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This is such a common issue that catches people off guard! I went through something similar with my mom's state pension. Here's what I learned from our experience: 1. **Call the SSA field office directly** - don't use the 800 number if you can help it. They're much more knowledgeable about WEP cases. 2. **Bring ALL documentation** - pension statements showing the original amount and each COLA increase with dates. This makes the process much smoother. 3. **Ask about the "de minimis" rule** - sometimes very small pension increases don't actually change your WEP reduction if you're already at the maximum reduction amount. 4. **Request a benefit verification letter** after they update everything so you have proof of the correct benefit amount going forward. The good news is that most SSA offices are understanding when it's clearly an honest mistake and you're being proactive about fixing it. They deal with WEP confusion all the time. Don't panic - just get it sorted out as soon as you can!

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This is really helpful advice! I especially appreciate the tip about the "de minimis" rule - I had no idea that small increases might not actually affect the WEP calculation. That gives me some hope that maybe the impact won't be as bad as I'm fearing. I'm definitely going to call the local field office first thing Monday morning with all our documentation ready. Thank you for sharing your experience!

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I'm a newcomer here but dealing with a similar WEP situation with my wife's teacher pension. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly eye-opening - I had no idea we were supposed to report COLA increases either! For those asking about the Claimyr service mentioned earlier, I actually used them last month for a different SSA issue and they are legitimate. It's basically a callback service that gets you connected faster than waiting on hold. You pay a small fee but honestly it was worth it to avoid the typical nightmare of trying to reach SSA. @Ava Thompson - definitely don't panic about the potential overpayment. From what I've learned, SSA is usually reasonable about honest mistakes, especially when you're being proactive about fixing it. The key is getting ahead of it rather than waiting for them to discover it during a routine review. One thing I'd add to all the great advice here: make sure to ask SSA for written confirmation of whatever they tell you about reporting requirements going forward. That way you have documentation if there's any confusion later about what you were told to do.

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If you have 40+ quarters of Social Security coverage as you mentioned, make sure that's properly documented in your earnings record. Sometimes quarters get missed in the system. I've seen cases where correcting the earnings record resulted in a reduction of the WEP penalty even under the old rules. You can check your lifetime earnings record in your mySocialSecurity account. If you see any years missing or with incorrect amounts, gather documentation (W-2s, tax returns) and submit a correction request. This might help regardless of how the new law is implemented.

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That's good advice. I just checked my record and there actually are two years in the 1990s that show zero earnings when I definitely worked those summers. I'll need to dig through my old paperwork and see if I can find proof. Thank you!

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I'm in a similar situation as a retired postal worker who also had a second career teaching. The WEP reduction hit me hard too - about $380 per month less than what I was expecting based on my SS statement. From what I've been able to piece together from various sources, the new law does include current WEP beneficiaries, but we're looking at a gradual phase-in starting in 2026. The key thing is that they're changing from the current "substantial earnings" threshold system to a more proportional calculation that should be fairer to people like us who paid into both systems. One thing that might help while we wait - if you haven't already, request a detailed breakdown of how your WEP reduction was calculated. Sometimes there are errors in how they counted your "substantial earnings years" that can be corrected. I found one error in mine that reduced my penalty by about $50/month. The waiting is frustrating, but at least it sounds like there's light at the end of the tunnel for those of us already dealing with WEP reductions.

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As someone new to this community, I wanted to thank everyone for this incredibly informative discussion! I'm approaching 62 and have been trying to understand all the nuances of Social Security planning. Reading through these real-world experiences has been so much more helpful than wading through the official SSA publications. The point about Medicare premiums potentially masking benefit increases is something I never would have thought of. And learning about the AERO process gives me confidence that continuing to work past FRA won't just avoid penalties but could actually provide modest increases. It's reassuring to see a community where people share their actual experiences - both the successes (like the $90/month increase) and the reality checks (like the $11/month bump). This kind of practical knowledge is invaluable for planning decisions. Thanks to everyone who contributed their insights!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also pretty new here and found this thread incredibly eye-opening. Like you, I'm still a few years away from these decisions but it's so valuable to hear from people who've actually lived through the process. The practical details - like checking your mySocialSecurity account in October for recalculations, or how Medicare premium changes can mask benefit increases - are the kind of real-world insights you just don't get from official sources. It's also refreshing to see honest discussions about both the potential benefits AND the limitations (those modest $11-27/month increases really put things in perspective!). Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this community seems like a great resource for navigating these complex decisions!

