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Washington ESD unemployment benefits if I am fired - what are my options?

I might be getting fired from my job next week due to performance issues. I've been struggling with my productivity lately and my manager has been documenting everything. If they terminate me, can I still file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD? I'm really worried about how I'll pay my bills if I can't get UI benefits. Has anyone been in this situation before?

It depends on the reason for termination. If you're fired for misconduct, Washington ESD will likely deny your claim. But if it's for performance issues or inability to do the job, you might still qualify. The key is whether it was 'misconduct' or just not being a good fit for the role.

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What exactly counts as misconduct? I haven't stolen anything or been insubordinate, just not meeting their expectations.

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Misconduct usually means willful violations of company policy, theft, harassment, or deliberately ignoring instructions. Poor performance alone typically doesn't count as misconduct unless you were refusing to try or improve.

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I got fired for attendance issues last year and Washington ESD approved my claim after a short adjudication period. They said it wasn't misconduct because I had medical reasons. You should definitely apply even if you're not sure.

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That's encouraging! How long did the adjudication take? I'm really anxious about the whole process.

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About 3 weeks for me. They had to contact my former employer to get their side of the story before making a decision.

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Even if you get fired, you should file for unemployment benefits immediately. Washington ESD will investigate and make a determination. Don't assume you won't qualify - let them decide. The worst thing that can happen is they deny the claim, but you might be surprised.

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Should I wait until I'm actually fired or can I file right after it happens?

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File immediately after your last day of work. Don't wait - there's a one-week waiting period anyway, so the sooner you file, the sooner you might start receiving benefits.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already worried about money.

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It's worth checking out their site for details. For me, the peace of mind of actually talking to someone at Washington ESD was valuable when I was stressed about my claim.

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The unemployment system is so messed up! They make you jump through hoops and then deny claims for ridiculous reasons. I know people who got fired for legitimate reasons and still couldn't get benefits because of technicalities.

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While the system can be frustrating, it's actually designed to help people who lose their jobs through no fault of their own. The key is understanding the rules and presenting your case clearly.

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Easy for you to say. Try dealing with it when you're already stressed about losing your job and income!

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been there, file anyway and see what happens

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Did you get approved when you were fired?

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yeah took a while but they approved it, wasn't misconduct just couldn't do the job right

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When you file your claim, be honest about the circumstances of your termination. Washington ESD will contact your employer anyway, so don't try to hide anything. Focus on explaining that you were trying to improve your performance and that any issues weren't due to willful misconduct.

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Should I gather any documentation before I file? I have some emails showing I was trying to improve.

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Yes, keep any documentation that shows you were making an effort to improve or that the issues were related to ability rather than attitude. Performance improvement plans, training records, or emails showing you were trying can help.

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Washington ESD looks at each case individually. I've seen people get approved after being fired for performance and others get denied for similar reasons. It really depends on the specific circumstances and how the employer presents the termination.

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That's both reassuring and terrifying at the same time. I guess I just have to file and hope for the best.

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That's really all you can do. Make sure you continue filing your weekly claims even if your initial claim is under review. Don't give up on the process.

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One thing I learned is that Washington ESD distinguishes between being fired for misconduct versus being fired for other reasons like poor performance, lack of skills, or personality conflicts. The burden is on the employer to prove misconduct.

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What if my employer tries to make it sound worse than it was? I'm worried they'll exaggerate to avoid paying higher unemployment taxes.

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You'll have a chance to respond to anything your employer says during the fact-finding process. Washington ESD will consider both sides before making a decision.

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Remember that even if your initial claim is denied, you have the right to appeal the decision. Many people don't realize this and just give up after the first denial. The appeals process gives you another chance to present your case.

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How long do you have to appeal if they deny the claim?

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You have 30 days from the date of the determination to file an appeal. Don't wait if you disagree with their decision - use all the time you have to prepare your case.

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I'm going through something similar right now. My performance review was terrible and I think they're building a case to fire me. I've been documenting everything and trying to show I'm making an effort to improve. This thread is really helpful.

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It's such a stressful situation, isn't it? I hope things work out for both of us.

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Definitely stressful. At least now I know I should file for unemployment right away if it happens. Thanks for asking this question!

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If you do get fired and need to reach Washington ESD quickly to discuss your situation, I'd recommend using Claimyr again. When I was dealing with my termination, I couldn't get through on the phone for weeks. Claimyr got me connected to an agent who helped clarify my case.

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I might need to look into that if I can't get through to them myself. Thanks for the recommendation.

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I've heard good things about services like that. Sometimes you just need to talk to a real person to understand your options.

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just file don't overthink it

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You're right, I'm probably overthinking this whole thing.

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yeah happens to everyone when they're stressed about money and jobs

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To summarize: performance-related terminations often qualify for unemployment benefits, misconduct-related terminations usually don't. File immediately after your last day of work, be honest about the circumstances, and don't give up if initially denied. You have appeal rights for a reason.

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This is really helpful. I feel a bit more confident about the process now. Thank you everyone for the advice!

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You're welcome. Remember that Washington ESD wants to help people who are unemployed through no fault of their own. Poor performance usually fits that category.

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The whole system is still a nightmare to deal with even when you qualify. Good luck getting through to anyone on the phone when you need help!

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That's exactly why I used Claimyr - saved me hours of frustration trying to get through to Washington ESD. Sometimes you need help navigating the system.

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Fair point. I probably should have looked into something like that instead of wasting so much time on hold.

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One last piece of advice: start your job search right away even if you're waiting for your claim to be approved. Washington ESD requires you to be actively looking for work to maintain eligibility, and it's better to start early.

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Good point. I should probably update my resume and start looking at job postings this weekend.

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Exactly. Plus, you never know - you might find something before your unemployment benefits even start.

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Washington ESD has gotten better about processing claims quickly, but termination cases can take longer because they need to investigate. Don't panic if it takes a few weeks to get a decision.

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A few weeks feels like forever when you're worried about bills, but I guess that's just how the process works.

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I know it's stressful, but try to stay positive. Most performance-related terminations do get approved eventually.

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I was fired for poor performance three months ago and got approved for benefits after a two-week adjudication. The key was being honest about trying to improve and showing it wasn't intentional misconduct. Don't lose hope!

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That's really encouraging to hear! It sounds like as long as you're honest and it's not misconduct, there's a good chance of approval.

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Exactly. Washington ESD understands that sometimes people just aren't a good fit for certain jobs, and that's not their fault.

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Final reminder: even if you think you might not qualify, file anyway. Washington ESD has the expertise to determine eligibility, and you might be surprised by the outcome. The application process is straightforward and you have nothing to lose by trying.

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Thank you all so much for the help and encouragement. I feel much better prepared to handle this situation now.

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You're welcome! Remember, losing a job is stressful enough without worrying about unemployment benefits. The system is there to help you get back on your feet.

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One more mention of Claimyr - if you end up needing to speak with Washington ESD about your claim status or have questions about the adjudication process, they can really help you get through. I wish I had known about them earlier in my unemployment journey.

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I bookmarked their site just in case. Hopefully I won't need it, but it's good to know the option exists.

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Smart thinking. Better to have the resource available than to struggle with busy phone lines when you're already stressed.

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