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Where can I find an exact chart for Full Retirement Age (FRA) by birth year and month?

I'm really confused about this FRA (Full Retirement Age) thing. I keep seeing people talk about retiring at "65 and 8 months" or "66 and 2 months" but I can't figure out exactly when MY full retirement age is. I was born in 1960 and my wife was born in 1958. Is there like an official chart somewhere that breaks it down by your exact birth year and month? The SSA website is so confusing to navigate. Thanks for any help!

This is such valuable information everyone! As someone who's been dreading navigating all this retirement stuff, this thread has been a lifesaver. I had no idea about the spousal benefit rules or how the timing works between spouses. My situation is probably pretty common - I'm the higher earner and my spouse worked part-time. It sounds like we need to think strategically about when each of us claims rather than just both filing at our FRAs. Are there any good resources for running different claiming scenarios to see what makes the most financial sense for couples in our situation?

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Great question! There are several tools that can help you model different claiming scenarios: 1. The SSA's own retirement estimator at ssa.gov lets you see benefits at different claiming ages 2. AARP has a Social Security Benefits Calculator that's pretty user-friendly for couples 3. Some financial advisors use more sophisticated software like Social Security Analyzer or Maximize My Social Security The key variables to consider are: - Life expectancy estimates for both spouses - Cash flow needs (do you need income immediately?) - Survivor benefits (the higher earner's decision affects the survivor benefit) - Tax implications of the timing Since you're the higher earner, delaying until 70 could maximize both your benefit and the potential survivor benefit for your spouse. But if you need the income or have health concerns, claiming earlier might make sense. I'd recommend running a few scenarios - it's pretty eye-opening to see how much the timing can affect your lifetime benefits!

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I was hoping for! I had no idea there were so many different calculators available. The point about survivor benefits is something I hadn't even considered - that's a really important factor since statistically I'm likely to pass away before my spouse. I'm definitely going to check out that AARP calculator first since you mentioned it's user-friendly. The idea of potentially gaining significant lifetime benefits just by strategically timing when we each file is pretty amazing. It sounds like this is one of those decisions where spending some time upfront to understand the options could literally be worth tens of thousands of dollars over our lifetimes. Thanks for breaking down those key variables too - the life expectancy and cash flow considerations make a lot of sense. We're fortunate that we don't desperately need the income right at 62, so it sounds like we have some flexibility to optimize our approach.

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This has been such an informative thread! I'm in a similar boat - born in 1961 so my FRA is 67, and my husband was born in 1959 (FRA 66 and 10 months). What's really helpful is seeing how the math works out for the reductions and increases. One thing I wanted to add that I learned from my financial planner: if you're still working when you reach FRA, make sure you understand the earnings test. Before your FRA, if you earn too much, they temporarily reduce your benefits. But once you hit your FRA, you can earn unlimited income without any benefit reduction, AND they recalculate to give you credit for any benefits that were withheld due to earnings. Also, don't forget that your highest 35 years of earnings are used to calculate your benefit. If you're still working and earning more than you did in earlier years, those higher earnings can actually increase your future benefit amount even after you've already started collecting! The system is definitely complex, but threads like this really help break it down into understandable pieces. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences!

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You can actually see your earnings history and get a good sense of your highest 35 years by creating a my Social Security account at ssa.gov! Once you log in, you can view your complete earnings record going back to when you started working. It shows your earnings for each year (up to the Social Security wage base for that year), so you can identify your 35 highest-earning years. The account also gives you benefit estimates based on your current earnings record, and you can even run "what if" scenarios to see how working additional years at different salary levels would affect your projected benefits. It's really eye-opening to see how those early lower-earning years get replaced by higher current earnings in the calculation. One thing to keep in mind - if you haven't worked a full 35 years, Social Security uses zeros for the missing years, so continuing to work definitely helps in that case. Even if you have worked 35+ years, replacing those lower-earning years from decades ago with today's higher salary can make a meaningful difference in your monthly benefit amount.

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Yes, you can actually see your earnings history! Create an account at ssa.gov/myaccount and you'll have access to your Social Security Statement. It shows your complete earnings record year by year (the amounts that were subject to Social Security tax). From there, you can identify your current highest 35 years and see if continuing to work would replace any lower-earning years. The statement also shows your projected benefits at different claiming ages based on your current earnings record. What's really helpful is that it updates annually, so you can track how additional years of work impact your benefit calculation. I discovered that working just two more years would replace some low-earning years from the early 1990s and boost my monthly benefit by about $85. That's over $1,000 per year for the rest of my life! The online account also lets you get benefit estimates if you stop working at different ages, which can help with retirement planning decisions.

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Can't find how to print SS benefit statement showing Medicare deductions on SSA.gov

I'm trying to provide proof of income for a housing application, and they specifically need to see my Social Security payment AFTER the Medicare Part B premium is deducted. I've been all over my MySocialSecurity account and can't find any way to print a statement that shows both the gross amount and Medicare deduction. The only thing I can find is the benefit verification letter which just shows the gross amount before deductions. Has anyone successfully printed something like this from the website? Am I just missing something obvious? My apartment application is due next week and I'm getting anxious about this!

