you consider how much time you'd waste trying to get through normally. Plus they actually get results.

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Interesting, never heard of this before but the calling situation with Washington ESD is definitely frustrating.

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StarSurfer

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The most important thing is to document everything your manager is doing. Keep copies of all the write-ups and any communication. If they fire you and you disagree with Washington ESD's decision, you'll need that documentation for your appeal.

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Ethan Moore

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Good point. I've been keeping photos of the write-ups on my phone. Should I also document the conversations we have?

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StarSurfer

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Yes, write down dates, times, and what was said. Email yourself summaries after each interaction so you have timestamps.

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Mei Chen

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I'm going through something similar right now! My boss has been impossible since she got promoted. Got fired two weeks ago for 'attitude problems' and filed for unemployment immediately. Still waiting to hear back from Washington ESD.

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Ethan Moore

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Oh no, that's exactly what I'm afraid of. Have you been able to check your claim status at all?

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Mei Chen

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Not really, I keep trying to call but either get busy signals or get hung up on after waiting forever. It's so frustrating.

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Andre Moreau

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That's exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier - they specialize in getting you through to Washington ESD agents when you can't reach them yourself. Might be worth trying if you're stuck.

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Yuki Nakamura

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Just to clarify the misconduct standards - Washington ESD looks at whether your actions were a substantial departure from what a reasonable employee would do. Being late occasionally or not meeting arbitrary organizational standards usually doesn't meet that threshold.

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CosmicCadet

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What about if they say you had a bad attitude? That seems pretty subjective.

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Yuki Nakamura

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Exactly - 'attitude' is usually too vague to constitute misconduct unless there were specific incidents of insubordination or disrupting the workplace.

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Liam O'Connor

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The unemployment system is so broken. I got denied initially when I was fired for 'poor performance' even though I was doing fine until my supervisor decided she didn't like me. Had to appeal and it took 2 months to get resolved.

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Ethan Moore

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Two months?! That's terrifying. How did you survive financially during that time?

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Liam O'Connor

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Barely. Had to borrow money from family and use credit cards. The whole system needs to be reformed.

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Amara Adeyemi

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This is why I always tell people to file immediately even if they're not sure they qualify. Better to get the process started early.

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File as soon as you're terminated, don't wait. The process can take weeks and your benefits are backdated to when you filed, not when they approve you. Also make sure you're actively job searching even while your claim is being reviewed.

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Ethan Moore

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Do I need to keep track of my job search activities during the review period?

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Yes, Washington ESD requires you to log job search activities from day one. Use WorkSourceWA or keep your own records, but document everything.

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I was in HR for 15 years and saw tons of terminations. Unless you did something really egregious like stealing, fighting, or repeatedly no-showing, you'll probably qualify. Employers sometimes contest claims to keep their unemployment tax rates down, but that doesn't mean they'll win.

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Dylan Wright

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Is there anything someone can do to prepare if they think they might get fired?

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Document everything, save positive performance reviews, and don't give them any real reasons to fire you for cause. Keep showing up and doing your job even if the environment is toxic.

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NebulaKnight

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Been there, done that. Got canned 6 months ago for 'not being a good fit' and Washington ESD approved my claim without any issues. The adjudication took about 10 days and I started getting payments the following week.

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Ethan Moore

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That's reassuring! Did your employer contest it at all?

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NebulaKnight

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They didn't contest it. I think they knew they were being petty and didn't want to deal with the paperwork.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Make sure you understand the difference between being fired and being laid off. If they're eliminating your position due to budget cuts or restructuring, that's a layoff and you definitely qualify. If they're firing you specifically for performance or conduct, that's when it gets more complicated.

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Dmitry Popov

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What if they say it's a layoff but you suspect they're just trying to avoid paying unemployment?

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Sofia Ramirez

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Washington ESD will investigate and look at things like whether they hired someone else for a similar role right after letting you go.

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Ava Rodriguez

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Whatever you do, don't quit before they fire you thinking it'll look better. If you quit voluntarily, you won't qualify for unemployment unless you can prove it was for good cause like unsafe working conditions or significant changes to your job duties.

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Ethan Moore

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Yeah, I definitely won't quit. Even though this situation is stressful, I need to protect my right to unemployment benefits.

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Miguel Ortiz

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Smart thinking. I made the mistake of quitting once and regretted it immediately when I realized I wouldn't get benefits.

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Zainab Khalil

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If you do get fired and Washington ESD puts your claim into adjudication to investigate, don't panic. Most people in your situation end up getting approved. The process just takes time while they review everything.

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Ethan Moore

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Thanks for all the advice everyone. Feeling a bit better about the situation now, even though I still hope it doesn't come to that.

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QuantumQuest

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Keep us posted on how things go! This kind of workplace harassment is way too common.

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Andre Moreau

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And remember, if you need to reach Washington ESD about your claim status and can't get through, Claimyr at claimyr.com really does work. Sometimes you just need to talk to an actual person to get answers.

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