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Mei Liu

Washington ESD unemployment benefits after being fired - can you file?

Got terminated from my job last week and I'm really confused about whether I can even apply for unemployment benefits. My manager said it was due to performance issues but I feel like they were looking for reasons to let me go. I've been working for 2 years at this company and never had any formal write-ups. Can you still file for Washington ESD unemployment if you got fired? I heard it depends on the reason but I'm not sure what qualifies.

Yes, you can definitely file for unemployment even if you were fired! The key is whether you were terminated for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless it was willful or you ignored direct instructions. Washington ESD will investigate and make the determination.

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Mei Liu

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That's reassuring to hear. They mentioned performance but never gave me any formal warnings. Should I mention that when I file?

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Absolutely mention the lack of formal warnings. Document everything you remember about the termination conversation too.

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Amara Chukwu

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I was in a similar situation last year. Filed right away even though I was fired. Washington ESD approved my claim after they contacted my employer. The whole process took about 3 weeks because they had to do an adjudication to determine if I was eligible.

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Mei Liu

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How long did the adjudication take? I'm worried about bills piling up while they investigate.

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Amara Chukwu

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Mine took about 2 weeks. They called both me and my former employer to get both sides of the story.

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I'm dealing with adjudication right now and it's been 4 weeks! Can't get through to anyone at Washington ESD to check the status.

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NeonNova

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The Washington ESD website has a good explanation of what constitutes misconduct. Generally, being late occasionally, making honest mistakes, or not meeting performance standards aren't considered misconduct. But things like theft, fighting, or deliberately violating company policy would be.

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Mei Liu

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Where exactly on the Washington ESD site can I find this information? I want to read up on it before I file.

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NeonNova

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Check the eligibility section on esd.wa.gov. They have detailed examples of what qualifies as misconduct vs what doesn't.

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whatever you do file immediately!! Even if your claim gets denied initially you can appeal. Don't wait thinking you're not eligible because you might miss out on benefits you're actually entitled to

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Mei Liu

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Good point. I was hesitating because I wasn't sure, but I'll file this weekend.

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Yes definitely file ASAP! Your benefit year starts from when you file, not when you became unemployed.

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I got fired for attendance issues (was having car trouble) and still got approved for unemployment. Washington ESD looks at whether the termination was your fault or due to circumstances beyond your control. Performance issues are usually not considered misconduct.

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Mei Liu

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That gives me hope. My performance issues were mainly due to lack of proper training on new software they implemented.

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That sounds like a valid reason. Make sure to mention the training issue when you file your claim.

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Ava Thompson

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Be prepared for your employer to contest your claim though. Mine did and it delayed everything by weeks. They'll get a notice from Washington ESD asking about the termination and some employers will fight it even if they don't have a good case.

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Mei Liu

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What happens if they contest it? Do I still get benefits while it's being disputed?

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Ava Thompson

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Usually you won't get paid until the dispute is resolved. That's why it's important to file right away.

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Not always true - sometimes Washington ESD will pay you while the appeal is pending if the initial determination was in your favor.

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Miguel Ramos

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The system is so messed up. I was laid off due to budget cuts and it still took 3 weeks to get my first payment. Can't imagine how long it takes when there's a dispute over misconduct.

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At least you got approved! I'm still waiting after 6 weeks for them to make a decision on my misconduct case.

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Miguel Ramos

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Have you tried calling them? I know it's nearly impossible to get through but sometimes you can get updates.

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StarSailor

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Pro tip: when you file, be completely honest about why you were terminated. Don't try to sugarcoat it or leave out details. Washington ESD will find out the truth anyway when they contact your employer, and being dishonest can hurt your case.

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Mei Liu

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Should I mention that I think they were looking for reasons to fire me? Or just stick to what they officially told me?

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StarSailor

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Stick to the facts. You can mention your perspective but focus on what actually happened and what you were told.

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I used Claimyr when I needed to check on my misconduct determination. Took forever to get through on my own but with their service I spoke to someone within 30 minutes. Really helped me understand where my case stood.

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Yara Sabbagh

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How much does it cost? I'm barely scraping by as it is.

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It's worth checking out their site for details. For me it was worth it to finally get answers instead of calling all day with no luck.

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Remember you also need to meet the work search requirements even during adjudication. Keep applying for jobs and logging them in your WorkSourceWA account. Don't slack off on job searching just because your claim is pending.

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Mei Liu

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Do I need to start the job search activities immediately after filing or can I wait until my claim is approved?

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Start immediately. You need to be able and available for work and actively seeking employment from day one.

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Paolo Rizzo

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my cousin got fired for being late too many times and they still approved her unemployment. depends on if they gave you warnings and chances to improve. sounds like your situation might be similar

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Mei Liu

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Yeah I never got any formal warnings. They just called me in one day and said my performance wasn't meeting expectations.

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QuantumQuest

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That doesn't sound like misconduct to me. You should definitely file.

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Amina Sy

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Don't let them intimidate you into not filing. Even if you're not sure about eligibility, let Washington ESD make that determination. Worst case scenario is they deny your claim, but at least you tried. Best case is you get the benefits you need while looking for a new job.

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Mei Liu

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You're right. I'm going to file this afternoon. Thanks everyone for the advice and encouragement!

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Good luck! Keep us updated on how it goes.

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One more thing - if you do get denied initially, don't give up. The appeal process exists for a reason and many people win their appeals even after being denied. I've seen cases where the initial determination was wrong and got overturned.

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Mei Liu

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How long do you have to file an appeal if you get denied?

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You have 30 days from the date of the determination letter to file an appeal. Don't wait until the last minute though.

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And if you need help understanding the appeal process, those Claimyr folks might be able to help explain your options when you talk to a Washington ESD agent.

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