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Yara Campbell

Can I still get Washington ESD unemployment if I get fired from my job?

My manager has been writing me up for stupid stuff lately and I'm pretty sure they're trying to build a case to fire me. If they do fire me, can I still collect unemployment benefits through Washington ESD? I've been at this job for 2 years and never had any real problems until this new supervisor started. I'm worried they'll say it's my fault and I won't qualify for UI benefits. Does anyone know how this works?

It depends on WHY you get fired. If it's for misconduct, Washington ESD will likely deny your claim. But if it's for performance issues or not being a good fit, you should still qualify for unemployment benefits. They look at whether you were fired for willful misconduct specifically.

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What counts as misconduct exactly? They're saying I'm not following procedures but the procedures keep changing.

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Misconduct has to be willful and substantial. Just not being perfect at your job doesn't count. Changing procedures that you're trying to follow would actually help your case.

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I got fired last year for 'performance issues' and still got approved for UI. The key is that it wasn't willful misconduct - I was trying to do my job but they said I wasn't meeting expectations. Washington ESD approved my claim after about 3 weeks of adjudication.

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That's reassuring. How long did the whole process take from filing to getting your first payment?

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About 5 weeks total. The adjudication took the longest part - they had to contact my employer and get their side of the story.

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If you do get fired, file for unemployment immediately. Don't wait. Washington ESD will investigate and determine if you're eligible. Document everything - save emails, write down what your supervisor says, keep copies of any write-ups. You'll need this if they contest your claim.

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Should I start documenting stuff now even though I haven't been fired yet?

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Absolutely. Start keeping a log of interactions with your supervisor, any changing expectations, unclear instructions, etc. This will help your case if it comes to that.

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Good advice. I wish I had documented more when I was having issues with my old boss.

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How does that work exactly? I'm worried I'll need to talk to someone at Washington ESD if this gets complicated.

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You just go to claimyr.com and they help you get through to an actual Washington ESD agent. Saved me so much time and frustration when I was dealing with my adjudication.

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THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO ME!!! New manager came in and started nitpicking everything I did. Wrote me up for things that were never problems before. Finally fired me after 3 years of good reviews. I was so scared I wouldn't get benefits but Washington ESD approved my claim. The old reviews and sudden change in write-ups actually helped my case.

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That's exactly what's happening to me! Did your employer fight the claim?

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They tried but all my previous good reviews showed it wasn't willful misconduct on my part. Document everything and don't let them intimidate you.

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Same thing happened to my sister. New boss wanted to bring in their own people so they manufactured reasons to fire existing employees.

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Here's what Washington ESD looks for in misconduct cases: Was it willful? Was it substantial? Was it connected to your work? Simply not being good enough at your job doesn't qualify as misconduct. They need to prove you deliberately violated rules or policies.

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What if they say I was insubordinate? My supervisor keeps giving me conflicting instructions and then gets mad when I ask for clarification.

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Asking for clarification isn't insubordination. That's actually being responsible. Keep records of the conflicting instructions if you can.

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got fired 6 months ago for 'attitude problems' - still got unemployment. employer contested it but washington esd sided with me. just be honest when you file and provide documentation

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What kind of documentation did you provide?

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emails, performance reviews, witness statements from coworkers who saw what was happening

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Important: If you get fired, your employer will likely contest your unemployment claim. This is standard practice for them. Don't panic if this happens - Washington ESD will conduct an investigation and make a determination based on the facts. Just be truthful and provide any documentation you have.

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How long does the investigation take usually?

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Can take anywhere from 2-6 weeks depending on how complex the case is. They'll contact both you and your employer to get statements.

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Mine took 4 weeks but it was worth the wait. Got approved and received all my back pay.

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One thing to remember - even if they fire you, you still have to meet the other requirements for unemployment. You need to be able and available for work, actively seeking employment, etc. The firing part is just one piece of the eligibility puzzle.

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Good point. I'm definitely ready to work and will be actively looking if this happens.

