Can I get Washington ESD unemployment benefits if I was fired from my job?
I got terminated from my retail job last Friday and I'm not sure if I can even apply for unemployment. My manager said it was due to 'performance issues' but honestly I think they just didn't like me. I've been working there for 8 months and never got any formal warnings or write-ups. Can I still file for Washington ESD benefits or am I automatically disqualified since I was fired? I really need the income while I look for another job.
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Selena Bautista
You can definitely apply! Being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from Washington ESD benefits. The key is whether you were terminated for 'misconduct' or not. Performance issues usually aren't considered misconduct unless you were deliberately not doing your job or violating company policies.
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Tasia Synder
•That's a relief to hear. I was definitely trying my best, just maybe not meeting their expectations. Should I mention the lack of formal warnings when I apply?
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Selena Bautista
•Yes, absolutely mention that. Washington ESD looks at whether the employer followed progressive discipline. No warnings or write-ups actually works in your favor.
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Zainab Abdulrahman
You can definitely apply for Washington ESD benefits even if you were fired. It depends on whether you were terminated for misconduct or not. Attendance issues might not count as misconduct if you had valid reasons for the absences and followed company policy by calling in.
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Miguel Castro
•I had a medical appointment for one absence and my car broke down for another. The third time I was genuinely sick. I followed their call-in procedure each time.
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Zainab Abdulrahman
•Those sound like valid reasons. Make sure to document everything when you file your claim. Washington ESD will investigate and make a determination.
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Connor Byrne
I was fired for similar reasons last year and still got approved for benefits. The key is that Washington ESD looks at whether your actions were willful misconduct. Missing work for legitimate reasons usually doesn't qualify as misconduct.
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Miguel Castro
•How long did it take for them to make a decision on your claim?
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Connor Byrne
•About 3 weeks, but it went into adjudication because my employer disputed it initially. Eventually they approved it though.
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Aisha Abdullah
Being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from Washington ESD benefits. It depends on WHY you were fired. If it was for misconduct (like stealing, fighting, or willful violation of company policy), then you'll likely be denied. But if it was for performance issues, inability to do the job, or personality conflicts, you may still qualify. You should definitely file a claim and let Washington ESD make the determination.
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Mateo Lopez
•Thank you! That gives me some hope. The firing was definitely related to my questioning her authority rather than any serious misconduct. I'll file my claim today.
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Ethan Davis
•This is correct. Washington ESD looks at whether the termination was due to 'misconduct connected with work' which has a specific legal definition.
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Mohamed Anderson
I went through this exact situation last year. Filed my claim right away and it went into adjudication for about 3 weeks while Washington ESD investigated. They contacted both me and my former employer to get both sides of the story. Eventually got approved because I could prove I wasn't fired for misconduct.
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Tasia Synder
•Did you have to provide any documentation during the adjudication process?
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Mohamed Anderson
•Just my employment records and a written statement explaining my side. Make sure you keep copies of everything from your employer if you have any.
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Ellie Perry
•3 weeks for adjudication? Mine took 6 weeks and I almost lost my apartment waiting. The calling system is impossible too.
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Yuki Tanaka
You should file immediately. Even if your employer contests it, you can appeal their decision. I was fired for 'attitude problems' and still got my benefits after explaining my side during the adjudication process. The key is being honest about what happened when you file.
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Mateo Lopez
•How long did the adjudication process take for you? I'm hoping it won't drag on for weeks.
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Yuki Tanaka
•Mine took about 3 weeks. They had to interview both me and my former supervisor before making a decision.
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Carmen Ortiz
I had a similar situation where I couldn't get through to Washington ESD to check on my claim status after being fired. Spent weeks calling that 833 number with no luck. Then I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually got me connected to a real person at Washington ESD. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Really helped me get my adjudication resolved faster.
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Mateo Lopez
•Interesting, I've never heard of that service. Did it actually work for you?
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Carmen Ortiz
•Yeah it did. I was skeptical at first but I was desperate to talk to someone at Washington ESD about my claim. Worth checking out if you run into the same calling problems I had.
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MidnightRider
•I might need to try this too. I've been calling Washington ESD for days with no success.
