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Rami Samuels

Fired from job can I get unemployment benefits in Washington state?

I got terminated from my retail job last week after working there for 8 months. My manager said it was due to 'performance issues' but I feel like it was unfair. I've never filed for unemployment before and I'm not sure if I can even get benefits since I was fired instead of laid off. Does anyone know if Washington ESD will approve my claim? I'm really worried about paying rent next month and need to know if it's worth applying or if I'll just get denied.

You can definitely apply for unemployment even if you were fired. Washington ESD will investigate the circumstances of your termination. If they determine you weren't fired for 'misconduct' then you should be eligible. Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless it was willful or negligent behavior.

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That's good to know! What exactly counts as misconduct in Washington? I was never written up or anything, they just said my sales numbers weren't meeting expectations.

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Misconduct in Washington typically means things like theft, violence, deliberate violation of company policy, or excessive absences. Poor performance or not meeting sales goals usually isn't considered misconduct if you were trying to do your job.

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File your claim ASAP! Even if there's going to be an adjudication process, you want to get your claim date established. I was fired from my warehouse job last year and it took about 3 weeks for them to make a decision, but I did get approved.

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How long did the whole process take from filing to getting your first payment?

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About 5 weeks total. 3 weeks for adjudication, then another week or two for the payment to actually come through.

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How much does something like that cost? Seems like it might be expensive.

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It's way cheaper than losing weeks of benefits waiting to get through. The peace of mind alone was worth it for me.

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I might look into that if I have trouble reaching someone. Thanks for the suggestion!

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The Washington ESD website has a whole section about misconduct vs. non-misconduct terminations. Generally speaking, if you were doing your best but just couldn't meet expectations, that's not misconduct. But if your employer fights your claim, you might need to provide documentation or testimony about your work performance.

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Should I save any paperwork from my job? I have my last performance review which wasn't great but didn't mention any disciplinary action.

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Yes! Keep everything - performance reviews, emails, schedules, anything that shows you were trying to do your job properly. That documentation could be important if there's a hearing.

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ugh the whole system is so stressful. I got fired 6 months ago and it took forever to get my benefits sorted out. The worst part is not knowing if you'll get approved or not

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Did you end up getting approved? What was your situation like?

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yeah eventually but it was like 2 months of uncertainty which was awful when you have bills to pay

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Make sure when you file your claim online, you're completely honest about the reason for termination. Don't try to sugar coat it or make it sound better than it was. Washington ESD will contact your employer anyway, so any discrepancies will just hurt your case.

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Good point. I'll just say exactly what my manager told me - that it was due to performance issues with sales targets.

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This is so important! I've seen people get denied because their story didn't match what their employer reported to Washington ESD.

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One thing to remember is that even if your claim goes to adjudication, you should keep filing your weekly claims while you wait for a decision. If you get approved, you'll get back pay for those weeks.

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Oh I didn't know that! So I should file weekly claims even before I know if I'm approved?

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Yes, exactly. You don't want to miss out on benefits for weeks you were unemployed just because the decision was pending.

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I'm dealing with something similar right now. Got 'let go' from my customer service job 3 weeks ago. Still waiting to hear back from Washington ESD about my claim. The waiting is the worst part!

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Have you tried calling them to check on your status?

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I've tried but the phone lines are always busy. Might have to look into that Claimyr thing someone mentioned earlier.

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Just remember you have to be actively looking for work and documenting your job searches. Washington has specific requirements about how many jobs you need to apply for each week.

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How many job applications do I need to do per week in Washington?

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It's typically 3 job search activities per week, but check the current requirements when you file. They can change and you want to make sure you're compliant.

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Another thing - if your employer contests your claim, don't panic. Lots of employers automatically contest every unemployment claim to try to keep their rates low. Washington ESD will look at the actual facts of your case, not just what your employer says.

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That's somewhat reassuring. I'm worried my old boss will try to make it sound worse than it was.

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They investigate both sides. Just stick to the facts and you should be fine if it really wasn't misconduct.

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The key thing is that in Washington, the burden is on the employer to prove misconduct occurred. If they can't provide solid evidence that you did something intentionally wrong or violated clear company policies, you should get approved.

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That makes me feel better. I really was trying my best at that job, the sales targets were just unrealistic.

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File online at esd.wa.gov as soon as possible. The sooner you file, the sooner your waiting week starts and the sooner you can start receiving benefits if approved.

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I'll do that today. Thanks everyone for all the advice!

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Good luck with your claim! Remember to keep copies of everything you submit and document all your communications with Washington ESD. It helps if you need to reference anything later.

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Will do. This forum has been super helpful - I feel much more confident about filing now.

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If you do run into issues getting through to Washington ESD by phone, I really can't recommend Claimyr enough. I was stuck for weeks trying to get my adjudication status, and they got me through to an actual person who could help. Sometimes you just need to talk to a human to get things moving.

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I was skeptical about services like that at first, but honestly when you're dealing with potentially losing weeks of benefits, it makes sense to use whatever tools are available.

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I'll definitely keep that in mind if I hit any roadblocks. Thanks again!

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One last tip - if your claim does get denied initially, you have the right to appeal. Don't give up if the first decision doesn't go your way. The appeals process gives you another chance to present your case.

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How long do you have to file an appeal if you get denied?

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You have 30 days from the date of the determination letter to file an appeal. Don't wait - do it as soon as possible if you disagree with the decision.

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Hope everything works out for you! The uncertainty is really stressful but most people who get fired for performance reasons rather than misconduct do end up getting approved eventually.

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Thanks! That gives me some hope. I'll update this thread once I hear back from Washington ESD.

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definitely keep us posted! always good to hear how these situations turn out for other people in similar spots

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Will do. Hopefully it'll be good news to share!

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The Washington ESD adjudication process can seem scary but they really do try to be fair. As long as you were honest in your application and the termination really wasn't due to misconduct, you should be okay.

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That's reassuring. I was completely honest about everything so hopefully that works in my favor.

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Update on my situation - I finally got through to someone at Washington ESD using that Claimyr service. Turns out my claim was approved but there was a delay in the system updating. Sometimes you really do need to talk to a person to get the real status.

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That's great news! How long did it take Claimyr to get you connected?

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Less than 24 hours. Much better than the weeks I spent trying to call myself.

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Glad it worked out for you! Sometimes these systems just need a human touch to get things moving.

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Remember that while you're waiting for your claim decision, you should still be actively job searching and keeping track of your activities. Washington requires documentation of your job search efforts.

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Good reminder. I've already started applying to other retail positions and keeping a log of everything.

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