I'm a new member here and just wanted to say how helpful this thread has been! I'm dealing with a similar situation for my disability application - they want proof of my actual net Social Security payment after Medicare deductions. Reading through all these responses, it sounds like the key is knowing the exact terminology to use when calling SSA. I'm going to try calling and asking for either a "Payment History Statement with Medicare deductions" or a "Benefit Rate and Medicare Premium Notice" as suggested above. If that doesn't work, I'll fall back to combining my benefit verification letter with bank statements. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it's really reassuring to know I'm not the only one struggling with this!

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As someone new to this community, I'm amazed by how helpful and detailed everyone's responses have been! I'm actually bookmarking this thread because I suspect I'll need this same type of documentation in the future. One thing I wanted to add that might help Laura and others - if you do end up having to visit a Social Security office in person, you can actually schedule an appointment online through the SSA website rather than just showing up and waiting 2+ hours like Camila had to do. Go to ssa.gov/agency/contact/officePrimarylocator.html to find your local office and schedule ahead of time. It might take a few weeks to get an appointment, but it's way better than those brutal walk-in wait times. Also, for anyone dealing with this in the future, I've heard that some local Area Agencies on Aging have staff who can help navigate SSA phone calls and paperwork. They might be able to assist with getting the right documents or even make three-way calls with SSA on your behalf. Just another resource to consider if the direct approach doesn't work out. Hope you get your housing application sorted out, Laura!

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Welcome to the community, Geoff! That's such valuable information about scheduling appointments online - I had no idea that was an option! That would definitely be much better than showing up and waiting for hours like Camila experienced. The Area Agencies on Aging tip is also brilliant - I never would have thought to reach out to them for help with SSA calls. That could be a game-changer for people who have trouble getting through on the phone or navigating the system. Thanks for adding these practical alternatives to our growing list of solutions! This thread is becoming a really comprehensive resource for anyone facing this Medicare deduction documentation issue.

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Is SSDI calculated at age 62 or FRA (67)? Denied for back surgery, now approaching early retirement

I'm really confused about how SSDI benefits are calculated. Are they based on early retirement age (62) or full retirement age (67)? My situation is complicated - I applied for SSDI last year in July due to severe back problems, had surgery in September, but got denied anyway. I'm still dealing with significant back issues and have started the appeal process. The timing is tricky because I turn 62 in April and I'm not sure if I should just take early retirement instead of continuing the SSDI fight. Would taking early retirement hurt my SSDI case? And if I eventually get approved for SSDI, would my benefit amount be the same as what I'd get at full retirement age (67)? Any advice from people who've navigated this would be really helpful.

A couple timing considerations for you: 1. There's a 5-month waiting period for SSDI benefits after your established onset date of disability. So backpay doesn't start immediately from when you became disabled. 2. If you take early retirement while appealing, and then win your SSDI case, they'll pay you the difference retroactively, but this can create some complicated tax situations. 3. The SSDI appeal process can take 1-2 years to reach the hearing level, so having some income during that time is important to consider.

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The 5-month waiting period is frustrating. My back problems started over a year ago but got much worse before my surgery. I'm already struggling financially so waiting potentially another year or more for the appeal is scary. The tax situation sounds complicated too - I hadn't thought about that aspect.

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Carmen, I went through almost the exact same situation last year - back surgery, SSDI denial, and turning 62 while appealing. Here's what I wish someone had told me: 1. **Financial bridge**: Taking early retirement at 62 while appealing SSDI can be a smart financial move. You'll have income while waiting for your appeal decision, which can take 12-18 months. 2. **No harm to your case**: Filing for early retirement won't hurt your SSDI appeal. SSA treats them as separate determinations, and many people do both simultaneously. 3. **The math works in your favor**: If you win SSDI later, you'll get bumped up to the full retirement amount PLUS backpay for the difference. If you lose the appeal, at least you had income during the waiting period. 4. **Construction background helps**: Given your 30+ years in construction and limited education, you actually have a good shot at approval under the medical-vocational guidelines, especially at your age. Back problems + inability to do past heavy work + limited transferable skills = strong case. My advice: File for early retirement when you turn 62 next month to get income flowing, but absolutely continue your SSDI appeal. Get all your post-surgery medical records to your attorney (if you don't have one, get one - they're worth it). The financial difference between early retirement and SSDI is too significant to give up on. Hang in there - the system is frustrating but it does work eventually for legitimate cases like yours.

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Can I set up a tiny house for my adult disabled child on my property while preserving her SS benefits?

My daughter with disabilities is turning 18 next month and desperately wants some independence. She can't live completely on her own due to her condition, but I'm thinking about placing a small trailer or tiny house on our property so she can have her own space while I'm still nearby as her caregiver. I'm confused about how this affects her benefits when she transitions from child disability to adult DAC (Disabled Adult Child) benefits. Would charging her a flat monthly rent ($500 including utilities) affect her SSI/SSDI? Should we use the same mailing address or request separate designations (Unit A/B)? I want to support her independence but don't want to accidentally reduce her benefits. Has anyone navigated similar living arrangements with SSA?