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Andre Laurent
THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED!!! They'll find any excuse to deny you benefits even when your boss was clearly in the wrong. I got fired for 'insubordination' when I refused to work unpaid overtime and they still denied my claim initially. Had to fight tooth and nail to get it overturned.
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Aisha Abdullah
•That's frustrating but every case is different. The appeals process exists for situations exactly like yours where the initial determination was wrong.
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Andre Laurent
•True but it shouldn't be this hard to get benefits you're entitled to. The whole system needs an overhaul.
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Landon Morgan
Honestly, trying to reach Washington ESD by phone is a nightmare. I spent weeks calling hundreds of times just to check on my claim status. Finally discovered Claimyr (claimyr.com) and they got me connected to an actual agent in like 20 minutes. There's even a video demo showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ. Saved me so much stress.
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Teresa Boyd
•Never heard of that before. Is it legit or one of those scam services?
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Landon Morgan
•Totally legit. They don't ask for your personal info or anything sketchy. Just helps you get through the phone system to talk to real Washington ESD staff.
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Lourdes Fox
•I might need this. Been trying to call for two weeks about my adjudication and can't get through.
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Yara Elias
File your claim ASAP! Don't wait. Even if you're not sure you qualify, it's better to apply and let Washington ESD make the determination. You can always appeal if they deny you initially.
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Miguel Castro
•Should I file online or call them?
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Yara Elias
•Online is usually faster. Go to esd.wa.gov and file your initial application there. Just be honest about everything.
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QuantumQuasar
•Good luck getting through on the phone anyway. Their call volume is insane and you'll be on hold forever.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
Make sure you document everything about your termination - any emails, witness statements, your employee handbook, etc. Washington ESD will want details about the circumstances. Also be prepared for your employer to possibly contest your claim, which could trigger an adjudication review.
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Mateo Lopez
•Good point about documentation. I do have some emails that show my supervisor was targeting me after I questioned her decisions.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
•Those emails could be very helpful if your case goes to adjudication. Keep copies of everything related to your employment and termination.
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Jamal Washington
been there, got fired last year for 'poor performance' but really it was because my manager didn't like me. still got my unemployment after they reviewed everything. just be honest when you file and don't try to hide anything
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Mateo Lopez
•That's encouraging to hear. I'm definitely going to be completely honest about what happened.
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Aisha Abdullah
When you file your initial claim, you'll be asked specific questions about your separation from work. Answer them truthfully and thoroughly. If Washington ESD needs more information, they'll conduct fact-finding interviews with both you and your employer before making a determination.
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Mei Wong
•What kind of questions do they typically ask during those fact-finding interviews?
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Aisha Abdullah
•They'll ask about the specific incident that led to your firing, your work history, any warnings you received, company policies that may have been involved, and your version of events.
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Liam Fitzgerald
I'm dealing with something similar right now. Got fired three weeks ago and my claim is still in adjudication. It's nerve-wracking waiting for their decision but at least I filed right away so the claim date is backdated to when I first applied.
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Mateo Lopez
•Three weeks seems like a long time. Have you been able to reach anyone at Washington ESD to check on the status?
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Liam Fitzgerald
•No luck calling them directly. The phone lines are always busy. Thinking about trying that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier.
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Bruno Simmons
File immediately! Don't wait. Even if there's a chance you might be denied, you want to get your claim date established. You can always appeal if Washington ESD initially denies you. The worst thing you can do is not apply at all.
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Tasia Synder
•Good point. I was worried about filing if I might get denied anyway. How long do I have to file after being terminated?
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Bruno Simmons
•You should file within the first week if possible. There's no penalty for filing 'too early' but there can be issues if you wait too long.
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Keisha Jackson
I actually discovered a service called Claimyr that helps people get through to Washington ESD agents when you can't reach them by phone. I used it when my claim was stuck in adjudication and it saved me so much time. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.
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Miguel Castro
•Is that legit? I've never heard of it before.
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Keisha Jackson
•Yeah it's real. They basically call for you and get you connected to an actual person at Washington ESD. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.
