If get fired can collect unemployment - Washington ESD eligibility question

They never gave me any formal warnings though, just said my numbers weren't meeting expectations. Does that help my case?

Yes, that actually helps a lot. If they didn't follow progressive discipline or give you a chance to improve, it's less likely to be considered misconduct.

What did you put as the reason for separation on the Washington ESD application?

I selected 'discharged/fired' and then explained in the comments section exactly what my employer told me.

What if they say you were 'insubordinate' but you were just asking questions about policies?

Asking legitimate questions about work policies isn't insubordination. Washington ESD looks at the specific circumstances, not just what the employer claims.

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Really? How does that work exactly? I've been calling every day at 8am and still can't get through.

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Did Washington ESD ask for documentation about your kids being sick?

no they just asked my employer for their side and I guess what I said made sense

How long does that investigation usually take? My claim has been pending for 2 weeks now.

It can take anywhere from 2-6 weeks depending on how quickly your employer responds to Washington ESD's request for information.

Keep any documentation you have - termination letter, emails, text messages. Washington ESD wants to see evidence, not just he-said-she-said.

I have the termination letter that says 'performance' as the reason. Should I upload that to my Washington ESD account?

I feel you on the frustration but most people do get approved if they were fired for non-misconduct reasons.

MAYBE but they make you jump through so many hoops and wait forever for an answer

Yes, you need to keep filing weekly claims and doing your job search activities even during the adjudication process.

thanks, wasn't sure about that part

That's helpful to know. So they really do look at the details and not just assume the employer is right.

Exactly. They investigate thoroughly. Just be completely honest about what happened when you file.

What was your experience like?

got approved after about 3 weeks, employer tried to fight it but didn't have good documentation

I already filed online but haven't heard anything back yet. How will I know if they need more information?

They'll send correspondence through your online account or by mail if they need additional details. Check your account regularly.

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I'll look into that, thanks. Getting really frustrated with the busy signals.

That's right. Misconduct has to be willful or deliberate. Poor performance due to lack of skills or ability usually doesn't qualify.

This is really reassuring. I was definitely trying my best, just couldn't keep up with their quotas.

Thank you, I appreciate the encouragement. Just trying to stay positive while I wait for Washington ESD to make their decision.

That's interesting - I didn't know they took circumstances like that into account.

They look at whether you had control over the situation. If it's something beyond your reasonable control, it's usually not misconduct.

How will I know if they need more info from me? Should I be checking my account daily?

Yes, check your online account regularly and also watch for mail. They use both methods to communicate during the adjudication process.

A hearing sounds scary. What's that like?

It's just a conference call with an administrative law judge. You and your employer each get to tell your side of the story. Keep it factual and don't get emotional.

Thanks everyone for all the helpful information. I feel much better about my chances now.

How long do you have to file an appeal if needed?

You have 30 days from the date of the determination letter to file an appeal with Washington ESD.