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Bruno Simmons

If I get fired can I claim unemployment benefits in Washington state?

My boss has been giving me a hard time lately and I'm worried I might get terminated soon. If I do get fired, would I be able to file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD? I've been working at this job for about 8 months and paying into the system. I'm not sure what the rules are about getting fired vs quitting - does it matter why you got fired? I really need to know my options in case this goes south.

Yes, you can generally claim unemployment if you're fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD will approve your claim unless you were terminated for 'misconduct connected with work.' Things like tardiness, poor performance, or personality conflicts usually don't count as misconduct. However, if you're fired for theft, violence, or willful violation of company policy, that could disqualify you.

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That's a relief to hear. My situation is more about personality conflicts with my manager, not anything serious like theft or anything.

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Just make sure you document everything in case they try to claim it was misconduct when it really wasn't.

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I went through this exact situation last year. Got fired from my retail job and was terrified I wouldn't qualify for benefits. But Washington ESD approved my claim because being a 'bad fit' isn't misconduct. The key is being honest on your application about what happened.

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How long did it take for them to make a decision on your claim?

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About 2 weeks for the initial determination, but then my employer contested it so it went to adjudication for another month.

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Ugh, the adjudication process is such a nightmare. I've been stuck in that limbo before.

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If you do get fired and need to reach Washington ESD about your claim status, I highly recommend checking out Claimyr. I discovered it when I was struggling to get through to ESD after being terminated. It's a service that helps you connect with ESD agents by phone - there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Way better than spending hours on hold or getting hung up on.

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Never heard of that service before. Is it legit? I'm always suspicious of third-party services.

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Yeah it's totally legitimate. Check out claimyr.com - they just help you get through the phone system more efficiently. Saved me so much frustration when I needed to talk to someone about my claim.

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THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS! They'll find any excuse to deny your claim and then make you jump through hoops to appeal. I got fired for 'attitude problems' which is just code for standing up for myself, and they STILL tried to deny my benefits initially.

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While the system can be frustrating, most terminations that aren't for serious misconduct do result in approved claims. It's important not to let fear prevent you from filing.

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Easy for you to say when you haven't been through the bureaucratic nightmare I dealt with.

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I get your frustration but spreading doom and gloom doesn't help anyone. The majority of claims get approved.

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Make sure you file your claim as soon as possible after termination. There's no waiting period in Washington - you can file the same day you lose your job. Don't delay because benefits are calculated from the date you file, not when you lost the job.

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Good to know! I didn't realize you could file immediately. I thought there was some kind of waiting period.

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Yeah that's a common misconception. File ASAP and start your weekly claims right away.

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Just went through this myself. Got terminated in November and was approved for benefits within two weeks. The key is being completely honest about what happened. Don't try to sugarcoat it or make up stories - just tell the truth about the circumstances.

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That's encouraging! Were you nervous about the whole process?

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Definitely nervous at first, but the process was actually pretty straightforward once I understood what they were looking for.

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Same experience here. The anxiety is usually worse than the actual process.

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Whatever you do, don't quit instead of getting fired thinking it'll look better. If you quit voluntarily, you have to prove 'good cause' which is actually harder than getting approved after being fired for non-misconduct reasons.

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I was actually wondering about that. So it's better to get fired than to quit?

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For unemployment purposes, yes. Unless you have documented good cause for quitting (like unsafe working conditions), being fired for non-misconduct is easier to get approved.

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Exactly right. The burden of proof is different for voluntary vs involuntary separation.

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Been there done that multiple times unfortunately lol. Each time I filed within hours of getting canned and never had issues getting approved. Just be prepared for your employer to potentially contest the claim - they often do it automatically even when they know you'll win.

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Why would they contest it if they know I'll win? That seems pointless.

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Sometimes it's just their policy, sometimes they're hoping you won't respond to the contest. Don't let it intimidate you - just respond honestly if they do.

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I remember being so stressed about this when I got let go from my office job. Turns out Washington ESD is actually pretty reasonable about these situations. As long as you weren't stealing or doing something truly egregious, you'll likely be fine.

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That makes me feel a lot better. I've been losing sleep over this possibility.

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Don't stress too much about it. Focus on doing your best at work and if the worst happens, you have options.

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One thing to keep in mind - if you think you might get fired, start looking for other jobs now. Even if you get unemployment, it's only a percentage of your previous wages and there are job search requirements you'll need to meet.

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Good point. I should probably update my resume just in case.

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Definitely start networking and applying places. Unemployment is temporary assistance, not a long-term solution.

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Yeah the job search requirements are no joke. You have to log your activities and be actively seeking work.

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When I got terminated, I had so many questions about the process and couldn't get through to ESD on the phone. That's when someone told me about Claimyr - it's a service that helps you actually reach ESD agents instead of sitting on hold forever. Really wish I'd known about it sooner. Check out their website at claimyr.com if you end up needing to talk to someone at ESD.

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Multiple people have mentioned this service now. Seems like it might be worth knowing about just in case.

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I used Claimyr too when I had issues with my weekly claims. Much better than the usual phone runaround with ESD.

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Here's what will happen if you get fired: 1) File your claim immediately online 2) Washington ESD will contact your employer 3) They'll make a determination within 1-3 weeks 4) If approved, you'll start receiving benefits 5) If contested, it goes to adjudication. The whole process is actually pretty systematic once you understand it.

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Thanks for breaking it down step by step. This helps me understand what to expect.

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This is exactly how it went for me when I got laid off. Very straightforward process.

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Don't forget you'll also need to register with WorkSource Washington and meet their job search requirements once you start receiving benefits. It's part of maintaining eligibility for continued payments.

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I haven't heard of WorkSource Washington before. Is that mandatory?

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Yes, it's required for most people receiving unemployment benefits. You'll get information about it when your claim is approved.

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There are some exceptions to the WorkSource requirement, but they're pretty limited. Most people do have to register and participate.

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The most important thing is to be completely truthful in your application. Don't embellish or downplay what happened - just stick to the facts. Washington ESD has heard every story before and they're pretty good at sorting out what really happened.

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Yeah, honesty seems to be the consistent advice I'm getting. I'll definitely stick to just the facts if this happens.

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Absolutely. Any inconsistencies between your story and your employer's story will just create more problems and delays.

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Got fired from my warehouse job last spring for 'performance issues' and still got approved for benefits. As long as you were trying to do your job and weren't willfully screwing up, you should be okay. Performance problems and personality conflicts aren't misconduct in Washington's eyes.

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That's reassuring to hear from someone who actually went through it recently.

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Same thing happened to my brother. Got fired for not meeting sales quotas but still qualified for unemployment.

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If you end up in adjudication and need to speak with someone at ESD about your case, try using Claimyr. I found out about it from a coworker and it saved me hours of trying to get through their phone system. They have a video demo that shows exactly how it works - https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ. Really helpful when you actually need to talk to a human being about your claim.

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I'll definitely keep that in mind if I need to contact ESD. Thanks for the tip and the video link.

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Yeah, their regular phone system is basically impossible to navigate. Good to know there are alternatives.

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Bottom line - unless you did something seriously wrong, you'll probably qualify for benefits if you get fired. Don't let the fear of not qualifying prevent you from filing. The worst they can do is say no, and then you can appeal if you disagree with their decision.

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You're right, I shouldn't let anxiety about the unknown stop me from filing if I need to. Thanks everyone for all the helpful information!

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Glad we could help ease your mind a bit. Hope your work situation improves, but now you know you have options if it doesn't.

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