Can you apply for unemployment if you got fired Washington ESD?
I got terminated from my retail job last week after working there for 8 months. My manager said it was for performance issues but I feel like they were nitpicking everything I did. I've never filed for unemployment before and I'm not sure if I'm even eligible since I was fired rather than laid off. Can you still apply for Washington ESD benefits if you got fired? What do I need to know before I file my claim?
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Ben Cooper
Yes, you can absolutely apply for unemployment even if you were fired! Washington ESD will determine if you're eligible based on the specific circumstances. If you were fired for misconduct, that's different than being fired for poor performance or not being a good fit. You should definitely file your claim and let them make the determination.
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Khalid Howes
•That's a relief to hear. I was worried they'd automatically deny me because I was terminated. Should I mention the performance issues when I file?
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Ben Cooper
•Be honest about what happened but don't elaborate unnecessarily. Just stick to the facts about why your employer said you were terminated.
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Naila Gordon
The key thing Washington ESD looks at is whether you were fired for 'misconduct' vs other reasons. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless you were deliberately doing something wrong. Things like theft, violence, or repeatedly violating clear policies would be misconduct.
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Khalid Howes
•It was definitely just performance stuff - like they said I wasn't fast enough at stocking shelves and made some mistakes on the register. Nothing dishonest or deliberate.
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Naila Gordon
•That sounds like it should qualify then. Performance issues are usually not considered misconduct for UI purposes.
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Cynthia Love
I went through this exact situation last year when I got fired from my warehouse job. Washington ESD approved my claim even though I was terminated. The process took about 3 weeks total including the adjudication period where they reviewed everything.
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Khalid Howes
•Did your employer try to fight your claim? I'm worried mine might contest it.
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Cynthia Love
•They did contest it initially but Washington ESD still approved me after reviewing both sides of the story. Even if they contest, you can still get benefits if you qualify.
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Darren Brooks
•Same thing happened to me. My old boss contested but I still got approved. The key is being honest about what happened.
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Rosie Harper
Here's what you need to know: file your claim immediately, don't wait. Washington ESD can backdate benefits but only to when you first became unemployed. When you file, you'll need your Social Security number, driver's license, and employment history for the last 18 months including employer names, addresses, and dates worked.
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Khalid Howes
•Should I file online or call? I've heard the phone lines are really busy.
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Rosie Harper
•File online at esd.wa.gov if possible. It's much faster than trying to get through on the phone. The system walks you through everything step by step.
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Elliott luviBorBatman
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Khalid Howes
•Is that legit? I've never heard of using a service to call government agencies.
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Elliott luviBorBatman
•yeah it's real, they basically handle all the calling and waiting for you then connect you when an agent picks up. worth it if you're stuck like I was
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Demi Hall
•I was skeptical about Claimyr at first but used them when my claim got stuck in adjudication. Got through to Washington ESD in like 20 minutes instead of spending all day calling.
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Darren Brooks
Make sure you understand the difference between being fired and laid off on your application. Being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you but you want to be accurate about the circumstances. Washington ESD will contact your employer to verify the reason for termination.
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Khalid Howes
•What if my employer lies about why they fired me? I'm worried they might make it sound worse than it was.
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Darren Brooks
•Washington ESD will give you a chance to respond to anything your employer says. That's part of the adjudication process. Just stick to the truth.
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Mateusius Townsend
Been there! Got fired from my last job for 'attendance issues' even though I had documented medical reasons for some absences. Still got approved for benefits because Washington ESD determined it wasn't willful misconduct. The whole process was way less scary than I thought it would be.
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Khalid Howes
•How long did it take to get your first payment after you were approved?
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Mateusius Townsend
•About a week after approval. Make sure you file your weekly claims every week even while your initial claim is being reviewed.
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Kara Yoshida
just a heads up - even if you get approved, you still have to do the job search requirements. its like 3 job search activities per week and you have to keep a log. they can audit you at any time so keep good records
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Khalid Howes
•What counts as a job search activity? Just applying for jobs?
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Kara Yoshida
•applying for jobs, networking events, career fairs, updating your resume, taking online career courses. there's a whole list on the Washington ESD website
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Philip Cowan
The Washington ESD adjudication process can be nerve-wracking but try not to stress too much. They review thousands of these cases and they're pretty fair about it. If you weren't stealing or doing anything deliberately wrong, you'll probably be fine.
