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Mei Liu

When you get fired can you collect unemployment - Washington ESD eligibility questions

Got terminated from my job last Friday and I'm not sure if I can even apply for unemployment benefits. My manager said it was due to 'performance issues' but honestly I think they just wanted to get rid of me because I complained about working conditions. Can you still collect unemployment through Washington ESD when you get fired? I've heard conflicting things about whether being terminated disqualifies you automatically or if it depends on the reason. Really stressed about this since I have rent due next week and no other income lined up.

Yes, you can potentially collect unemployment even if you were fired, but it depends on the specific circumstances. Washington ESD will look at whether you were terminated for 'misconduct' or just general performance issues. If it was performance-related and not willful misconduct, you should be eligible. File your claim right away - don't wait.

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Mei Liu

What exactly counts as misconduct vs performance issues? I was never written up formally, just had a few conversations with my supervisor about productivity.

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Misconduct typically involves things like theft, violence, deliberate policy violations, or refusing to follow reasonable instructions. Poor performance, lack of skills, or just not being a good fit usually doesn't qualify as misconduct under Washington ESD rules.

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File your claim immediately online at esd.wa.gov. The worst thing that can happen is they deny it, but you lose nothing by trying. When you file, be honest about being terminated but emphasize it was performance-related, not misconduct. Washington ESD will contact your employer to get their side of the story during the adjudication process.

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Mei Liu

How long does the adjudication process usually take? I really need to know if I'll have income coming in.

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Adjudication can take anywhere from 2-6 weeks depending on how complex your case is and how quickly your employer responds to Washington ESD's inquiry.

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I was in a similar situation last year - got fired for 'not meeting expectations' after 8 months on the job. Washington ESD approved my claim because my employer couldn't prove it was willful misconduct. The key is they have to show you deliberately did something wrong, not just that you weren't good at the job. Definitely apply!

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Mei Liu

That's encouraging to hear! Did you have any issues during the application process?

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The hardest part was actually getting through to someone at Washington ESD when I had questions. I ended up using this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get connected to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works.

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Don't let them intimidate you into thinking you can't collect. Employers sometimes tell people they can't get unemployment to discourage them from filing. Washington ESD makes the final determination, not your former employer. File your claim and let the system work.

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Mei Liu

You're right, I shouldn't just take their word for it. Going to file today.

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Exactly! I've seen too many people get scared off by what their employer tells them. File the claim and fight for your benefits if needed.

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wait so if you get fired for like being late all the time or not doing your job right you can still get unemployment?? that seems weird

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Being chronically late could be considered misconduct if it was willful and you were warned about it. But just struggling with job performance when you're trying your best usually isn't misconduct under Washington ESD guidelines.

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oh ok that makes more sense i guess

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Been through this exact situation. The employer will likely contest your claim, so be prepared for that. Keep any documentation you have - emails, performance reviews, anything that shows it wasn't misconduct. Washington ESD will schedule a phone interview with you if the employer contests it.

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Mei Liu

What happens in the phone interview? Should I be worried about that?

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It's just them asking you to explain your side of what happened. Be honest and stick to the facts. They're trying to determine if you were fired for misconduct or just performance issues.

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Mei Liu

Thanks, that helps calm my nerves a bit about the process.

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File your weekly claims even while your initial claim is under review. If you're eventually approved, you'll get paid for those weeks retroactively. Don't miss out on benefits because you're waiting for the adjudication decision.

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Mei Liu

Good point, I didn't think about that. So I should keep filing weekly even if my claim is still pending?

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Yes, absolutely. You have to file weekly claims to maintain your eligibility. Even if your initial claim is under review, keep filing those weekly claims.

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Make sure you understand the difference between being fired 'for cause' vs just being let go. If your employer can't prove misconduct, you should be fine. Performance issues alone usually don't disqualify you from Washington ESD benefits.

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Mei Liu

They said 'performance issues' on my termination paperwork, so hopefully that works in my favor.

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That's actually good for you. 'Performance issues' suggests they couldn't point to specific misconduct.

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I hate how stressful this system is when you're already dealing with losing your job. Washington ESD should make it clearer what qualifies and what doesn't instead of making people guess.

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Mei Liu

Seriously! I'm already stressed about money and now I have to worry about whether I even qualify for help.

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This is exactly why I ended up using Claimyr when I had questions. Sometimes you just need to talk to an actual person who can explain your specific situation.

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The burden of proof is on the employer to show misconduct. If they can't provide specific examples of policy violations or willful bad behavior, Washington ESD will typically approve your claim. Don't give up if they initially deny it - you can appeal.

