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Thank you all for the helpful responses! I think I understand better now - it sounds like at FRA, they'll automatically adjust my benefit amount going forward to account for months when benefits were withheld due to my earnings. I'll definitely keep detailed records of which months have benefits withheld and how much is withheld each year. I'm still a bit confused about the possibility of a lump sum that one person mentioned their sister received. I wonder if that might have been related to something else or maybe a retroactive payment of some kind? Either way, it sounds like I'm on the right track claiming survivor benefits now while continuing to work, and then letting my own retirement benefit grow until 70. I appreciate everyone taking the time to explain this complicated process!

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You're welcome! Your strategy sounds solid. The lump sum mentioned could have been retroactive benefits if her sister filed after FRA, or possibly underpayments being corrected. For your case, just keep good records of your earnings and which months benefits are withheld, and you should be fine. The adjustment at FRA should happen automatically, but it never hurts to follow up when you reach that age to make sure it was processed correctly.

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I went through something very similar when I started my survivor benefits at 62. The earnings test can definitely be confusing, especially when you get different explanations from different SSA representatives. From my experience, what happens is that SSA keeps track of all the months when your benefits were reduced or withheld due to the earnings test. Then at your FRA, they automatically recalculate your benefit to give you credit for those months - essentially treating you as if you had filed later than you actually did. This results in a permanently higher monthly benefit going forward. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier: make sure you understand exactly how much you're allowed to earn each year without penalty. The earnings limit changes annually, and in 2024 it's $22,320 for people under FRA. Any earnings above that amount result in $1 being withheld for every $2 you earn over the limit. Also, keep copies of all your annual earnings statements and any correspondence from SSA about benefit adjustments. This documentation becomes really helpful if you need to verify the recalculation was done correctly at FRA. Your strategy of claiming survivor benefits now while letting your own retirement benefit grow until 70 is exactly what I did, and it worked out well financially. Good luck with everything!

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Thank you for sharing your experience! This is really helpful to hear from someone who actually went through the process. I didn't realize the earnings limit was that specific - $22,320 for 2024. With my current salary of $87,000, I'm definitely going to have significant withholding each year. It's good to know that keeping documentation is important for verifying the FRA recalculation. Did you have any issues when they did your automatic adjustment, or did it go smoothly?

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One important thing to understand about these benefits - you might be eligible to switch to retirement benefits on your own record when you reach age 62 if that would pay more. Or you could switch to regular survivor benefits (not disability) when you reach full retirement age. It's worth having a benefits planning session with SSA once you're settled into these payments to understand your future options.

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I hadn't even thought about what happens when I reach retirement age. That's really good to know I might have options later on. I definitely need to have that planning session once things settle down.

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I'm sorry for your loss, and congratulations on your approval! As others have mentioned, this is actually a great outcome. Surviving Spouse Disability Benefits can often provide better monthly payments than regular SSDI, especially if your husband had higher lifetime earnings. One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure to keep SSA updated if you ever remarry, as that could affect these benefits. Also, if you have any dependent children under 18 (or disabled adult children), they might be eligible for additional benefits on your husband's record too. The fact that you got approved on your first application is really remarkable given how strict the process has become. Take some time to process this good news - you've got financial security coming your way during what I'm sure has been an incredibly difficult time.

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Thank you so much for the kind words and condolences. I really appreciate everyone here taking the time to explain this - I was honestly panicking thinking I'd somehow gotten the wrong type of benefits or that there was some mistake. It's such a relief to know this is actually a good thing and that I got approved on the first try. I don't have any dependent children, but it's good to know about the remarriage rule. Right now I can't even imagine that, but it's important information for the future. This community has been so helpful in making sense of something that felt completely overwhelming.

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When I switched from my disability to retirement benefits last year, I got three different notices that all contradicted each other. One said I was approved, one said I needed to apply, and another had an incorrect benefit amount. I finally got it straightened out, but it took multiple calls. My advice is to keep a file with copies of EVERYTHING they send you. Take notes during every phone call including the representative's name and ID number. The SSA systems don't always communicate with each other, so having your own documentation is crucial. Also, don't be surprised if your first payment at the new benefit amount is slightly delayed. Mine was about 2 weeks late, but they eventually got it right with the correct amount.