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Paolo Moretti
•I'm skeptical of anything that charges money to help with unemployment claims...
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Keisha Jackson
•I get the skepticism but honestly after wasting 20+ hours trying to get through myself, it was worth it to actually talk to someone who could explain what was happening with my claim.
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PixelWarrior
Quick question - does it matter what industry you work in? I was fired from a restaurant job and wondering if service industry terminations are treated differently by Washington ESD.
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Aisha Abdullah
•No, the industry doesn't matter. Washington ESD applies the same misconduct standards regardless of whether you worked in restaurants, retail, office work, etc.
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PixelWarrior
•Good to know, thanks for clarifying that!
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Yuki Tanaka
One thing to keep in mind - even if you're initially approved for benefits, your employer can still appeal the decision. I've seen cases where someone starts receiving payments and then has to pay them back after an employer's successful appeal. Just something to be aware of.
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Mateo Lopez
•Wow, I didn't know employers could appeal after approval. That's concerning.
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Yuki Tanaka
•It doesn't happen often, but it can. As long as you're honest about everything, you should be fine.
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Aileen Rodriguez
Performance issues vs misconduct is the key distinction. Misconduct means you willfully violated company rules or were grossly negligent. Just not being good enough at your job typically isn't misconduct under Washington ESD rules.
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Tasia Synder
•That makes sense. I wasn't breaking rules or anything, just maybe not fast enough at processing returns.
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Aileen Rodriguez
•Exactly. Speed or skill issues aren't misconduct. You should be fine as long as you weren't stealing, fighting, or deliberately ignoring instructions.
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Zane Gray
•What if they say you were 'insubordinate' though? That sounds more serious.
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Maggie Martinez
ugh the washington esd system is so confusing. i got fired 3 months ago and still fighting my case. they said i was denied but i appealed and now waiting for a hearing date. the whole process takes forever
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Tasia Synder
•That sounds stressful. Are you getting any income while waiting for the appeal?
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Maggie Martinez
•nope, nothing. had to move back with my parents. hopefully the hearing goes better than the initial decision
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Amina Diop
THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS!!! Employers can fire you for any BS reason and then dispute your unemployment claim to avoid paying higher taxes. It's disgusting.
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Miguel Castro
•That's what I'm worried about. My company might try to fight it.
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Zainab Abdulrahman
•Even if they dispute it, Washington ESD will investigate both sides. Don't let employer pushback scare you from filing.
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Connor Byrne
Quick tip - when you file make sure you have all your employment details ready including exact dates, wages, and reason for separation. It makes the process smoother.
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Miguel Castro
•Should I include the documentation I mentioned about my absences?
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Connor Byrne
•Definitely keep that handy but you probably won't need it until the adjudication process if your employer disputes the claim.
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Alejandro Castro
Make sure you document everything about your termination while it's fresh in your memory. Write down exactly what was said, who was present, any context about your performance reviews, etc. This will help if your claim goes to adjudication.
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Tasia Synder
•Great advice. I should probably write down what happened today while I remember all the details.
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Alejandro Castro
•Yes! Include dates, times, and exact quotes if you can remember them. Even small details can matter during the adjudication process.
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Amara Adebayo
File your claim ASAP because there's a waiting period before benefits start anyway. Even if there's an adjudication issue to resolve, getting your claim in the system sooner rather than later is always better.
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Mateo Lopez
•Already planning to file today. Thanks for the reminder about the waiting period.
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Oliver Weber
ugh been there... getting fired sucks but at least unemployment helps bridge the gap while you job hunt
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Miguel Castro
•Yeah I'm hoping I can get something soon. The job market seems tough right now.
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Monique Byrd
I'm dealing with something similar right now. Got let go for 'not meeting expectations' but never received any coaching or improvement plans. My claim has been in adjudication for 2 weeks. The waiting is killing me financially.
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Tasia Synder
•Sorry you're going through this too. Have you been able to get any updates on your case?
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Monique Byrd
•I've been trying to call Washington ESD but can never get through. Might try that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier.
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Jackie Martinez
•Yeah I used Claimyr last month when I couldn't reach anyone about my weekly claim issues. Worth it just to talk to an actual person.
