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Can you still receive Washington ESD unemployment if you get fired?

I got terminated from my job last Friday and I'm wondering if I can still file for unemployment benefits with Washington ESD. My manager said it was due to performance issues but I feel like they were looking for reasons to let me go. I've been working there for almost 2 years and never had any written warnings or formal disciplinary actions. Does getting fired automatically disqualify you from unemployment in Washington state? I'm really stressed about how I'm going to pay my bills.

You can definitely still apply for unemployment even if you were fired. Washington ESD looks at the specific reason for termination. If it was for performance issues rather than misconduct, you'll likely qualify. The key difference is misconduct vs poor performance - they evaluate each case individually.

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That's a relief to hear. How do I know if what happened counts as misconduct or just performance issues?

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Misconduct usually involves willful violations of company policy, theft, harassment, etc. Poor performance or inability to meet job requirements typically doesn't disqualify you from benefits. Since you mentioned no formal warnings, that works in your favor.

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I went through this same situation last year. Got fired for 'not meeting expectations' but still got approved for unemployment. Washington ESD will contact your former employer to get their side of the story, then make a determination.

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How long did that process take? I need to start getting benefits as soon as possible.

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It took about 3 weeks for them to make a decision on my case. During that time my claim was in adjudication while they investigated.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already tight on money.

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It's worth it when you consider how much time you save not sitting on hold for hours. Way better than the stress of trying to get through on your own.

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Never heard of this but might be worth looking into. The Washington ESD phone system is absolutely terrible.

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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS RIGGED! They'll find any excuse to deny your claim even when you've been paying into unemployment insurance for years. Don't get your hopes up.

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That's not accurate. While the system has issues, most legitimate claims do get approved. Being negative doesn't help anyone.

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Easy for you to say. I've been fighting Washington ESD for months over a wrongful denial.

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Make sure you file your claim as soon as possible. In Washington you can file online through the SecureAccess Washington portal. Don't wait - there's a waiting week but the sooner you file, the sooner you can start receiving benefits if approved.

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I'll do that today. Should I mention that I think the firing was unfair or just stick to the facts?

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Stick to facts. Be honest about what your employer told you but don't editorialize. Washington ESD will investigate and make their own determination based on the evidence.

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same thing happened to my brother in law, he got his benefits approved after like a month of waiting

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That gives me some hope. Did he have to do anything special during the process?

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just had to keep filing his weekly claims even while it was under review

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Important to understand that Washington ESD looks at whether the termination was for 'misconduct connected with work.' This is a specific legal standard. Performance issues, lack of skills, or good faith mistakes typically don't meet this threshold. Document everything you can remember about your termination conversation.

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Should I get some kind of written statement from my employer about why I was fired?

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You can request documentation but they're not required to provide it. Washington ESD will contact them directly during their investigation. Focus on filing your initial claim first.

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This is good advice. I made the mistake of not documenting everything when I got fired and it made the adjudication process more complicated.

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Just went through this process myself. Got fired in November for attendance issues but Washington ESD approved my claim. The key was that I had legitimate reasons for my absences (medical issues) even though I didn't handle the communication with my employer perfectly.

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How did you prove your case to Washington ESD?

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I provided medical documentation and explained the circumstances honestly. They interviewed both me and my former employer before making their decision.

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The Washington ESD adjudication process can be frustrating because you're basically in limbo waiting for them to decide. Keep filing your weekly claims even while it's under review - if you're approved, you'll get back pay for those weeks.

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Good to know about the back pay. I was worried about missing out on benefits during the review period.

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Yeah definitely keep filing. I almost gave up during my adjudication but glad I stuck with it.

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Look, I've been dealing with Washington ESD for years helping people with their claims. Being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you, but be prepared for them to take their sweet time reviewing your case. The Claimyr service mentioned earlier is actually pretty helpful for staying on top of your claim status without spending your whole day on hold.

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Thanks for the tip. I'm definitely going to need to stay in contact with them during this process.

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Is that service legitimate? Seems too good to be true.

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Yeah it's legit. They just help you get through to actual Washington ESD agents faster. Still dealing with the real state employees, just without the endless hold times.

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Whatever you do, DON'T lie on your application. Washington ESD will find out the truth when they contact your employer. Be honest about being terminated and let them make the determination about eligibility.

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Absolutely, I plan to be completely honest. Just nervous about the whole process.

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Honesty is definitely the best policy with unemployment claims. Lying can result in overpayment demands and penalties.

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I'm in a similar boat - got let go three weeks ago and still waiting for Washington ESD to make a decision on my claim. The uncertainty is killing me financially.

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It's so stressful not knowing when or if the benefits will come through. Hope yours gets approved soon.

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Thanks, same to you. At least we're not alone in dealing with this bureaucratic mess.

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Pro tip: when you file your claim, be very specific about what your employer told you regarding the reason for termination. Don't speculate or add your own interpretation - just report exactly what was communicated to you.

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That makes sense. I'll write down exactly what my manager said during the termination meeting.

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Good advice. The more factual and less emotional your claim appears, the better.

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Been through this twice unfortunately. First time I got denied because I was fired for violating safety rules. Second time got approved because I was terminated for not meeting sales targets. Washington ESD really does look at the specific circumstances.

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That's helpful context. Performance issues seem to be treated differently than policy violations.

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Exactly. Misconduct has to be willful and work-related. Just not being good at your job isn't usually considered misconduct.

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This distinction is really important. Wish more people understood it before panicking about their eligibility.

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File online ASAP through SecureAccess Washington. The sooner you get your claim in the system, the sooner the process can start. Even if it takes weeks to resolve, at least the clock is ticking.

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Will do. Thanks for all the advice everyone. Feeling much more hopeful about this situation.

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Good luck with your claim! Keep us posted on how it goes.

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