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I went through this exact same situation about 8 months ago when I switched from survivor benefits to my own retirement at 67. The conflicting letters are unfortunately very common - SSA's different computer systems don't always sync up properly. Based on your description, you're in good shape! The MySocialSecurity account showing "approved but pending" is the most reliable indicator. That second letter telling you to apply online was almost certainly an automated notice that didn't recognize your phone application. A few things that helped me when I was in your shoes: - Screenshot your MySocialSecurity status page for your records - When you do call, ask them to confirm the exact benefit amount and start date - Make sure they have your correct Direct Deposit info on file The wait times are brutal, but if it gives you peace of mind, it's worth one call to confirm everything is set up correctly. My first payment at the new rate came right on schedule despite all the confusing paperwork I received beforehand. You should be all set, but I understand wanting that extra confirmation!

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This is so helpful to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! Taking a screenshot of the MySocialSecurity status page is such a smart idea - I'm definitely doing that today. It's reassuring to know that your payment came through on schedule despite all the confusing paperwork. I think I will make that one call just for peace of mind, but your experience gives me confidence that everything is probably already set up correctly. Thank you for sharing your experience!

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btw make sure u look at spousal benefits too...might be worth having lower earner take early and higher earner wait. thats what my parents did

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This strategy has changed since the 2015 budget act eliminated some file-and-suspend and restricted application options. Today, spousal benefits are automatically combined with your own retirement benefit, and you get the higher of the two amounts. Still worth calculating different claiming strategies though.

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As someone who works in financial planning, I can confirm what others have said - you're in great shape! With 25+ years of high earnings, those zero years won't significantly impact your benefits. The Social Security formula is progressive, meaning it replaces a higher percentage of lower earnings, so your high-earning years already put you near the maximum benefit range. One thing I'd suggest is running the numbers on delaying to age 70 vs claiming at 67. With your strong earnings history, that guaranteed 8% annual increase could be substantial over your lifetime, especially since you have rental income to bridge the gap. Also, don't forget that your Social Security benefits will be partially taxable given your other income sources.

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Has anyone here used a elder law attorney for the Medicaid lookback stuff?? How much did it cost?? My MIL had to go to nursing home and they took EVERYTHING she owned even tho she worked her whole life! So unfair!! I'm terrified of the same thing happening to us and leaving nothing for our kids... :

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We used an elder law attorney in 2023. Initial consultation was free, then about $3,500 for a comprehensive plan including irrevocable trust setup, powers of attorney, healthcare directives, and will updates. Expensive upfront but potentially saved hundreds of thousands in the long run. Worth every penny for the peace of mind alone. Just make sure you find someone who specializes specifically in elder law and Medicaid planning, not just any estate attorney.

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I'm in a similar situation - turned 62 last month and dealing with reduced hours at work due to company cutbacks. One thing that helped me was creating a spreadsheet comparing different scenarios. For your situation with the knees and physical demands, have you looked into whether you might qualify for disability benefits? Sometimes that can be a bridge until you reach FRA, and disability converts to regular retirement at your full retirement age without the early retirement reduction. Also, regarding the golf course work idea - that sounds perfect for staying under the earnings limit while keeping active. Golf courses often need seasonal help and understand retirees' schedules. Quick tip: You can create a my.ssa.gov account to see your exact benefit estimates at different claiming ages. Much more accurate than the general calculators, and it's free directly from SSA. The asset protection piece is complex, but one simple step is making sure both you and your wife understand what assets are exempt in your state. Primary residence often has some protection, and retirement accounts have different rules than regular savings.

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Great point about checking disability benefits first! I hadn't really considered that as an option, but with my knee issues and the physical demands of warehouse work, it might be worth exploring. Do you know if applying for disability affects your ability to claim regular retirement benefits later if the disability claim gets denied? The my.ssa.gov account tip is really helpful too - I'll set that up this week to get the exact numbers for my situation. And you're right about the golf course work being ideal for staying under that earnings limit. I've actually been thinking about that local municipal course - they're always looking for help during busy season and it would be way easier on my joints than standing on concrete all day. Thanks for the practical advice!

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