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Paolo Rizzo

Washington ESD unemployment if I get fired from my job - can I collect benefits?

My boss has been really unhappy with my performance lately and I'm worried I might get terminated soon. If that happens, would I be eligible for Washington ESD unemployment benefits? I've been at this job for about 2 years and have never filed for unemployment before. I know there are different rules depending on why you lose your job but I'm not sure what applies to being fired. Can anyone explain how this works with Washington ESD?

It depends on the reason you were fired. If it's for misconduct (like stealing, fighting, or repeatedly violating company policy), Washington ESD will likely deny your claim. But if it's for poor performance or just not being a good fit, you can usually still collect unemployment benefits. The key is whether it was 'misconduct' or just regular job separation.

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That's helpful, thank you. It would definitely be performance-related, not misconduct. I'm just not meeting their sales targets.

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Performance issues usually qualify unless they can prove you were deliberately not doing your job.

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Washington ESD looks at whether you were fired for 'misconduct connected with work.' Poor performance by itself usually doesn't count as misconduct. You'll need to file your claim right away and be honest about why you were terminated. They'll contact your employer to get their side of the story during the adjudication process.

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How long does the adjudication process usually take? I'm worried about paying bills if there's a long delay.

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It can take 2-6 weeks depending on how complex your case is. Make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even during adjudication.

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Never heard of that but sounds interesting. Washington ESD phone system is definitely frustrating.

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Just make sure you document everything about your performance issues. If your employer tries to claim it was misconduct, you'll want evidence that it was just poor performance and not deliberate.

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Good point. I have all my performance reviews and emails about the sales targets I missed.

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That documentation will be really helpful if Washington ESD has questions during adjudication.

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ugh this whole system is so confusing. why cant they just make it simple - if you lose your job you get benefits! having to worry about misconduct vs performance while youre already stressed about losing income is ridiculous

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I understand the frustration, but they have to prevent fraud somehow. The system works for most people who qualify.

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The rules exist for a reason but I agree the process could be clearer for people filing claims.

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What if they fire you right before you were going to quit? I was thinking about giving notice but now I'm wondering if I should wait and see if they let me go first.

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If you quit voluntarily, it's much harder to get unemployment. Getting fired for performance is usually better than quitting.

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Yeah that's exactly why I'm asking. I don't want to quit and lose my chance at benefits.

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Been dealing with Washington ESD for years and the main thing is being honest on your application. If you lie about why you were terminated and they find out during the fact-finding interview, you'll definitely get denied.

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What's a fact-finding interview? Is that part of adjudication?

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Yes, if there are questions about your separation they'll schedule a phone interview with you and potentially your employer to get the facts.

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Those interviews are usually pretty straightforward if you're telling the truth about what happened.

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Make sure you apply right away after you're terminated. There's a waiting period before benefits start and you don't want to delay that any longer than necessary.

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How soon should I apply? Same day or can I wait a few days?

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I'd do it within a day or two max. The sooner the better to get your claim processing.

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Another thing - once you file, you'll need to do your weekly claims every week and meet the job search requirements. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week. Don't skip this or you'll lose your benefits.

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What counts as job search activities? Just applying to jobs?

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Applying, networking events, career fairs, updating your resume with a professional. Check the Washington ESD website for the full list.

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I got fired for performance issues 6 months ago and had no problems getting approved. Took about 3 weeks for adjudication to finish but got all my back pay once it was approved. Just be patient with the process.

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That's reassuring to hear. Did your employer contest your claim?

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They responded to Washington ESD's inquiry but didn't fight it since it really was just performance and not misconduct.

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what if you get fired but they say its for attendance issues? is that misconduct or performance?

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Attendance can be tricky. If it's due to illness or other valid reasons, usually not misconduct. If it's just repeatedly not showing up without excuse, that could be misconduct.

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Washington ESD looks at the specific circumstances around attendance issues. Each case is different.

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Pro tip: when you file your claim, write down exactly what you put for the reason you lost your job. If they call you for a fact-finding interview weeks later, you want to be consistent with what you originally reported.

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Smart advice. I'll definitely keep notes of everything I submit.

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Yes, consistency is key. Any major discrepancies will raise red flags during adjudication.

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The worst part is not knowing how long you'll be waiting for an answer. I was in limbo for a month not knowing if I'd get benefits or not. Made it really hard to plan finances.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. Did you try calling to check on your claim status?

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Tried calling constantly but could never get through. Phone lines are always jammed.

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That's where Claimyr really helped me. Could actually talk to someone instead of getting busy signals all day.

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Question about the weekly benefit amount - is it based on your last job's salary or an average over time?

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Washington ESD calculates it based on your earnings in your base period, which is usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you file.

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So if I've been at this job for 2 years, it would be based on that income?

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Yes, assuming you haven't had other jobs during that time. They look at all covered employment in your base period.

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Make sure your employer doesn't try to make you quit instead of firing you. Some companies will pressure you to resign to avoid paying into the unemployment system. Don't fall for it.

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I haven't thought about that. How can I tell if they're trying to do that?

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If they start making your work environment unbearable or give you impossible tasks, they might be trying to force you to quit.

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That's called constructive dismissal and you can still potentially get benefits if you can prove it.

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Does anyone know if you can appeal if Washington ESD denies your claim for misconduct?

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Yes, you have 30 days from the date of the determination to file an appeal. You'll get a hearing before an administrative law judge.

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Good to know there are options if the initial decision goes wrong.

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i got fired for performance last year and it was fine. took like 4 weeks but got approved. dont stress too much about it if its really just performance stuff

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Thanks, that helps ease my anxiety about it.

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Same experience here. Performance firing usually isn't a problem for unemployment.

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One thing to remember is you'll need to be actively looking for work and able to accept work. If you have any restrictions that limit your job search, that could affect your benefits.

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What kind of restrictions would be a problem?

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Like if you can only work certain hours or refuse jobs that pay less than what you made before. You have to be reasonably available for work.

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Though you can refuse jobs that pay significantly less than your previous wage, especially early in your unemployment period.

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Just went through the whole process and got my first payment this week. The key is just being honest and patient. Washington ESD gets thousands of claims so everything takes time.

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How long from filing to first payment?

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About 5 weeks total including the waiting week and adjudication time.

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If you do get denied initially, don't give up. I know someone who won their appeal even though Washington ESD originally said it was misconduct. Sometimes the initial review doesn't get the full picture.

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That's encouraging. I feel a lot better about this whole situation now.

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Yeah and if you need help during the appeals process, services like Claimyr can help you reach the right people at Washington ESD to get answers.

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The appeals process gives you a fair chance to present your case with all the details.

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