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Lia Quinn
The employer has to prove misconduct, not the other way around. If they can't provide documentation of warnings, progressive discipline, or clear policy violations, you'll likely be approved. Washington ESD generally gives claimants the benefit of the doubt in borderline cases.
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Tasia Synder
•That's reassuring. I don't think they have much documentation since there were no formal warnings.
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Lia Quinn
•Exactly. Lack of progressive discipline is actually strong evidence in your favor. Most employers who fire for legitimate misconduct have a paper trail.
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Giovanni Rossi
My cousin got fired for attendance issues and still qualified for benefits because she had legitimate medical reasons for the absences. Every situation is unique, so don't assume you're automatically disqualified.
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Fatima Al-Mansour
•That's a good point. Medical issues that affect attendance are usually treated differently than just skipping work.
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Zainab Abdulrahman
One more thing - make sure you understand the job search requirements once you start receiving benefits. You'll need to log your job search activities and be available for work.
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Miguel Castro
•How many jobs do I need to apply for each week?
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Zainab Abdulrahman
•It depends on your situation but typically 3 job search activities per week. Check the requirements when you file your weekly claims.
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Natasha Romanova
•I think it's actually 2 activities per week now, not 3. They changed it recently.
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Zainab Abdulrahman
•You might be right - the requirements do change. Best to check the current guidelines on the Washington ESD website.
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Haley Stokes
whatever you do dont lie on the application. be honest about being fired but explain it was performance related not misconduct. lying will get you in way more trouble than being fired ever could
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Tasia Synder
•Definitely planning to be completely honest. Better to deal with adjudication than get caught lying later.
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Asher Levin
I got approved after being fired for performance issues. Took about a month for adjudication but Washington ESD sided with me. The key was showing I was trying to improve and that the employer didn't give me adequate support or warning.
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Tasia Synder
•That gives me hope. Did you have to provide any evidence of trying to improve?
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Asher Levin
•I mentioned specific things I had done to try to get better at the job, like asking for extra training or staying late to catch up. Show you were engaged, not just coasting.
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Serene Snow
Don't let them intimidate you into not filing. Some employers will try to discourage you by saying you won't qualify, but they don't make that decision - Washington ESD does. File your claim and let the system work.
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Tasia Synder
•Good point. My manager did seem pretty confident I wouldn't get benefits, but maybe she was just trying to discourage me.
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Serene Snow
•Employers often don't know the actual rules as well as they think they do. Let Washington ESD make the determination based on the facts.
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Issac Nightingale
File online at secure.esd.wa.gov as soon as possible. The application asks directly about the reason for separation and gives you space to explain your side. Be thorough but honest in your explanation.
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Tasia Synder
•Thanks for the link. I'll start the application tonight. Should I mention that I never got any warnings?
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Issac Nightingale
•Yes, definitely mention the lack of progressive discipline. That's important information for your case.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
Remember that if your claim gets denied initially, you have the right to appeal. The appeals process gives you a chance to present your case to an administrative law judge who can overturn Washington ESD's initial decision if they find it was incorrect.
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Mateo Lopez
•How long do you have to file an appeal if your claim gets denied?
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Zoe Papadopoulos
•You have 30 days from the date of the determination notice to file your appeal. Don't wait - file it as soon as possible if you disagree with their decision.
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Dylan Evans
honestly the whole process is stressful but most people who get fired for non-misconduct reasons do end up getting approved eventually. just prepare for it to potentially take some time if there's an investigation
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Mateo Lopez
•That's reassuring. I just need to be patient and let the process work.
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Carmen Ortiz
Update on that Claimyr service I mentioned - I actually used it again last week to check on a different issue with my claim. Still works great for getting through to Washington ESD when you can't reach them the normal way. Just thought I'd mention it again since a few people seemed interested.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•I'm definitely going to try it. Been calling Washington ESD for weeks with no luck.
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Sofia Gomez
•How much does something like that cost? Seems too good to be true.
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Carmen Ortiz
•It's worth checking out their site for details. For me, it was worth it just to get through and get my questions answered.
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