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When to reduce work hours before filing for SS survivor benefits to avoid earnings limit issues?

I'm trying to plan ahead for survivor benefits (I'm eligible in about 3 years after my husband passed away last year). I understand there's an earnings limit for survivor benefits before reaching full retirement age, which is fine. I'm planning to work part-time when I start collecting, but I'm confused about the TIMING. Do I need to reduce my hours BEFORE filing for survivor benefits? If so, how long before filing should I go from full-time to part-time? I currently work 40+ hours weekly and contribute heavily to my 401k, which I'd like to continue as long as possible. But I don't want to mess up my benefits by having too much income right when I file. Does SSA look at my earnings for the whole calendar year or just after I start receiving benefits? Any insights from those who've navigated this would be SO helpful!

The Social Security Administration looks at your earnings for the entire calendar year in which you begin receiving benefits, but they apply the earnings limit only to the months after you start receiving benefits. So if you file for survivor benefits mid-year, they'll only count your earnings from that point forward when applying the annual earnings limit. For 2025, the earnings limit for beneficiaries under FRA is projected to be around $22,300 annually. So you could work full-time until you file, then reduce your hours afterward to stay under the monthly equivalent of that limit (about $1,860 per month for the remaining months of the year).

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Oh thank you so much for explaining! So to be clear - if I file in June 2025, they would only count my earnings from June-December against that $22,300 limit? That's a huge relief. I was worried they might look at my January-May earnings too and I'd be over the limit right from the start.

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When my mom got survivor benefits, she kept working full time and they took back a ton of money! She didn't know about the limit thing and had to pay back like half of what they gave her. Super frustrating. Definitely cut back your hours before you file!!

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That's not entirely accurate. While your mother's experience sounds frustrating, the SSA doesn't require you to cut back hours before filing. They only count earnings after you begin receiving benefits in that calendar year. However, it is important to understand that for every $2 earned above the annual limit, SSA withholds $1 in benefits. This might explain why your mother had to "pay back" some benefits - it was likely benefits withheld due to excess earnings.

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Maya Lewis

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I've been on survivor benefits for 2 years now and let me tell you - THE EARNINGS LIMIT IS A NIGHTMARE!!! I didn't understand it at first and got hit with a HUGE overpayment notice. My advice: call SSA directly and ask them to explain EXACTLY how it applies to YOUR specific situation. Good luck even getting through though - I spent DAYS trying to reach someone!!!

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Isaac Wright

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Lucy Taylor

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My sister just went thru this last year. She kept working full time until the month she applied for survivors, then went to 25 hrs a week after that. Worked out fine! SSA only counted her earnings after she filed.

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That's really helpful to hear a real example! Did your sister have any issues with the transition? Did SSA ask for proof of her reduced hours or anything like that?

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Connor Murphy

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One important detail many people overlook is that the earnings limit is significantly higher in the year you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA), and it only applies to earnings before the month you reach FRA. For 2025, if you reach your FRA during the year, the limit will likely be around $59,500 (compared to $22,300 for younger beneficiaries), and they only withhold $1 for every $3 earned above the limit. Also, only wages and self-employment income count toward the earnings limit. Investment income, pension payments, government benefits, and annuities don't count. You might want to consider exactly when in the calendar year you want to file based on your expected earnings pattern.

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KhalilStar

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Dont investment gains count too? I thought they looked at your tax return and counted everything???

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Connor Murphy

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@profile6 No, investment gains do NOT count toward the Social Security earnings limit. The earnings test only considers wages from employment and net earnings from self-employment. Things like stock dividends, capital gains, interest, pensions, annuities, and other government benefits are not counted. This is an important distinction many people misunderstand.

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This is so helpful! I have some investments too, and I was worried everything would count against me. So to summarize what I'm learning: 1) I can work full-time right up until I file, 2) Only need to reduce hours after filing to stay under the monthly limit, 3) Investment income doesn't count, and 4) The limit is higher the year I reach FRA. Is that all correct?

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@original poster - Yes, that's correct! And here's one more tip: Social Security does a special calculation in your first year of benefits called the "Grace Year" provision. If there's a month where you earn under a certain amount (1/12 of the yearly limit, so about $1,860/month in 2025) AND you don't perform "substantial services" in self-employment, you'll receive your full benefit for that month regardless of your annual earnings. This can be helpful if you have a month with little or no work after you file - you'll get the full benefit for that month even if you exceeded the annual limit with your earnings from earlier months after filing.

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Wait is this real?? I never heard of this grace year thing and I've been on benefits for 2 years!!

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Connor Murphy

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@profile8 Yes, it's called the "Monthly Earnings Test" or sometimes the "Grace Year Rule." It only applies in the first year you receive benefits. It means that regardless of your total annual earnings, in any month you earn below the monthly limit AND don't perform substantial self-employment services, you'll receive your benefit for that month. This is particularly useful for people who have high earnings early in the year but then retire or substantially reduce their work mid-year. You can find this in the SSA's Program Operations Manual System (POMS) section RS 02501.080.

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Thank you all so much for this information! This is exactly what I needed to know to plan properly. I think my approach will be to work full-time until I file, then immediately reduce to part-time to stay under the monthly limit. And I'll make sure to use that Claimyr service to connect with SSA directly to confirm all these details for my specific situation before I make any changes. You've all been incredibly helpful!

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