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Yuki Sato

Can you file unemployment if you are fired from your job in Washington state?

I got terminated from my job last week and I'm not sure if I can even apply for unemployment benefits. My manager said I was let go due to performance issues but I think it was really because I complained about safety violations at our warehouse. I've been working there for 2 years and never had any write-ups until this month. Can I still file with Washington ESD if I was fired? I'm really confused about what qualifies and what doesn't.

Yes, you can absolutely file for unemployment even if you were fired! Washington ESD will review your case to determine if the termination was for misconduct or not. Performance issues usually don't disqualify you unless it was willful misconduct. You should definitely apply and let them make the determination.

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Thank you! I wasn't sure if being fired automatically disqualified me. Should I mention the safety complaint issue when I file?

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Yes, absolutely mention that. If you were fired for complaining about safety violations, that could actually strengthen your case. Washington has strong protections for whistleblowers.

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I went through something similar last year. Got fired for 'attendance issues' but it was really retaliation. Filed anyway and got approved after adjudication. The key is being honest about everything when you file your initial claim.

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How long did the adjudication process take? I'm worried about how I'll pay bills while waiting.

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Mine took about 3 weeks. It felt like forever but once approved, I got back pay for the waiting period. Definitely file as soon as possible to get the process started.

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File immediately! Don't wait. Even if you're not sure you qualify, let Washington ESD make that decision. The worst they can do is deny you, but if you don't file at all you definitely won't get benefits. Performance issues are usually not considered misconduct unless you were deliberately doing something wrong.

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That makes sense. I'll file today. Do I need any specific documentation from my employer?

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You don't need anything from your employer to file. Washington ESD will contact them directly for their side of the story. Just make sure you have your employment dates and reason for separation ready.

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Mei Liu

ugh the whole system is so confusing. i got fired 3 months ago and still fighting it. they said i was fired for cause but it was total BS. still waiting on my appeal hearing

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Sorry to hear that. Are you getting any benefits while waiting for the appeal?

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Mei Liu

nope, nothing until the appeal is decided. thats why i said file right away and dont wait around like i did

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One thing to keep in mind - if your employer contests your claim (which they probably will), you might go into adjudication. This means Washington ESD will investigate both sides of the story before making a decision. Don't panic if this happens, it's normal for termination cases.

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What happens during adjudication? Do I need to provide evidence or anything?

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They'll likely call you for a phone interview to get your side of the story. Be honest and stick to the facts. If you have any documentation supporting your case, have it ready.

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I'm going through adjudication right now for a similar situation. Been waiting 4 weeks so far. The uncertainty is killing me but I've heard from others that if you were fired for performance vs misconduct, you usually get approved eventually.

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4 weeks is so long! Have you tried calling to check on the status?

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Tried calling dozens of times. Either busy signal or get disconnected after waiting on hold. It's incredibly frustrating.

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That's exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier. When I couldn't get through the normal way, that service actually got me connected to an agent who could check my adjudication status. Might be worth trying if you're stuck.

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File now, worry later. Seriously. I know people who got fired and still got benefits. Washington ESD looks at whether you were fired for gross misconduct or not. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless you were deliberately sabotaging things.

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What counts as gross misconduct then? I want to make sure I understand.

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Things like theft, violence, showing up drunk, deliberately destroying property. Basic performance issues or personality conflicts don't usually qualify as misconduct.

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def file asap. my brother got fired last year for being late too much and still got unemployment. took a while to get approved but he got it. the key is dont lie about anything when u file

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Good to know. I'm definitely not planning to lie about anything, just nervous about the whole process.

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You mentioned safety violations - that's actually really important. If you were fired for complaining about unsafe working conditions, that's protected activity and could make your unemployment case even stronger. Document everything you can remember about the timeline.

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I do have emails where I reported the safety issues to my supervisor. Should I mention those in my application?

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Absolutely! Keep copies of everything. Those emails could be crucial evidence if your case goes to a hearing.

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The system is set up to help people who lose their jobs through no fault of their own. Even if you were fired, if it wasn't for serious misconduct, you should qualify. Don't let your employer intimidate you into not filing.

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Thank you for the encouragement. I was definitely feeling intimidated but everyone here is making me feel more confident about filing.

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been there done that. got fired from my last job for 'poor attitude' which was code for standing up to my toxic manager. filed for unemployment and got approved after they investigated. took 5 weeks total but i got backpay for the whole time

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That's reassuring to hear. Did you have to do anything special during the investigation?

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just answered their questions honestly during the phone interview. they asked about what happened and i told them exactly what went down. employer tried to fight it but i had documentation

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Quick question - when you file, make sure you're ready to start looking for work immediately. Washington ESD requires job search activities even while your claim is being processed. Don't want to get caught off guard by that requirement.

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Oh I didn't know that. How many jobs do I need to apply for each week?

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It's usually 3 job search activities per week, but check the specific requirements when you file. They'll tell you exactly what you need to do.

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Washington ESD is actually pretty fair about these things. I've seen people get approved even when their employer fought hard against it. The key is being truthful and providing any evidence you have to support your case.

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That's good to hear. I'm feeling much more confident about filing now after reading everyone's responses.

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just wanted to add - if you do get denied initially, don't give up! you can appeal the decision. lots of people win on appeal even if they lose the initial determination. the appeals process gives you a chance to present your case more fully

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How long does the appeal process take if it comes to that?

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appeals can take anywhere from 4-8 weeks depending on how backed up they are. but you can often get benefits while the appeal is pending if you request it

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I work in HR and see this all the time. Most terminations for performance don't disqualify people from unemployment unless there was willful misconduct involved. Your safety complaint angle actually sounds like it could work in your favor.

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That's really helpful to hear from someone who sees this from the employer side. Makes me feel better about my chances.

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File today if you can. The sooner you file, the sooner you can start the process. Even if it takes weeks to get approved, your benefits will be backdated to when you first filed. Every day you wait is potentially money you're losing.

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You're right, I need to stop overthinking this and just file. Thank you for the push I needed.

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Same boat as you last year. Got fired for 'insubordination' which was really just questioning my boss's illegal practices. Filed anyway and got approved after a hearing. Sometimes you have to fight for what's right.

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Glad you fought and won. Gives me hope that the system actually works sometimes.

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It does work, but you have to be persistent and not give up. Document everything and be prepared to fight if necessary.

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I'll keep that in mind if I have trouble reaching them. Sounds like it could be really helpful based on what others have said too.

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Yeah I second that recommendation. Used Claimyr myself when I needed to get through about an overpayment issue. Worth it when you're desperate to talk to someone.

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Bottom line - file your claim ASAP and let Washington ESD sort out whether you qualify or not. That's their job, not yours to figure out beforehand. Worst case scenario you get denied and can appeal. Best case you get approved and start receiving benefits.

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You're absolutely right. I'm going to file my claim today. Thank you to everyone who responded - this has been incredibly helpful!

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Good luck with your claim! Come back and update us on how it goes. Always helpful to hear about others' experiences.

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