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I'm new to this community but dealing with a similar situation. Just wanted to add that if you do decide to use Ticket to Work, make sure you understand that while it provides great protections, you need to be making "timely progress" toward your employment goals to keep those protections. The Employment Network will work with you to set reasonable milestones, but it's not automatic - you have to actively participate. Also, I've found that having a relationship with a disability employment specialist has been invaluable. They understand both the medical and vocational aspects of returning to work with a disability. Many state vocational rehabilitation agencies offer these services for free. Your story really resonates with me - the fear of losing benefits while trying to improve your situation is so real, but hearing everyone's experiences here gives me hope that it's possible to work and maintain some safety net!
Thank you for sharing that insight about Ticket to Work and the "timely progress" requirement! I didn't know that the protections weren't automatic and that you need to actively participate with milestones. That's really important to understand upfront. I'm also intrigued by your mention of disability employment specialists through state vocational rehabilitation agencies - I had no idea those services were available for free. Do you know if they can help even before you start working, like with planning and understanding all these rules? I'm feeling more confident about taking this step, but having professional guidance would be amazing. It's so reassuring to hear from people like you who are going through the same process!
I'm a newcomer here but have been researching this exact topic for months as I consider returning to work. What really helped me understand the Medicare piece was learning that there are actually TWO different "disability determinations" - one for SSDI cash benefits and one for Medicare eligibility. Even when your cash benefits stop due to work earnings, SSA still considers you disabled for Medicare purposes during that 93+ month extended period. This means you don't have to go through a new disability determination to keep Medicare - it automatically continues as long as you were entitled to SSDI for at least 24 months before starting work. I found this buried in the SSA POMS (Program Operations Manual System) online when I was doing research. It's reassuring to know that Medicare protection is more robust than the cash benefits when it comes to work attempts!
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - if you do decide to take this job and have your survivors benefits suspended, make sure you keep very detailed records of your earnings throughout each year. I learned this the hard way! SSA estimates your annual earnings at the beginning of each year to determine benefit withholding, but they reconcile this against your actual W-2 at the end of the year. If there's a discrepancy, it can create either an overpayment (if you earned less than projected) or underpayment (if you earned more) situation that takes months to sort out. Also, don't forget that the earnings limit applies to gross wages, not take-home pay. So factor in your full salary including any bonuses, overtime, or commissions when doing your calculations. Sounds like you're making a smart decision though - temporarily losing survivors benefits to build your career and potentially increase your own retirement benefit is exactly the kind of strategic thinking that pays off long-term!
That's excellent advice about keeping detailed records! I hadn't thought about the potential complications with reconciling estimated vs actual earnings. Since this new position would have some performance bonuses that could vary, I'll definitely need to track everything carefully throughout the year. Your point about gross wages is important too - I was thinking about my take-home pay but you're right that the calculation is based on the full amount before taxes and deductions. It's really helpful to hear from someone who learned these details "the hard way" so I can avoid those same pitfalls. I'm already feeling much more prepared to handle the administrative side of this decision. Thanks for sharing your experience!
I'm in a very similar situation - 64 and on survivors benefits with a potential job offer that would put me over the earnings limit. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! One question I haven't seen addressed: if my benefits get completely suspended for exceeding the limit, will I still get the annual COLA (cost of living adjustment) increases applied to my benefit amount? Or do those only apply while you're actively receiving payments? I'm wondering if when my benefits eventually resume (either when I reduce hours or reach FRA), will my benefit amount reflect all the COLA increases that happened during the suspension period? Also wanted to add my thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's so valuable to hear real examples rather than trying to decipher the official SSA publications!
Great question about COLAs! Yes, you'll still receive all the cost-of-living adjustments even while your benefits are suspended due to the earnings test. SSA applies COLA increases to your benefit amount on record, not just to benefits being paid out. So when your benefits resume (whether you reduce earnings or reach FRA), your monthly amount will reflect all the COLA increases that occurred during the suspension period. You won't lose out on those adjustments! This is another reason why the earnings test suspension isn't as scary as it might seem initially - your benefit keeps growing with inflation even when payments are temporarily stopped. The system really is designed to protect your long-term interests. Hope this helps with your decision! Sounds like you're in a very similar boat to the original poster.
OMG ppl are so lucky with military pensions! My dad worked for the county for 35 years and gets a good pension but when he tried to get any SS from my moms record they said nope because of that GPO thing. makes no sense why military is treated different from other govt workers!
The difference is that military service members have been paying into Social Security since 1957, while many state and local government employees (like your father) were covered by pension systems that operated outside of Social Security and didn't contribute to it. The GPO was designed to treat government workers who didn't pay into Social Security similarly to dual-earner couples where both spouses paid into the system.
