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Zainab Khalil

Washington ESD unemployment if fired from job - eligibility questions

I got terminated from my retail job last week and I'm not sure if I can file for unemployment benefits with Washington ESD. My manager said I was fired for performance issues but I feel like they were looking for reasons to let me go. I've been working there for 8 months and never had any formal write-ups. Can you still get UI benefits if you were fired? What does Washington ESD consider when they review these cases?

Yes you can potentially get unemployment if you were fired, but it depends on the reason. Washington ESD will look at whether you were terminated for misconduct or just poor performance. If it was performance-related and not willful misconduct, you might still qualify for benefits.

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That's helpful, thanks. They said I wasn't meeting sales targets but I was never formally coached or given improvement plans. Does that matter to Washington ESD?

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Absolutely that matters. Lack of formal progressive discipline often works in your favor during the adjudication process.

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I was in a similar situation last year. Got fired from my warehouse job for allegedly being late too often. Filed anyway and after about 3 weeks of adjudication, Washington ESD approved my claim. The key is being honest on your application about why you were terminated.

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How long did the whole process take from filing to getting your first payment?

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About 5 weeks total. The adjudication took 3 weeks, then once approved it was another 2 weeks for the first deposit.

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When you file your claim, Washington ESD will contact your former employer to get their side of the story. This is part of the standard adjudication process for any termination. Make sure you have documentation of your work history and any communications with management.

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I have some text messages from my supervisor but not much else. Should I gather anything specific before filing?

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Save those texts! Also try to document your work schedule, any training you received, and dates of any meetings with management. This all helps during adjudication.

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Never heard of that before. Is it legit or some kind of scam?

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It's legitimate. They basically handle the phone calling process for you so you don't have to sit there redialing constantly. Really helpful when you need to check on adjudication status.

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honestly this whole system is ridiculous... you get fired through no fault of your own and then have to PROVE you deserve help paying your bills while looking for work. washington esd makes it so complicated

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I understand the frustration, but the system does need to verify eligibility to prevent fraud. Most legitimate claims do get approved eventually.

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yeah i get that but when you're worried about rent it doesn't feel like 'eventually' is good enough

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Update: I went ahead and filed my claim online through the Washington ESD website. The process was pretty straightforward but now it shows 'adjudication in progress' status. I guess now I wait to hear from them?

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Exactly. During adjudication they'll likely call or send paperwork to both you and your former employer. Be sure to respond promptly to any requests for information.

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Good call filing right away. The sooner you file, the sooner the process starts. Keep filing your weekly claims even during adjudication.

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What counts as misconduct anyway? I thought getting fired automatically disqualified you from unemployment

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Common misconception. Misconduct for Washington ESD purposes usually means willful violation of company policy, criminal activity, or deliberate disregard of employer interests. Poor performance alone typically doesn't qualify as misconduct.

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Oh wow I had no idea. That's actually really good to know for future reference.

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My brother got fired from his construction job for missing too many days but it was because of a back injury. Washington ESD still approved his claim because the absences weren't willful misconduct. Every case is different though.

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That's encouraging to hear. My situation feels pretty gray area so hopefully they'll see it the same way.

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Yeah just be completely honest in all your communications with them. They can usually tell when people are trying to hide something.

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The job search requirements kick in right away too, even during adjudication. Make sure you're logging your job search activities on WorkSourceWA or you could lose benefits later.

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Wait, I have to start job searching immediately? I thought I had a week or two to get my affairs in order first.

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Nope, starts with your first weekly claim. You need to be actively searching and log it properly or it can cause issues with your benefits.

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If your employer disputes your claim, you might have to do a phone hearing. I had to do one last year and it was nerve-wracking but ultimately went okay. The hearing officer asked both sides questions and made a determination.

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How long after filing did you have to do the hearing? And did you need a lawyer or anything?

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It was about 6 weeks after filing. You don't need a lawyer but you can have one if you want. I just represented myself and brought my documentation.

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just want to echo what others said about being honest. i tried to make my firing sound better than it was and it backfired during adjudication. second time around i was completely upfront and got approved

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Good advice. I'm definitely planning to just tell them exactly what happened, even if it doesn't make me look great.

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That's the right approach. Washington ESD has heard every story - honesty is always the best policy.

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The weekly benefit amount will be based on your earnings from the past year, not just your most recent job. So if you had other employment before this retail job, that income counts too.

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That's good to know. I did have a different job for part of last year before starting at the retail place.

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Yeah Washington ESD looks at your entire base period, so all qualifying wages during that time frame will factor into your benefit calculation.

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Anyone else having trouble getting through to Washington ESD lately? I've been trying to call about my claim for days and keep getting busy signals or hung up on after being on hold forever.

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This is exactly why I started using Claimyr. The constant busy signals and dropped calls were driving me crazy. Much easier to let them handle the calling while I do other things.

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I might have to check that out. This is ridiculous how hard it is to reach anyone there.

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Word of warning - if you do get approved, make sure you understand the job search requirements. I got my benefits suspended because I wasn't logging enough job contacts per week. Had to appeal to get them reinstated.

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How many job contacts do you need per week? And where exactly do you log them?

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It's 3 job search activities per week minimum, logged in your WorkSourceWA account. Can be applications, networking events, job fairs, etc.

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I'm dealing with something similar right now. Got terminated for 'poor attitude' which seems pretty subjective to me. My claim has been in adjudication for 2 weeks now and I'm getting anxious about the outcome.

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That does sound subjective. Did they give you any specific examples or was it just general feedback?

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Just general stuff about not being a 'team player' and having a negative attitude. Nothing concrete that I can point to as misconduct.

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The good news is that Washington ESD tends to err on the side of the claimant when the circumstances are unclear. Employers have to provide pretty solid evidence of misconduct to get a claim denied.

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That's reassuring. I feel like my case is pretty gray area so hopefully they'll give me the benefit of the doubt.

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Exactly. As long as you weren't stealing, fighting, or blatantly violating clear policies, you've got a decent shot at approval.

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Make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even while waiting for the adjudication decision. If you're eventually approved, you'll get back pay for those weeks, but only if you filed the claims.

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Good point. I wasn't sure if I should keep filing while the decision was pending.

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Definitely keep filing. You can't get retroactive benefits for weeks you didn't claim, even if you're eventually approved.

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This whole thread has been really helpful. I'm in a similar boat - got let go from my office job for 'performance issues' but it felt more like they wanted to make room for someone cheaper. Planning to file this weekend.

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File as soon as possible. There's a waiting week anyway, so the sooner you start the process, the better.

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Will do. Thanks for all the advice everyone. Nice to know I'm not alone in dealing with this stuff.

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One last tip - if you need to speak with someone at Washington ESD urgently about your case, I've had good luck calling right when they open at 8am. Lines are usually less busy first thing in the morning.

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I'll try that tomorrow morning. Though honestly the Claimyr thing mentioned earlier sounds pretty tempting too.

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Early morning calling works sometimes, but when you really need to get through, having a service handle it definitely takes the stress out of the situation.

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