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Washington ESD unemployment if I get fired - do I qualify?

My boss has been really unhappy with my performance lately and I'm worried I might get fired soon. If that happens, would I be able to get unemployment benefits through Washington ESD? I've heard mixed things about whether you can collect if you're terminated for cause vs just laid off. I've been at this job for about 8 months and live paycheck to paycheck so I'm really stressed about this possibility. Does anyone know how Washington ESD handles these situations?

It depends on WHY you get fired. If it's for misconduct or willful violation of company policy, Washington ESD will likely deny your claim. But if it's just poor performance or not being a good fit, you should still qualify for unemployment benefits.

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What counts as misconduct exactly? I haven't done anything like stealing or showing up drunk, it's more like missing deadlines and making mistakes.

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Missing deadlines and mistakes usually aren't misconduct unless you were doing it intentionally. Washington ESD looks for deliberate violations of reasonable employer expectations.

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I got fired from my last job for attendance issues and still got approved for UI benefits. Washington ESD said it wasn't misconduct because I had legitimate reasons for some of my absences. You should definitely apply even if you're not sure - let them make the determination.

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That gives me some hope. How long did it take for them to make a decision on your claim?

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About 3 weeks. They had to do an adjudication interview with both me and my former employer to get both sides of the story.

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Same here - got fired for performance and still got benefits. The key is being honest about what happened when you file.

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Here's what Washington ESD considers when you're fired: 1) Was it misconduct connected to your work? 2) Did you knowingly violate a reasonable company policy? 3) Were you acting in the employer's best interest? Performance issues, personality conflicts, or lack of skills usually don't disqualify you from unemployment benefits.

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This is really helpful. I think my situation would fall under performance issues rather than misconduct.

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What if they claim you violated a policy but you didn't know about it? My employer had rules buried in some handbook I never saw.

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Washington ESD will consider whether the policy was clearly communicated and if the violation was willful. Hidden policies aren't usually grounds for misconduct disqualification.

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whatever you do file IMMEDIATELY if you get fired. Don't wait around thinking about it. Washington ESD has that whole first week waiting period anyway so the sooner you file the sooner you might see money.

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Good point about filing right away. I'll make sure to do that if it happens.

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Yeah and make sure you have all your employment info ready - dates, wages, reason for separation etc.

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I got fired for being late too many times and Washington ESD approved my claim. They said chronic tardiness isn't necessarily misconduct unless it's willful disregard for the job. Since I had car problems that caused some of the tardiness, they considered it understandable.

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That's encouraging. I've had some attendance issues too but for legitimate reasons like sick kid.

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Exactly - having legitimate reasons makes a big difference in how Washington ESD views the situation.

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The key is documenting those legitimate reasons if you have them. Washington ESD wants to see that you weren't just being careless or intentionally problematic.

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honestly the washington esd system is so backed up right now that even if you qualify it might take forever to get paid. my friend got approved but didn't see her first payment for like 6 weeks because of some computer glitch

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That's scary. I really can't go 6 weeks without income if I lose this job.

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That's why you gotta stay on top of them. Keep calling and checking your claim status online regularly.

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Just make sure you're honest about the circumstances when you file. Washington ESD will contact your employer anyway so lying will just hurt your case. I've seen people get denied for being dishonest even when they would have qualified if they told the truth.

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Definitely planning to be completely honest. Not worth risking benefits over.

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Good attitude. Washington ESD appreciates honesty and it makes the whole process smoother.

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Been there done that. Got fired from retail job for 'poor customer service' and still got unemployment. Washington ESD said poor performance isn't the same as misconduct. Just be prepared for them to ask lots of questions about what happened.

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What kind of questions did they ask you during the adjudication process?

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Stuff like exactly what your employer said when they fired you, whether you knew you were having performance problems, if you tried to improve, etc.

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This is exactly why I used Claimyr to talk to Washington ESD directly. So much easier to get clarity on your specific situation when you can actually reach an agent.

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Don't assume you won't qualify! I thought for sure I'd be denied because I got fired for arguing with my supervisor, but Washington ESD said it was a personality conflict not misconduct. Apply and let them decide.

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Wow, even arguing with your boss didn't disqualify you? That gives me more confidence.

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Right? I was shocked too. Apparently one argument doesn't equal a pattern of insubordination or misconduct.

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WASHINGTON ESD IS THE WORST to deal with when you're already stressed about losing your job. The phone system is impossible and the website is confusing as hell. But stick with it because you probably do qualify for benefits.

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Yeah I've heard their phone system is terrible. Guess I better prepare for frustration if I have to file.

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That's exactly why services like Claimyr exist - to cut through all that phone system nonsense and get you connected to someone who can actually help.

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I've been trying to reach them for 2 weeks about my claim. Maybe I should check out that Claimyr thing too.

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my cousin got fired for excessive personal phone calls at work and still got unemployment benefits. Washington ESD said it wasn't serious enough misconduct to deny benefits. So definitely apply no matter what the reason was.

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These stories are really helping me feel less worried about potentially qualifying.

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Same here - I always thought getting fired meant no unemployment but apparently that's not true most of the time.

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Remember you have to actively look for work while collecting unemployment benefits. Washington ESD requires you to make job search contacts every week and keep a log. Don't forget about that part!

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Good reminder. How many job contacts do you need to make per week?

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I think it's 3 per week for most people but check with Washington ESD because it might depend on your situation.

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It's typically 3 job search activities per week, and they need to be documented in your online account or personal log.

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If you do get fired, file online at Washington ESD's website right away. Don't try to call first - just file the claim and they'll contact you if they need more info. The online system works better than their phones.

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Thanks for the tip about filing online first. That sounds like the best approach.

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Yeah the online filing is pretty straightforward. Just have your employment info ready before you start.

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One thing to watch out for - if your employer contests your claim, it might delay your benefits while Washington ESD investigates. But don't let that discourage you from filing. Most terminations for poor performance don't get contested.

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What happens if they do contest it? How long does that investigation take?

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Usually takes a few weeks for the adjudication interview and decision. But you can still file weekly claims during that time.

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My employer contested mine but I still won. Washington ESD was fair about looking at both sides of the story.

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Bottom line - unless you did something really bad like stealing, violence, or repeatedly violating clear policies after warnings, you'll probably qualify for unemployment benefits. Performance issues alone rarely disqualify people.

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This whole thread has been so helpful. I feel much less anxious about the possibility now.

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Glad we could help! Just remember to file immediately if it happens and be honest about everything.

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Also keep in mind that even if Washington ESD initially denies your claim, you can appeal the decision. I know someone who got approved on appeal after being denied initially. Don't give up if the first answer isn't what you want to hear.

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Good to know there's an appeal process if needed. How long do you have to file an appeal?

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I think it's 30 days from when you get the denial letter, but double check that with Washington ESD.

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That's correct - 30 days to file an appeal from the date of the determination letter.

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Been following this thread and wanted to add that I used Claimyr recently when I couldn't get through to Washington ESD about my weekly claim issue. Totally worth it to actually talk to a real person instead of dealing with busy signals all day. The video demo on their site shows exactly how the process works.

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Seems like a lot of people have had success with that service. I'll keep it in mind if I need to reach Washington ESD.

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Yeah I'm definitely bookmarking that for when I need to call them. Those phone lines are impossible otherwise.

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Hope you don't get fired but if you do, you'll probably be fine benefit-wise. Most terminations I've seen for performance issues still qualify for unemployment. Washington ESD understands that sometimes jobs just aren't a good fit.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses. I feel so much better about this situation now. You've all been amazing!

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Good luck with everything! Hope your job situation improves either way.

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