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Ravi Choudhury

Can you get unemployment if fired in Washington State - need help understanding eligibility

I got terminated from my retail job last month and I'm confused about whether I can even apply for unemployment benefits in Washington. My manager said I was let go for 'performance issues' but honestly I think it was more about them wanting to cut costs. I've been working there for over a year and never had any formal write-ups or disciplinary actions. Can you still get Washington ESD unemployment benefits if you were fired? I keep reading conflicting information online and I'm worried about wasting time filing if I'm not eligible.

Yes you can definitely get unemployment if you were fired, but it depends on WHY you were fired. Washington ESD will look at whether it was misconduct or just performance/business reasons. If they fired you for attendance, stealing, or breaking company policy that's misconduct and you'd be disqualified. But if it was performance issues or layoffs you should be eligible.

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That's reassuring, thank you! It was definitely performance related, not misconduct. Should I file right away or wait to see if they contest it?

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File immediately! You can't get benefits for weeks you don't file, even if you're approved later. The worst case is they deny you and you appeal.

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I was in the exact same situation 6 months ago. Got fired for 'not meeting expectations' but really they were just cutting staff. I applied anyway and got approved after about 3 weeks. Washington ESD will contact your employer to get their side of the story, so be honest about what happened when you file.

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Did they make you do a phone interview or anything? I'm nervous about having to explain the whole situation.

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They might schedule a fact-finding interview if your employer contests it. Just stick to the facts and don't badmouth your old boss, even if they deserve it lol

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You should definitely apply. Washington state has what's called 'good cause' termination vs misconduct. Performance issues usually fall under good cause unless you were deliberately not doing your job or violated clear policies. The key is being able to show you were trying to do the work but couldn't meet their standards for legitimate reasons.

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What if I never got proper training? I feel like they set me up to fail from the beginning.

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That could actually help your case! Lack of proper training or unreasonable expectations can support your claim that it wasn't misconduct.

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The system is so messed up, they make it impossible to get help when you need it most. I've been trying to call Washington ESD for two weeks about my adjudication and can never get through. At least filing online is pretty straightforward though.

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What's adjudication? Is that something I should be worried about?

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It's when they have to investigate your claim before approving it. Happens a lot when you're fired - they need to determine if it was misconduct or not.

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Don't stress about adjudication too much. It just means they're doing their due diligence. Most people get approved eventually unless there was clear misconduct.

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I got fired from my job at Boeing and still got unemployment. As long as you weren't stealing or doing something obviously wrong you should be fine. The burden of proof is on your employer to show it was misconduct.

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That's good to know! I definitely wasn't doing anything dishonest, just struggling to keep up with their unrealistic quotas.

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File online at esd.wa.gov - it's much easier than calling. You'll need your Social Security number, driver's license, and employment history for the last 18 months. Make sure you have your last employer's exact business name and address.

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Should I contact my old job to get this information or just use what I remember?

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Use your pay stubs or W-2 if you have them. Don't contact your old employer unless you have to - let Washington ESD handle that communication.

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One more thing - make sure you start filing your weekly claims right away even if your initial claim is still pending. You can't get paid for weeks you don't file, and it shows Washington ESD you're serious about looking for work.

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How do the weekly claims work? Do I have to prove I'm job searching every week?

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Yes, you need to log at least 3 job search activities per week. Keep records of where you applied, when, and what type of work. They can audit this anytime.

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Same thing happened to my sister. She got fired for 'attitude problems' but really her manager just didn't like her. She got unemployment after they did an investigation. The key is being completely honest about what happened and not trying to hide anything.

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Did she have to pay anything back later? I keep seeing scary stories about overpayments.

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No, as long as you're honest when you file and report any work you do while claiming, you shouldn't have overpayment issues.

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Don't let them intimidate you! Employers try to scare people into not filing by making them think they won't qualify. If you worked and paid into the system, you deserve benefits when you lose your job through no fault of your own.

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You're right, I've been paying into unemployment insurance for years. I shouldn't feel guilty about using it when I need it.

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Washington ESD gets backed up during busy periods so don't panic if it takes a few weeks to hear back. I know someone who used that Claimyr service the other person mentioned when they needed to check on their claim status. Apparently it really does help you get through to talk to an actual person instead of getting the runaround.

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I might look into that if I can't get through on my own. Good to know there are options.

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Quick question - do you have to pay taxes on unemployment benefits? I forgot about that when I was collecting last year and got hit with a big tax bill.

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Yes, unemployment is taxable income. You can choose to have taxes withheld when you file your weekly claims, or pay estimated taxes quarterly.

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Thanks for mentioning that! I definitely want to avoid any tax surprises.

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Also make sure you understand the work search requirements. You need to be actively looking for work and available to accept suitable employment. Can't just collect benefits without trying to find a new job.

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What counts as 'suitable employment'? Do I have to take any job that's offered?

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Generally has to be in your field of experience and pay at least 80% of your previous wage for the first few weeks. After that the requirements get less strict.

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The most important thing is to file as soon as possible. There's a waiting week in Washington so you won't get paid for the first week anyway, but you need to get the process started. Don't overthink it - just apply and let them sort out the details.

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You're absolutely right. I've been overthinking this way too much. I'm going to file today.

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Good luck! The worst they can do is say no, and then you can appeal if you disagree with their decision. At least you'll know for sure instead of wondering what if.

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Thank you everyone for all the helpful advice. This thread has been incredibly reassuring. Going to file my claim right now!

