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Hannah White

Can I apply for Washington ESD unemployment if I get fired from my job?

My supervisor has been giving me a really hard time lately and I'm worried they might fire me soon. If that happens, would I still be able to file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD? I've heard conflicting things about whether you can get UI if you're terminated versus if you quit. I've been working at this company for almost 2 years and really need to know what my options would be if the worst happens.

Yes, you can definitely apply for unemployment if you're fired, but it depends on WHY you were fired. If it's for misconduct or violating company policy, Washington ESD might deny your claim. But if it's for performance issues, company restructuring, or personality conflicts, you should be eligible.

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That's a relief to hear. What exactly counts as misconduct though? I'm worried they might try to make up some excuse.

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Misconduct usually means things like stealing, being drunk at work, or deliberately violating clear company rules. Poor performance or not getting along with your boss typically doesn't count as misconduct.

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I got fired last year and was able to collect unemployment no problem. The key is to file your claim right away through the Washington ESD website. Don't wait around hoping things will work out.

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How long did it take for your claim to get approved? I'm worried about paying bills if there's a long delay.

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Mine took about 3 weeks because they had to do an adjudication to determine if I was eligible. But I got backpay for those weeks once it was approved.

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If you do get fired and your employer contests your unemployment claim, that's when things can get complicated. I had this happen and couldn't get through to Washington ESD for weeks to explain my side of the story. Finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me reach an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Interesting, I've never heard of that service. Did it actually help you get through to someone?

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Yeah, saved me hours of calling and getting busy signals. Got connected to a real person who could look at my case and explain the adjudication process.

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How much does something like that cost? Seems like you shouldn't have to pay extra just to talk to Washington ESD.

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I agree it's frustrating that we need workarounds, but when you're facing bills and can't get answers any other way, it's worth it for the peace of mind.

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The unemployment system in this state is a joke. They make it so hard to get through to anyone and then question every little detail about why you lost your job. I swear they want people to just give up and not claim benefits.

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I feel you on this. The phone system is terrible and the website crashes half the time when you're trying to file your weekly claims.

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It's definitely frustrating, but the system exists for a reason. They have to verify eligibility to prevent fraud. Just make sure you document everything if you do get fired.

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Make sure you understand the difference between being fired and being laid off. If they say it's a layoff due to business reasons, that's usually a slam dunk for unemployment. If they say you're fired for cause, that's when you might have to fight for your benefits.

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Good point. I should probably start documenting everything that's happening at work just in case.

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Absolutely. Keep emails, write down dates and times of incidents. If it goes to an appeal hearing, you'll want all that documentation.

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been there done that, got fired from my last job and collected unemployment for 6 months while looking for something new. just dont lie on your application about why you were terminated

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Did they contact your employer to verify what happened?

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yeah they sent some kind of form to HR asking about the termination. my employer didnt contest it so my claim went through pretty quick

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One thing to keep in mind is that even if you're initially denied, you can always appeal the decision. I've seen plenty of cases where people won their appeals even after being denied initially by Washington ESD.

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How long do you have to file an appeal if they deny your claim?

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You have 30 days from the date of the determination letter to file your appeal. Don't miss that deadline or you'll lose your right to appeal.

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This is all really helpful information. I hope I don't need it but good to know my options.

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My brother got fired for attendance issues and still got unemployment. Apparently missing work due to transportation problems or childcare issues doesn't count as misconduct if you weren't deliberately skipping work.

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That's good to know. I always thought any firing would disqualify you from benefits.

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It really depends on the specific circumstances. Washington ESD looks at whether the employee's actions were willful and work-related.

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Whatever you do, file your claim immediately if you get fired. Don't wait to see if you can find another job quickly. You can always stop claiming if you find work, but there's a waiting period before benefits start.

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How long is the waiting period usually?

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There used to be a one week waiting period but I think they eliminated that during COVID. Not sure if it's back now though.

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The waiting week is still eliminated as of 2025. Benefits start from your first week of eligibility if approved.

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I used that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier when I had issues with my claim being stuck in adjudication. Worked pretty well actually, got me connected to someone who could explain what was holding things up.

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How does it work exactly? Do they just call for you or something?

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They have some system that gets you through the phone queue faster. I watched their demo video and it seemed legit so I tried it when I was desperate.

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The most important thing is to be honest on your unemployment application. If they find out you lied about why you were fired, they can disqualify you and even make you pay back benefits.

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That makes sense. Better to be upfront about everything from the start.

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Exactly. And remember you'll have to do job searches every week to keep getting benefits. Keep track of where you apply.

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ugh this whole thread is making me anxious about my own job situation. why is everything so complicated when you're already stressed about losing income??

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I know it seems overwhelming, but the system is there to help. Just take it one step at a time if you need to file a claim.

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Same here. At least now I know it's possible to get benefits even if fired, depending on the circumstances.

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Pro tip: if you get fired, ask HR for a copy of your personnel file and any documentation about the termination. This can help if your employer tries to contest your unemployment claim later.

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That's smart. I wouldn't have thought to ask for that stuff.

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Most people don't know they have a right to see their personnel file. In Washington state, employers have to provide it if you request it.

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I've been through this whole process twice now and the key is just to stay persistent. Even if your initial claim gets denied, don't give up. The appeals process exists for a reason.

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Did you win your appeals both times?

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Won one, lost one. The one I lost was because I actually did violate a clear company policy, so that was fair. The other was just a personality conflict with my manager.

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For what it's worth, most employers don't bother contesting unemployment claims unless it was a really egregious firing. It's too much hassle for them and costs money in legal fees.

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That's reassuring. Hopefully if it comes to that, my company won't fight it.

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Yeah, unless you stole something or did something really bad, most companies just let it go. They've got bigger things to worry about.

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