As someone new to understanding Social Security benefits, this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a somewhat similar situation - my spouse worked for a state agency that didn't pay into Social Security for most of their career, but I've been in the private sector my whole working life. Reading about how military pensions are treated differently than other government pensions really clarifies why we're facing the GPO reduction while military families like yours won't. It sounds like you and your husband are in a much better position than I initially thought when I saw your question. The key takeaway I'm getting is that the type of government service really matters - if Social Security taxes were paid during that service, then GPO doesn't apply. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences and knowledge!
I'm still waiting for mine too! It's been really stressful not knowing the exact amount, especially since we're trying to finalize our holiday spending budget. My sister got hers two weeks ago and we usually receive all our SSA mail around the same time. Reading all these responses really puts my mind at ease though - sounds like this is completely normal and they really do send them out over several weeks. I'll stop checking the mailbox obsessively every day and just wait patiently until mid-December like others suggested. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences!
I'm in the exact same situation! Still waiting for my COLA letter and it's making me anxious about our budget planning too. My husband got his over a week ago, but mine is nowhere to be found. This thread has been so helpful though - I had no idea they stagger the mailings over such a long period. I'm going to try that 2.5% calculation method that Mason mentioned and stop worrying about it until mid-December. It's such a relief to know this is totally normal and not something to panic about!
I'm also still waiting for my COLA letter and was getting really worried until I found this thread! My neighbor got hers almost two weeks ago and we're both retirement age with similar circumstances, so I couldn't understand the delay. It's such a relief to hear from everyone that SSA really does send these out in waves over several weeks. The 2.5% calculation tip is super helpful - I just did the math and it looks like my monthly benefit should go up by about $47. I'll stop stressing about it and wait until December to check my MySocialSecurity account online. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences, especially the former SSA employee who explained the process!
I'm so glad I found this discussion! I've been in the same exact situation - still waiting for my COLA letter while my spouse got theirs over a week ago. I was starting to think there was an issue with my account or that somehow I got missed in their system. Reading everyone's experiences here has been incredibly reassuring. The former SSA employee's explanation about the 3-4 week batching process makes so much sense, and I love the 2.5% calculation tip to get a rough estimate while we wait. I'm definitely going to stop checking the mailbox multiple times a day and just be patient until mid-December. Thanks to everyone for sharing - this community is so helpful for navigating all these SSA processes!
Dmitry Petrov
As someone who just went through this exact situation 6 months ago, I can confirm what everyone else is saying - your high income years will NOT reduce your Social Security benefits! I had similar anxiety about filing after having my best earning years right before retirement. What I learned is that Social Security uses a completely different calculation than Medicare IRMAA. Your SS benefit is based on your highest 35 years of indexed earnings, so those $185K years will likely INCREASE your monthly payment by replacing lower-earning years from earlier in your career. The confusion is totally understandable since both programs look at your income, but they use it very differently. IRMAA is just a surcharge on your Medicare premiums based on recent tax returns, while your SS benefit calculation looks at your entire work history. Since you're filing at your FRA and not working anymore, you're in the best possible position - no earnings test, no reduction in benefits, and those high-income years working in your favor. Go ahead and file with confidence!
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Aria Washington
•Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who just went through the same situation. I was getting so stressed about potentially losing benefits after working so hard those last two years. The distinction between IRMAA and the actual SS calculation makes perfect sense now - I can't believe I was considering delaying my filing over this confusion. I'm definitely going to submit my application next week!
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KhalilStar
I completely understand your confusion - this is one of the most common misconceptions about Social Security! The key thing to remember is that your pre-retirement income actually HELPS your Social Security benefit calculation, not hurts it. Social Security uses your highest 35 years of earnings (adjusted for inflation) to calculate your benefit. Those $185,000 years will likely replace some of your lower-earning years from earlier in your career, potentially giving you a higher monthly payment than you would have received otherwise. The IRMAA surcharges you mentioned are completely separate - they only affect your Medicare Part B and Part D premiums, not your actual Social Security benefit amount. It's an unfortunate naming similarity that causes a lot of confusion. Since you're filing at your Full Retirement Age (66) and you've stopped working, there's absolutely no reason to delay. You won't face any earnings test restrictions, and your benefit amount is locked in based on your work history. Those high-income consulting years were actually a gift to your future Social Security payments! I'd recommend going ahead and filing - you've earned those benefits and there's no penalty for having done well financially in your final working years.
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QuantumQuasar
•This is such a helpful breakdown! I'm actually in a similar boat - planning to retire next year after some really good earning years, and I was worried about the same thing. It's so confusing how Social Security and Medicare use income information differently. Your explanation about the highest 35 years calculation really clarifies things. I had no idea that recent high earnings could actually boost my future SS payments by replacing older, lower-earning years. Thanks for taking the time to explain the distinction between IRMAA and the actual benefit calculation - this thread has been incredibly educational for someone new to navigating all these retirement decisions!
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