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One final tip - keep detailed records of everything. Save all correspondence from Washington ESD, document your job search activities, and keep track of any income you earn while claiming. Being organized will save you headaches later if any issues come up.

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Great advice! I'll start a folder right now to keep everything organized.

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Update us when you hear back! Always curious how these situations turn out. And remember, if you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD during the process, that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier really does work. Sometimes paying a little to save hours of frustration is worth it.

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Will do! And I bookmarked that service just in case. Hopefully I won't need it but good to have as backup.

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You got this! Most people who get fired for performance reasons do get approved. The system isn't perfect but it generally works in favor of workers who lost their jobs through no real fault of their own.

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Thanks for the encouragement! Feeling much more confident about this now.

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Perfect thread timing - just helped someone else in a similar situation yesterday. The key takeaway is don't let fear of denial stop you from applying. Washington's unemployment system is designed to help people who lost work through no fault of their own, which includes most terminations that aren't for serious misconduct.

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Exactly what I needed to hear. Filing my application now. Thank you all so much for taking the time to help!

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Glad this worked out! For anyone else reading this later - don't let employers scare you away from filing. Know your rights and use the benefits you've earned.

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Absolutely! This community is amazing. Will definitely pay it forward and help others when I can.

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Just wanted to add that timing really matters here - don't wait around hoping your old employer will change their mind or offer you your job back. File immediately because there's usually a one-week waiting period before benefits start, and you can't get retroactive payments for weeks you didn't file. I made that mistake once and lost out on two weeks of benefits. Also, even if you're not 100% sure about your eligibility, it's better to apply and let Washington ESD make the determination rather than self-reject. The worst case scenario is they say no and you're in the same position you're in now.

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This is such solid advice! I wish I had known about the timing issue when I was laid off from my warehouse job last year. I waited almost two weeks thinking I might get called back, and you're absolutely right - you can't get those weeks back even if you're approved later. The waiting period plus my delay meant I went almost a month without any income when I could have been getting benefits after just one week. For anyone reading this thread, definitely file immediately even if you're unsure. Washington ESD has to investigate most firing cases anyway, so there's really no downside to starting the process right away.

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I went through almost the exact same situation about 8 months ago - got fired for "performance issues" from a customer service job where I felt like the expectations were impossible to meet. I was terrified to file because my manager made it sound like I'd never qualify, but I'm so glad I did it anyway. The whole process took about 5 weeks from filing to getting my first payment, and yes they did contact my old employer, but Washington ESD ultimately ruled in my favor. The key thing that helped me was keeping a simple timeline of what happened - when I was hired, what training I received (or didn't receive), any feedback I got, and the circumstances around being fired. When they called me for the fact-finding interview, I just stuck to the facts and didn't get emotional about it. The investigator was actually pretty understanding and seemed to recognize that it was more about unrealistic job expectations than any wrongdoing on my part. Don't let fear stop you from applying - you've paid into this system and deserve to use it when you need it!

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This is incredibly helpful to hear from someone who went through the exact same thing! I'm definitely feeling more confident about applying now. The timeline idea is brilliant - I'm going to write down everything I can remember about my hiring, training, and the issues that led to my termination. It sounds like being factual and organized really makes a difference in these interviews. Thank you for sharing your experience and for the encouragement about using benefits I've earned. It's easy to feel guilty about it, but you're absolutely right that this is what the system is for.

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I'm in a very similar boat right now - got let go from my office job three weeks ago for "not being a good fit" which I think was really just code for budget cuts. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been so reassuring! I keep second-guessing myself about whether to file, but it sounds like the consensus is definitely to apply right away. One question I haven't seen addressed - if you do get approved and start receiving benefits, but then your former employer decides to contest it later, what happens? Can they take away your benefits retroactively or do you get to keep what you've already received while they sort it out? I'm worried about getting approved initially and then having the rug pulled out from under me.

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Great question! From what I understand, if your employer contests your claim after you've already been approved and receiving benefits, Washington ESD will do another investigation. During that review period, you typically continue receiving benefits while they sort it out - they don't just cut you off immediately. If they ultimately rule against you after the contest, then yes, you might have to pay back benefits you received (that's called an overpayment), but if their decision stands in your favor, you keep everything. The key is being completely honest in your initial application so there are no surprises later. Most employers who are going to contest do it right away though, not weeks into your claim. Given that you were told it was "not being a good fit" rather than misconduct, you should definitely apply - that sounds exactly like the type of situation unemployment benefits are designed for!

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I was in a really similar situation about a year ago - got fired from my restaurant job for "poor performance" but honestly I think they were just looking for reasons to cut staff during a slow period. The whole thing felt really unfair since I was never given clear feedback about what I was doing wrong until the day they let me go. I was so nervous about filing because I thought being fired automatically disqualified you, but I'm really glad I applied anyway. The process took about 4 weeks from start to finish, and Washington ESD did contact my former employer to get their side of the story. I had to do a phone interview where they asked me to explain what happened from my perspective. I just stuck to the facts and explained that I felt I was doing my best but wasn't given adequate guidance on how to improve. They ended up approving my claim! The whole experience taught me that Washington's unemployment system really does try to be fair and distinguish between people who were fired for legitimate misconduct versus those who just couldn't meet unrealistic expectations or were let go for business reasons. Definitely apply - the worst they can say is no, and at least you'll know for sure rather than wondering what if.

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