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Can you get unemployment if you got fired - Washington ESD eligibility question

I got terminated from my job last week and I'm wondering if I can still file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. My manager said it was due to performance issues but I feel like it was unfair. I've been working for 2 years at this company and never had any formal warnings. Does getting fired automatically disqualify you from UI benefits in Washington? I'm really stressed about this and need to know if I should even bother applying or if it's hopeless.

You can definitely still apply for unemployment even if you were fired. Washington ESD will investigate the circumstances around your termination to determine if you're eligible. If you were fired for misconduct, that could disqualify you, but performance issues are usually different from misconduct. File your claim ASAP since there's a waiting period.

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Thanks, that's encouraging. What exactly counts as misconduct vs performance issues? I was always on time and followed company policies.

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Misconduct is usually willful violations like theft, harassment, or deliberately not following rules. Poor performance, inability to meet standards, or personality conflicts typically don't count as misconduct.

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File your claim immediately. Washington ESD will contact both you and your employer to determine the facts. If your employer can't prove you committed misconduct, you'll likely be approved. Even if they initially deny you, you can appeal the decision.

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How long does the investigation process usually take? I'm worried about paying bills while this gets sorted out.

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It varies but usually 2-4 weeks for the initial determination. If it goes to adjudication it can take longer. That's why filing immediately is so important.

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I had a similar situation last year - got fired for 'performance issues' but it was really because my boss didn't like me. Washington ESD approved my claim after investigating. The key is being honest about what happened and providing any documentation you have. Don't assume you're disqualified just because you were terminated.

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That's reassuring to hear. Did your employer fight the claim or provide their side of the story?

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Yeah they responded to Washington ESD's inquiry but couldn't provide evidence of actual misconduct. Performance issues alone usually aren't enough to disqualify you from benefits.

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Interesting, I've never heard of that. Is it legit? I'm always skeptical of third-party services for government stuff.

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Yeah it's legitimate - they just help you get through the phone queue to reach actual Washington ESD staff. I was desperate after trying to call for days with no luck.

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ugh the whole system is so frustrating! I got fired from my retail job 3 months ago and it took FOREVER to get approved. Washington ESD makes you jump through so many hoops even when you clearly deserve benefits

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What kind of hoops? I want to be prepared for whatever they might ask for.

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they wanted documentation of everything - my work schedule, any emails about performance, witness statements etc. just be ready to provide lots of details

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Important reminder - even if you get approved for unemployment, you'll need to complete weekly claims and meet job search requirements. Washington ESD requires you to actively look for work and log your job search activities. Don't forget about those requirements once your claim is approved.

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How many jobs do you have to apply for each week? And where do you log that information?

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It's typically 3 job search activities per week and you log them in your SecureAccess Washington account when you file your weekly claim. Activities can include applying for jobs, networking, or attending job fairs.

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File ASAP! Don't let them intimidate you just because you were fired. I know someone who got approved even after being terminated for attendance issues because the company couldn't prove willful misconduct.

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That gives me hope. I really think my firing was unfair and more about office politics than actual performance.

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That's exactly the kind of situation where Washington ESD would likely approve benefits. Politics and personality conflicts aren't misconduct.

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whatever you do dont lie about anything when you file. washington esd will find out the truth anyway and lying will definitely disqualify you. just be honest about what happened

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Absolutely, I plan to be completely truthful. I have nothing to hide since I wasn't doing anything wrong.

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One more thing - if Washington ESD initially denies your claim, don't give up. You have the right to appeal their decision and request a hearing. Many people win their appeals even after an initial denial, especially in termination cases where the employer can't prove misconduct.

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Good to know I have options if things don't go well initially. How long do you have to file an appeal?

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You have 30 days from the date of the determination notice to file an appeal. Don't wait if you disagree with their decision.

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I was in a similar boat - got 'laid off' but really fired for bogus reasons. Washington ESD approved me after about 3 weeks of investigation. The employer has to prove misconduct, not just that they didn't like your work. Performance issues happen and that's what unemployment insurance is for!

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Three weeks isn't too bad. I was worried it might take months to get a decision.

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Some cases take longer if they're more complicated, but straightforward termination cases usually get resolved within a month.

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Pro tip: when you file your initial claim online, be detailed but stick to the facts. Don't get emotional or rant about how unfair your boss was. Just state what happened objectively. Washington ESD wants facts, not feelings.

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That's really good advice. I was planning to explain how unfair everything was, but you're right that I should just stick to facts.

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Exactly right. Keep it professional and factual. Let Washington ESD draw their own conclusions from the facts you present.

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omg yes file immediately!! I waited a week after getting fired and regretted it because you can't get benefits for that gap week. every day you wait is money you're losing

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I didn't realize there was a waiting period. I'll file tonight for sure.

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Just want to mention again about that Claimyr service I used - it was honestly a lifesaver when I needed to get status updates on my claim. Washington ESD's phone system is brutal and I was getting nowhere trying to call on my own. Definitely worth checking out if you run into phone problems.

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I second this recommendation. Used Claimyr when my claim was stuck in adjudication and finally got through to someone who could explain what was happening.

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Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if I have trouble reaching them. Hopefully I won't need it but good to know it's an option.

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Final reminder - even if you're approved for benefits, you'll need to file weekly claims every week to receive payments. Don't skip a week or you'll lose that week's benefits. Mark your calendar and set up a routine for filing every week.

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When during the week do you typically file? Is there a best day to do it?

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You can file starting Sunday for the previous week. I always file on Sunday mornings to get it out of the way. The system is usually less busy early in the week too.

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Good luck with your claim! Remember that getting fired doesn't automatically disqualify you. Washington ESD has to prove misconduct occurred, and performance issues typically don't meet that standard. Stay positive and be patient with the process.

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful advice. I feel much more confident about filing now. Going to start the application tonight.

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Make sure you have all your employment information handy when you file - dates of employment, employer contact info, reason for separation, etc. Having everything organized will make the application process smoother and faster.

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I'll gather all that information before I start. Thanks for thinking of that detail.

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You're welcome. The more prepared you are, the less likely you are to make mistakes that could delay your claim.

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honestly getting fired was the best thing that happened to me because I found a much better job while on unemployment. dont stress too much about it - use this time to find something better!

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That's a positive way to look at it. Maybe this is an opportunity in disguise.

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One last thing - if your employer contests your claim (which they might to avoid higher unemployment taxes), don't panic. Contest cases are very common and many people still get approved. Just make sure you respond to any requests for information from Washington ESD promptly.

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I'm prepared for them to contest it since they probably don't want their rates to go up. I'll make sure to respond quickly to anything Washington ESD sends me.

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That's the right attitude. Stay on top of all communications and you should be fine.

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Best of luck! The whole process can be stressful but Washington ESD is generally fair about approving benefits for people who were fired without committing actual misconduct. Hang in there and don't let your former employer intimidate you.

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Thanks for all the encouragement. This thread has been incredibly helpful and I feel much better about the whole situation now.

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