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My husband went through this exact situation. Got fired after new management came in and changed everything. He was so worried about getting unemployment but it turned out fine. Washington ESD could see the pattern - multiple long-term employees getting fired right after management changed. They approved his claim pretty quickly.

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That's encouraging. Are other people at your company getting written up too?

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That might actually help your case if there's a pattern of the new supervisor targeting multiple employees.

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Just want to add - if you do need to contact Washington ESD about your claim, don't waste time trying to call during peak hours. The phone lines are always jammed. I found Claimyr super helpful for getting through to an actual person when I needed to check on my adjudication status. Much better than the endless hold music.

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Is that service legit? I'm always suspicious of third-party services for government stuff.

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Yeah it's legit. They just help you get through the phone system faster. Check out their demo video if you want to see how it works.

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UPDATE: I just wanted to say that documenting everything was the best advice I got. When my employer contested my claim, I had a folder full of emails showing the changing expectations and unclear instructions. Washington ESD took one look at it and approved my benefits. Don't let them scare you - know your rights!

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This gives me hope. I'm going to start keeping better records of everything starting today.

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Smart move. I wish I had done this when I was having problems at my old job.

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been through this twice unfortunately. first time i got benefits, second time i didn't because i actually did mess up pretty bad. it really depends on the specific circumstances. but if you're genuinely trying to do your job and they're just being unreasonable, you should be fine

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What was different about the second time?

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i was late too many times and ignored warnings. that was clear misconduct. your situation sounds different though

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Final piece of advice - if you do get fired and file for unemployment, don't quit first thinking it will look better. Quitting makes you ineligible for benefits unless you have good cause. Getting fired for non-misconduct reasons is actually better for your unemployment claim than quitting.

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I was actually thinking about quitting before they fire me. I'm glad you mentioned this!

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Yeah, don't do that. Let them fire you if that's what they're planning. As long as it's not for misconduct, you'll likely qualify for benefits.

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This is so important. I quit my last job because I thought it would look better and then couldn't get unemployment. Big mistake.

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Remember that Washington ESD defines misconduct very specifically. It has to be a willful violation of company policy or deliberate disregard of your employer's interests. Poor performance, inability to meet expectations, or personality conflicts usually don't qualify as misconduct. You should be fine if you're genuinely trying to do your job.

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Thank you everyone for all the advice. This has been really helpful and I feel much more confident about the situation now.

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Good luck! Hope things work out for you either way.

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One more thing - make sure you apply for unemployment benefits online through the Washington ESD website as soon as possible after being fired. There's a waiting period anyway, so don't delay. Even if you're not sure you'll qualify, it's better to apply and find out than to wait and lose potential benefits.

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Good to know. I bookmarked the Washington ESD site just in case.

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Smart thinking ahead. Hope you don't need it but better to be prepared.

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Last thought on this - if you do end up needing to speak with Washington ESD during the process and can't get through on the phone, definitely check out that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier. Saved me hours of frustration when I was trying to get updates on my claim status. The peace of mind was worth it.

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I'll keep that in mind. Hopefully I won't need it but good to know it's there if I do.

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just want to say this thread has been super helpful. i'm in a similar situation and was freaking out about it. feeling a lot better now knowing that getting fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits

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Glad it helped you too! This community is great for getting real information.

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Same here. Was worried about this exact scenario.

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For what it's worth, I've been on both sides of this as a former HR person. Most companies will contest unemployment claims automatically, but Washington ESD is pretty fair about investigating the actual facts. If you weren't willfully violating policies or being deliberately insubordinate, you'll likely be approved for benefits.

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That's really reassuring coming from someone who worked in HR. Thank you!

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Good to get the HR perspective on this. Thanks for sharing.

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Bottom line - don't let them intimidate you. If you get fired and you weren't committing misconduct, apply for unemployment benefits. Worst case scenario, they deny your claim and you appeal. Best case, you get approved and have some income while you look for a new job. Either way, you're not worse off for trying.

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You're absolutely right. I'm not going to let them scare me into not applying if it comes to that. Thanks everyone for all the great advice and support!

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