This is such a thoughtful way to support your daughter's independence! I'm in a similar situation with my 19-year-old son who has autism. We ended up converting our detached garage into a small apartment for him. Here's what I learned from our experience: 1. Start with your local zoning office BEFORE SSA - some areas require permits for ADUs or have restrictions 2. For the SSA piece, we found that having a completely separate entrance was key to establishing it as a separate household 3. We set up automatic bank transfers for rent ($450/month in our case) and keep screenshots of every transaction 4. The Unit A/B mailing address designation was surprisingly easy - just had to fill out a form at the post office One thing that caught me off guard was that SSA asked very specific questions about whether we share meals together during his review. We had to document that he has his own kitchen facilities and buys his own groceries (he gets SNAP benefits separately now). The independence has been amazing for him, and his DAC benefits weren't affected at all. Just make sure to document everything from day one - it's much easier than trying to recreate records later if SSA has questions!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm really impressed by how supportive and knowledgeable everyone has been in this thread! I'm in a very similar situation with my 19-year-old daughter who has cerebral palsy, and reading through all these responses has been incredibly educational. A few things that particularly stood out to me: - The importance of establishing separate households from day one with proper documentation - How DAC vs SSI benefits are treated differently regarding living arrangements - The need to check local zoning laws before setting up any ADU or trailer One question I haven't seen addressed - has anyone dealt with how this affects other family members' taxes? I'm wondering if charging my daughter rent would need to be reported as rental income, and whether there are any implications for claiming her as a dependent. Also, for those who mentioned WIPA counselors and Independent Living Centers, how did you initially find and connect with these resources? I'd love to get professional guidance before making any changes, but I'm not sure where to start looking in my area. Thank you all for sharing such detailed, practical experiences. It's clear that with proper planning and documentation, this can be a wonderful way to support independence while protecting benefits!

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Welcome to the community! You've raised some really important questions that I don't think have been fully addressed yet. Regarding the tax implications - yes, if you charge your daughter rent, that would typically need to be reported as rental income on your tax return. However, you can also deduct legitimate rental expenses like a portion of utilities, maintenance, insurance, etc. The dependency question is complex - generally if she's paying fair market rent and truly independent, you might not be able to claim her as a dependent, but this varies based on the total support test and other factors. Definitely worth consulting a tax professional who understands disability situations. For finding WIPA counselors, you can search the national directory at choosework.ssa.gov - just look for the "Find Help" section. For Independent Living Centers, try the National Council on Independent Living website (ncil.org) which has a center locator. Both of these resources provide free consultations and really understand the intersection of housing and benefits. The cerebral palsy community has some great advocacy organizations too that might have specific resources for housing transitions. It sounds like you're being really thoughtful about planning this out properly!

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Can I get SSDI plus divorced spousal benefits before my ex-husband files for Social Security?

Hey everyone, I've been battling with my finances for years now and really need some clarity on Social Security rules. I'm turning 61 next month and have been collecting SSDI since 2012 after my lupus made it impossible to continue working. My ex and I were married for 23 years before we split in 2017. He's turning 62 in December and knowing him, he'll probably work until he drops dead at his desk (he's always been a workaholic). I'm really struggling to make ends meet on just my SSDI payment of $1,476/month. My question is: can I qualify for any kind of divorced spousal benefit or "top-up" while I'm on SSDI? And the big question - do I have to wait until he actually files for his own retirement benefits before I can get anything? Also, if he decides to take early retirement before his full retirement age, would any benefit I might get be reduced based on his early filing or would it be based on his FRA amount? I've looked through the SSA website but I'm getting confused with all the different rules. Any help would be so appreciated!

One more tip from my experience - print out ALL your tax returns from the marriage if you have them. They asked me for income verification because they wanted to check if I had any government pensions that would trigger the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) or Government Pension Offset (GPO). Those can reduce benefits if you worked for state/local government that didn't pay into Social Security.

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I worked in the private sector my whole career, so I should be okay on that front. But that's a good point - I'll bring my recent tax returns just in case they need to verify anything.

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@Natasha Volkova - One thing I'd add that might help you prepare for your SSA appointment: try to estimate what your ex's earnings were during your highest earning years of marriage. Even a rough estimate can help you gauge whether pursuing this is worth it. If he was making significantly more than what would generate your current $1,476 SSDI payment, then the divorced spouse benefit could provide a meaningful boost. But if his earnings were similar to yours, the additional benefit might be minimal. Also, when you do apply, ask specifically about retroactive benefits. Depending on when you became eligible (remember, you had to be divorced for 2+ years AND your ex had to be 62+), you might be entitled to some back pay from when you first became eligible to when you actually file. The whole process took about 6 weeks for my case once I submitted all the paperwork, so don't expect immediate results. But given your financial situation, it's definitely worth pursuing!

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