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my neighbor said she got extra $$ from SS by calling and asking for whats called a "benefit recalculation" after she stopped working. might be worth trying
I'm sorry to hear about your health challenges, Charlie. Unfortunately, the other commenters are correct - you cannot switch to SSDI after reaching your Full Retirement Age. However, I'd strongly encourage you to follow up on that benefit recalculation suggestion! Since you worked part-time until recently, those earnings from ages 62-67 might have increased your benefit amount. SSA is supposed to automatically recalculate annually, but sometimes they miss it or there are delays. Call them and specifically ask for a "benefit recalculation" based on your recent work history. Even a small increase would help with your medical expenses. Also, make sure to check if you qualify for any Medicare assistance programs for your arthritis medications - every little bit helps when you're on a fixed income.
This is really helpful advice, thank you Eli! I had no idea that working part-time after claiming early retirement could potentially increase my benefit amount. I always assumed once you started receiving benefits, that was it. I'm definitely going to call SSA tomorrow and ask specifically about a benefit recalculation. And yes, I'll look into the Medicare assistance programs too - with these medical conditions, every dollar counts. Thanks for taking the time to explain this!
Thank you all for the incredible resources! I've ordered the Mike Piper book and am going through the POMS documentation (which is indeed as unfriendly as warned). The Annual Statistical Supplement is also proving very helpful. I'm realizing this is more complex than I initially thought, especially with the family maximum calculations and the special considerations for my child. I'm particularly concerned about that SGA limit mentioned for DAC benefits - definitely need to model that scenario carefully. For those who might find this thread later, I'll try to share my spreadsheet once I've got it working properly with all these variables. Thanks again for all the help!
That's great to hear! One last tip: the Social Security Administration actually has a detailed document called "Benefit Calculation Examples For Workers Retiring In 2025" that walks through several detailed examples. It changes yearly with the new bend points, and includes step-by-step calculations. Search for that exact phrase on their site and it should come up. Would be perfect for validating your spreadsheet calculations.
As someone who's been down this rabbit hole before, I'd also recommend checking out the Social Security Administration's "Red Book" - specifically the 2025 version. It's their comprehensive guide to work incentives and contains detailed information about how earnings affect benefits, especially important for your special needs child scenario. One thing I learned the hard way: when building your spreadsheet, make sure to account for the fact that Social Security uses a very specific method for indexing earnings to current dollars using the Average Wage Index (AWI). The historical AWI factors are published annually and you'll need them for accurate AIME calculations. Also, if you're planning to include spousal benefit scenarios, don't forget about the Government Pension Offset (GPO) and Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) if either applies to your situation - these can significantly impact calculations but are often overlooked. The complexity is real, but once you get all the pieces together in a spreadsheet, it becomes incredibly powerful for scenario planning. Looking forward to seeing what you create!
Thanks for mentioning the Red Book and AWI factors! I hadn't considered the earnings indexing piece - that's probably why some of my preliminary calculations were off. I'm definitely going to need those historical AWI factors. Quick question: do you happen to know if the AWI indexing applies to all years of earnings, or just up to a certain age? And regarding GPO/WEP - thankfully neither my spouse nor I have government pensions, but I'll make sure to include those variables in the spreadsheet for completeness. This is turning into quite the project, but I'm excited to have a comprehensive tool when it's done!
@Luca Russo This is such valuable information! I m'just starting my research into creating these calculation tools myself. Could you clarify something about the AWI indexing - is this something that gets applied automatically when calculating AIME, or do I need to manually apply these factors to each year of earnings in my spreadsheet? Also, where exactly can I find those historical AWI factors? I ve'been digging through the SSA website but haven t'located the specific table yet. Thanks for sharing your experience with this - it s'encouraging to know others have successfully navigated this complexity!
Thank you all for the helpful information! I'm going to start gathering my medical records and look into disability attorneys in my area. I'm still nervous about the application process and potential wait time, but at least now I know that IF I get approved, I'll receive my full benefit amount without reduction. That's a huge relief. I'll also check out that Claimyr service when I need to call SSA - sounds much better than sitting on hold all day with my painful joints! I'll update this thread once I get started with the process in case it helps others with similar conditions.