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Mei Liu

How do you appeal if they deny your claim initially?

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You'll get information about the appeals process in your denial letter. You typically have 30 days to file an appeal and request a hearing.

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Just went through this whole process myself. Got fired in November, applied for unemployment, employer contested it, had a phone hearing, and was approved in December. The key is being honest about what happened and not getting defensive.

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Mei Liu

What was the phone hearing like? I'm nervous about having to explain everything.

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It was actually pretty straightforward. They asked me to explain what happened, asked a few clarifying questions, and that was it. Lasted maybe 15 minutes.

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Mei Liu

That doesn't sound too bad. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Remember that unemployment benefits are insurance that you paid into while you were working. You're not asking for charity - you're claiming benefits you're entitled to if you meet the eligibility requirements.

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Mei Liu

That's a good way to think about it. I did pay into the system while I was working.

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Exactly! Don't let anyone make you feel guilty about filing for benefits you earned.

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If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to ask questions about your claim, there are services that can help you connect with agents. I used one called Claimyr recently and it saved me hours of trying to call.

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Mei Liu

Is that the same service someone mentioned earlier? How does it work exactly?

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Yeah, it's claimyr.com. They basically call Washington ESD for you and connect you when they get an agent on the line. Really helpful when you have specific questions about your claim status.

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Whatever you do, don't delay filing your claim. Even if you're not sure about eligibility, it's better to file and potentially get denied than to wait and miss out on benefits you might have been entitled to.

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Mei Liu

Already filed this morning after reading all these responses. Feeling much better about my chances now.

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Good for you! Hope everything works out with your claim.

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The Washington ESD website has a lot of good information about misconduct vs non-misconduct terminations. Worth reading through their FAQ section while you're waiting for your claim to be processed.

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Mei Liu

I'll check that out. Any specific sections you'd recommend?

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Look for the section on 'Discharge for Misconduct' - it explains what Washington ESD considers misconduct and what doesn't qualify.

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been fired twice in my life and got unemployment both times. once for 'attitude problems' and once for not meeting sales targets. as long as you weren't stealing or fighting or something serious you should be fine

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Mei Liu

That's reassuring! Neither of those sound like misconduct to me.

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exactly. washington esd knows the difference between being bad at your job and being a bad employee

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Make sure you're actively looking for work and keeping track of your job search activities. You'll need to report this information when you file your weekly claims, even while your initial claim is under review.

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Mei Liu

How many jobs do I need to apply to each week?

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You need to make at least 3 job search activities per week. This can include applying for jobs, attending job fairs, networking events, etc. Keep detailed records.

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The fact that you're worried about this probably means you're not the type of person who would commit misconduct. File your claim and don't overthink it. Let Washington ESD make the determination based on the facts.

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Mei Liu

Thank you for the encouragement. All these responses have really helped me understand the process better.

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We've all been there. The unemployment system can be confusing but most people who file in good faith end up getting approved.

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One last thing - if your claim gets approved, don't spend the money assuming it's guaranteed. Sometimes employers win appeals even after initial approval. Keep some money set aside just in case, but don't stress too much about it.

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Mei Liu

Good advice. I'll try to be smart about budgeting if I do get approved for benefits.

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You'll do fine. Just take it one step at a time and don't let the process overwhelm you.

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I went through something similar last year - got terminated for "not being a cultural fit" after reporting safety violations. Washington ESD approved my claim because they determined it wasn't misconduct. The key thing to remember is that Washington law is actually pretty employee-friendly when it comes to unemployment eligibility. Even if your employer contests it (which they probably will), as long as you weren't fired for willful misconduct like theft, violence, or repeatedly refusing to follow reasonable instructions, you should be eligible. Performance issues, personality conflicts, or just not being good at the job typically don't disqualify you. File your claim today and make sure to keep filing your weekly claims even during the adjudication period. Good luck!

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Thanks for sharing your experience! It's really helpful to hear from someone who went through something similar with reporting violations. Did your employer try to retaliate or make the process difficult when they contested your claim? I'm worried mine might try to paint me as a problem employee since I did complain about working conditions before getting fired.

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They did try to contest it and made it sound like I was a "disruptive employee" during the hearing, but Washington ESD saw right through it. The fact that I had documented the safety issues I reported (emails, photos) really helped my case. Since you complained about working conditions before getting terminated, that actually strengthens your position - it could be seen as retaliation rather than legitimate performance issues. Make sure to mention that timeline when you file your claim and gather any documentation you have about the complaints you made. Washington ESD takes retaliation seriously.

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