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As a newcomer to this community, I'm amazed by how helpful this discussion has been! I'm 64 and was planning to wait until my FRA to claim benefits, but I've been worried that continuing to work might somehow complicate things. Reading everyone's real experiences has been incredibly reassuring - especially learning that the AERO process is completely automatic and that there's truly no earnings penalty after FRA. The practical tips about checking mySocialSecurity accounts in October and being aware of how Medicare premium changes might mask small benefit increases are exactly the kind of details I needed to know. It's also helpful to have realistic expectations about the size of potential increases. Even if it's only $25-50/month, every bit helps with today's cost of living. Thank you all for sharing your experiences so openly - this community is such a valuable resource for navigating these important financial decisions!

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Welcome to the community! I'm also new here and just wanted to echo your sentiments - this thread has been incredibly educational. I'm 63 and in a similar situation, planning to claim at FRA but wondering about the implications of continued work. What really struck me was learning about the difference between avoiding the earnings penalty (which I knew about) versus actually getting potential benefit increases through AERO (which I had no clue about!). The transparency everyone has shown about their actual dollar amounts - whether it's a $90 boost or just $11 - gives such a realistic picture of what to expect. I'm definitely bookmarking this discussion and will be checking my mySocialSecurity account religiously come October! Thanks to everyone for creating such a welcoming and informative environment for those of us still figuring all this out.

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I'm new to this community and found this thread incredibly helpful! My 20-year-old son has autism and has been on SSI since turning 18. I just started receiving SSDI myself and got a similar letter about potential DAC benefits. Reading through everyone's experiences has given me so much valuable information - especially about planning for the income gap during transition and the possibility of becoming his payee instead of dealing with the restrictive organization we currently work with. A few questions based on what I've learned here: 1. For those who became their child's payee, how much medical documentation did you need to provide? My son can handle basic budgeting and banking with some guidance, but I want to make sure I have enough evidence of his capabilities. 2. Has anyone dealt with vocational rehabilitation services during the DAC transition? My son is in a job training program and I'm worried about how the benefit change might affect his services. 3. The ABLE account information is fantastic - I'm definitely setting one up! Do most banks offer these accounts, or do you need to go through specific state programs? Thank you all for being so open about your experiences. This process felt overwhelming before, but now I feel like I have a roadmap to follow. The support and practical advice in this community is amazing!

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Welcome to the community, Mason! I'm also new here but have been following this incredibly helpful discussion. Based on what I've learned from everyone's experiences: 1. For the payee documentation, it sounds like a letter from his doctor outlining his specific capabilities and areas where he needs support is key. Several people mentioned including evidence of his ability to handle basic financial tasks - like using banking apps, budgeting for groceries, or managing small purchases independently. 2. Great question about vocational rehabilitation! I hadn't thought about that aspect but it's definitely worth checking with his job training program coordinator about how the income change might affect services. From what I understand, DAC benefits might actually be viewed more favorably than SSI for employment programs since there's less concern about resource limits. 3. For ABLE accounts, most states have their own programs but you can actually use any state's ABLE program even if you don't live there. I've been researching and it looks like some states have better fee structures or investment options than others, so it's worth comparing. The ABLE National Resource Center website has a good comparison tool. Thank you for asking these questions - they're helping me think through aspects of this process I hadn't considered yet! This community has been such a lifeline for navigating all this complexity.

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I'm also navigating this transition with my 19-year-old daughter who has Down syndrome and has been on SSI since turning 18. I recently qualified for SSDI myself and received the DAC letter from SSA. This thread has been absolutely invaluable - thank you all for sharing such detailed experiences! A few things I wanted to add based on our consultation with a disability attorney: 1. **Timing strategy**: Our attorney recommended applying for DAC benefits about 2-3 months before we expect my daughter's SSI review date. This can help minimize the gap between benefits since SSA sometimes coordinates the timing better when they have advance notice. 2. **Medical evidence tip**: She emphasized that for the "disability before age 22" requirement, early intervention records are gold. Even if there wasn't a formal autism/intellectual disability diagnosis, records from speech therapy, occupational therapy, or developmental pediatrician visits can establish the timeline. 3. **Payee transition**: We learned that you can actually request a "trial period" where you become the payee for 6 months to demonstrate capability before it becomes permanent. This might be helpful for families who want to test the arrangement. 4. **ABLE account timing**: Our attorney suggested opening the ABLE account before applying for DAC benefits because it shows financial planning capability, which can support the argument for more independence or a family payee. The representative payee situation has been our biggest frustration too - the current organization requires approval for every purchase over $50 and makes my daughter feel like she has no autonomy. Reading about everyone's success with becoming family payees gives me so much hope! One question: has anyone dealt with how DAC benefits affect college financial aid eligibility? My daughter is interested in a certificate program and I'm wondering how this income change might impact her options.