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Khalid Howes
•Thanks, that makes me feel better. I keep worrying they'll think I was a bad employee.
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Philip Cowan
•Performance issues happen to everyone. The unemployment system exists to help people between jobs, not to judge whether you were the perfect employee.
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Caesar Grant
File ASAP! I made the mistake of waiting two weeks thinking I might find another job quickly and it delayed my whole claim. Washington ESD benefits don't start until you file, no matter when you actually became unemployed.
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Khalid Howes
•Good point. I'll file today then. Better safe than sorry.
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Caesar Grant
•Exactly. You can always stop claiming benefits if you find a job right away, but you can't get back those weeks if you wait to file.
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Lena Schultz
Does anyone know if getting fired affects how much you can receive? I thought I read somewhere that it might reduce your benefit amount but I'm not sure if that's true.
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Ben Cooper
•No, the reason for termination doesn't affect your benefit amount. That's calculated based on your wages during your base period, not why you became unemployed.
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Lena Schultz
•Oh good, I was worried about that. Thanks for clarifying.
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Gemma Andrews
I got fired from my last job for 'not meeting expectations' which was basically the same as performance issues. Washington ESD approved my claim after about 2 weeks of adjudication. My employer didn't even contest it. Sometimes employers are more understanding than you think they'll be.
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Khalid Howes
•That's encouraging. I hope my situation goes as smoothly.
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Gemma Andrews
•Just be honest and don't overthink it. The system is designed to help people who lost their jobs through no fault of their own.
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Pedro Sawyer
FYI if your claim goes into adjudication and you can't get through to Washington ESD by phone, that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier actually works. I used it when I needed to check on my adjudication status and couldn't get through after calling for days. Worth checking out at claimyr.com if you get stuck.
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Khalid Howes
•I'll keep that in mind if I run into problems. Hopefully I won't need it but good to know it's an option.
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Pedro Sawyer
•Yeah, hopefully you won't need it but Washington ESD phone lines can be brutal during busy periods.
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Mae Bennett
Make sure you have all your documentation ready when you file. They'll ask for specific dates and details about your employment. If you have any write-ups or performance reviews, keep those handy in case Washington ESD asks for more information during the review process.
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Khalid Howes
•I don't have copies of my write-ups but I remember the general dates. Is that okay?
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Mae Bennett
•General dates should be fine for the initial application. If they need exact documentation, they'll ask for it later.
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Beatrice Marshall
One thing to remember is that even if your claim gets denied initially, you can appeal. The appeal process gives you another chance to explain your side of the story. I've seen people win appeals even after being denied the first time.
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Khalid Howes
•How long do you have to file an appeal if you get denied?
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Beatrice Marshall
•I think it's 30 days from the date of the denial letter, but don't quote me on that. The denial letter will have the exact deadline.
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Melina Haruko
don't let anyone scare you about being fired vs laid off. i got fired from 3 different jobs and got unemployment every time. as long as you weren't doing anything really bad, washington esd is pretty reasonable about approving claims
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Khalid Howes
•Three times? That actually makes me feel better about my one termination.
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Melina Haruko
•yeah life happens, jobs don't always work out. that's exactly what unemployment insurance is for
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Dallas Villalobos
Just wanted to add that you should keep filing your weekly claims even while your initial claim is under review. If you get approved, you'll get paid for all those weeks retroactively. If you don't file the weekly claims, you won't get paid for those weeks even if approved.
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Khalid Howes
•Good to know! I would have probably waited until I got approved to start filing weekly claims.
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Dallas Villalobos
•Yeah, that's a common mistake that costs people money. File everything right away and let Washington ESD sort it out.
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Reina Salazar
The bottom line is that performance-related terminations are usually eligible for benefits. Washington ESD distinguishes between being fired for misconduct (which disqualifies you) and being fired for other reasons like performance or not being a good fit (which usually doesn't disqualify you). File your claim and let them make the determination.
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Khalid Howes
•Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to file my claim today and see what happens.
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Ben Cooper
•Good luck! Hope everything works out for you.
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Reina Salazar
•You've got this! The worst they can do is say no, but based on what you've described, you'll probably be approved.
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