Best of luck with your application, Tony! Your approach sounds smart - gathering all medical records upfront and getting legal help early can really make a difference. One thing I'd add from my experience helping my mom with her SSDI claim: keep copies of EVERYTHING you submit to SSA. They sometimes lose paperwork and having your own copies saved us from having to re-request records from doctors. Also, if your rheumatologist hasn't already, ask them to specifically document in your records how your arthritis affects your ability to sit, stand, walk, lift, and grip - SSA focuses heavily on these functional limitations. The waiting is the hardest part, but you're going into this well-informed which puts you ahead of many applicants. Wishing you a smooth process and quick approval!
Great advice about keeping copies of everything! I learned this the hard way when dealing with other government agencies. Also wanted to mention - if your rheumatologist hasn't done it already, you might want to ask about getting a Residual Functional Capacity (RFC) form completed. This is what SSA uses to determine what work activities you can still do despite your limitations. Having your doctor fill this out proactively (rather than waiting for SSA to request it) can really strengthen your case. It asks specific questions about how long you can sit/stand, how much you can lift, etc. - exactly what they need to see for arthritis cases.
I had a very similar experience when I applied for my benefits last year! Like you, I was married for over 10 years and provided all my ex-husband's information on the application, but my approval letter only mentioned my own retirement benefit. I was worried I was missing out on something too. After calling SSA (which took forever to get through), they confirmed that they had already run both calculations - my own benefit versus the divorced spouse benefit - and my own was higher by about $95 per month. The agent explained that this is actually pretty common, especially for people who worked steadily throughout their careers. What surprised me was learning that even though my ex earned significantly more in his peak years, the Social Security formula favors consistent earnings over high peaks. Plus, since I worked for 38 years and he had some periods of unemployment early in his career, my benefit calculation came out ahead. The fact that they didn't request your marriage/divorce certificate is actually a good sign - they typically only ask for those documents when they need to process a spousal benefit claim. Since you provided his SSN and they have access to his earnings record, they could easily compare the two amounts electronically. Still worth calling to confirm for your peace of mind, but it sounds like you're already getting the higher benefit amount!
This is such a reassuring response, thank you! It's really helpful to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation. The detail about consistent earnings vs. high peaks is something I hadn't considered - I worked pretty steadily for about 37 years while my ex had several job changes and some gaps early on. That probably explains why my benefit ended up higher despite his higher peak salary. I feel much more confident now that SSA did their job correctly, but I'll still call to double-check just to be 100% sure. Thanks for sharing your experience!
I'm going through a similar situation right now! Just applied for my benefits last month and I'm waiting for my approval letter. I was married to my ex for 14 years and he definitely earned more than me throughout our careers, so I'm curious to see if I'll get a similar result where my own benefit ends up being higher. Reading through all these responses has been really educational - I had no idea about the progressive formula or how consistent work history could sometimes beat out higher peak earnings. I worked pretty steadily for 35 years while my ex had some career changes and gaps, so maybe I'll be in a similar boat. Thanks for posting this question! It's helping me understand what to expect when I get my own letter. Hope everything works out smoothly when you call to verify!
Angel Campbell
One more important point - if your sister has any dependent children under 18 (or adult disabled children whose disability began before age 22), they may also qualify for benefits on her record once she's approved for SSDI. This doesn't apply to most 61-year-olds, but worth mentioning in case it's relevant to her situation.
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Marilyn Dixon
•She doesn't have any dependents in that category, but that's good information for others reading this thread. I'm learning so much about how this all works!
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Yara Sayegh
As someone who works with disability claims, I want to emphasize that your sister should also be prepared for the appeals process if needed. Initial SSDI applications are denied about 65% of the time, even for legitimate claims. If she gets denied initially, don't give up! The reconsideration and hearing levels have much higher approval rates. Keep all her medical records organized and make sure her doctors are documenting how her rheumatoid arthritis specifically prevents her from performing her nursing duties. The key is showing she cannot do her past work AND cannot adjust to other work given her age, education, and limitations. With 35+ years of work history and a solid medical condition like severe RA, she has a strong case - just be patient with the process.
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Brooklyn Knight
•This is really valuable advice about the appeals process - I had no idea the denial rate was so high initially! I'll make sure my sister knows not to get discouraged if she gets denied at first. She's been keeping detailed records from her rheumatologist and orthopedist, so hopefully that helps. The part about showing she can't do her past nursing work is especially helpful since RA really affects her ability to lift patients and be on her feet for long shifts. Thank you for the encouragement about her having a strong case!
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