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Welcome to the community, Ava! The timing strategy your attorney suggested is really smart - applying 2-3 months before the SSI review date to minimize gaps makes so much sense. I wish I had known that tip earlier! Your point about early intervention records is encouraging too, since many of us are worried about proving the "before age 22" requirement even when formal diagnoses came later. The "trial period" option for becoming a payee is something I hadn't heard mentioned before - that sounds like a great way to demonstrate capability without fully committing right away. And your attorney's advice about opening the ABLE account before applying to show financial planning capability is brilliant! Regarding your college financial aid question, I don't have direct experience with that yet, but I wonder if the higher DAC income might actually help in some ways since it's more predictable than SSI? With SSI, any work income gets deducted, but DAC benefits continue regardless of work earnings (up to certain limits), which might make financial planning for education easier. You might want to check with the financial aid office at the certificate program - they probably have experience working with students receiving disability benefits. Your frustration with the $50 approval limit resonates so much - it's infantilizing for capable young adults. Thanks for sharing all these strategic tips from your attorney consultation. Having professional guidance clearly makes a big difference in navigating this process effectively!

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I'm dealing with something similar - trying to get information about disability benefits after a work injury, and the phone system has been absolutely useless for over a month! Reading through everyone's suggestions here has been more helpful than anything I've found on the SSA website. I'm going to try the 8:00 AM sharp calling strategy tomorrow, and if that doesn't work, I'll definitely look into the Area Agency on Aging option - I had no idea that resource existed. The fact that they have special relationships with SSA and can advocate for people sounds like exactly what we need when the normal channels are completely broken. For anyone else still struggling with this, it sounds like the key successful strategies from this thread are: 1. Call at exactly 8:00 AM (not 8:01!) 2. Press 0 repeatedly during the automated menu 3. Try Tuesday/Wednesday instead of Monday/Friday 4. Contact your Area Agency on Aging for help 5. Consider mailing forms when possible (like the SS-5 for name changes) 6. Contact your congressional representative as a last resort Thanks to everyone who shared what actually worked - it's so frustrating that we need workarounds just to access basic government services, but at least we're helping each other figure it out!

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This is such a helpful summary! I'm new to dealing with SSA but have been dreading it after hearing horror stories from friends. Seeing all these practical strategies laid out gives me hope that there are actually ways to get through their broken system. The timing seems really crucial based on everyone's experiences - multiple people succeeded with the exact 8:00 AM approach. I'm also impressed by how many alternative resources people have shared that I never knew existed, like the Area Agency on Aging and even congressional offices helping with SSA issues. It's ridiculous that we need these workarounds just to access services we've paid into our whole working lives, but I'm grateful this community is sharing what actually works instead of just complaining. Definitely bookmarking this thread for when I need to deal with SSA myself!

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I just wanted to add another option that worked for a friend of mine who was in a similar situation with SSA last year. She ended up using her local library's computer assistance program - many libraries have staff who help seniors navigate government websites and can sit with you while you try to create online accounts or submit forms. The librarian at her branch was familiar with the SSA website issues and knew some tricks for getting past the identity verification problems that seem to trip up a lot of people. They also helped her properly scan and upload documents, which can be tricky if you're not tech-savvy. Plus, libraries often have more stable internet connections than home wifi, which might help with those frustrating website crashes. It's worth calling your local library to ask if they offer this kind of digital assistance - many do, especially for government services. Even if they can't help directly with SSA, they might know about other local resources or senior centers that offer similar support. Also wanted to echo what others said about persistence paying off - don't give up! The system is definitely broken, but people ARE getting through eventually with these strategies. Good luck to everyone still fighting this battle!

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That's such a brilliant suggestion about using library computer assistance! I never would have thought of that, but it makes perfect sense - librarians are amazing at helping people navigate complicated systems, and having someone there who knows the common pitfalls could save so much frustration. The point about stable internet is really smart too. I've definitely had the SSA website crash on me mid-process, which is infuriating when you're already stressed about the whole situation. Having a reliable connection and tech support right there sounds like it could make all the difference. I'm going to call my local library tomorrow to see what they offer. Even if they can't help directly with SSA, they might know about other community resources I haven't discovered yet. This thread has opened my eyes to so many support options I didn't know existed - between the Area Agency on Aging, congressional offices, and now library assistance programs, there are actually quite a few advocates out there willing to help navigate government bureaucracy! Thanks for adding another practical solution to our growing toolkit for dealing with SSA's broken system!

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