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I'm glad I found this thread! My husband and I are facing a similar decision and all of this information is incredibly helpful. One additional resource I wanted to mention is the SSA's online benefit calculators - they have a "Retirement Estimator" tool that can help you see projected benefits at different claiming ages, including the delayed retirement credits. What really surprised me from reading everyone's experiences is how common calculation errors seem to be at SSA. That's definitely making me think we should keep very detailed records of our own calculations and maybe even consult with a fee-only financial advisor who specializes in Social Security optimization before making the final decision. The Medicare timing point is also crucial - we learned the hard way that just because you delay Social Security doesn't mean you can ignore Medicare deadlines. My sister got hit with late enrollment penalties because she thought everything was connected. Thanks to everyone for sharing their real-world experiences along with the technical details. This is exactly the kind of practical advice you can't get from the official SSA publications!

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This is such a great point about keeping detailed records! I'm definitely going to start documenting everything now before we make our decision. The SSA Retirement Estimator tool sounds really useful - I'll check that out this week. It's honestly a bit alarming how many people have mentioned calculation errors. Makes me wonder if we should also get a second opinion from someone who really understands the system inside and out. A fee-only advisor specializing in Social Security sounds like a smart investment given how much money we're talking about over the long term. And wow about your sister's Medicare penalties - that's exactly the kind of costly mistake we want to avoid. It really does seem like all these programs have their own rules and timelines that don't necessarily align with each other. Thanks for mentioning the online calculators. Between that tool and all the advice everyone has shared here, I feel like we're finally getting a complete picture of what we need to consider. This community has been incredibly helpful!

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I've been lurking here for a while as my wife and I navigate similar decisions, and this thread has been incredibly educational! One thing I wanted to add that I learned from our financial advisor is about the "file and suspend" strategy that used to exist - it's no longer available as of 2016, but some older online articles still mention it, which can be confusing. Also, for those worried about SSA calculation errors, I found it helpful to create a simple spreadsheet tracking my wife's earnings history (you can get this from your annual Social Security statement at ssa.gov/myaccount). This way, when we do file, we'll have our own record to compare against their calculations. One more tip: if you're married, don't forget to consider spousal benefits in your strategy. Even though you're focusing on maximizing your wife's benefit since yours will be smaller, there might be timing strategies around spousal benefits that could help optimize your combined Social Security income. The rules are complex, but it's worth understanding all your options before making the final decision. Thanks again to everyone who shared their experiences - especially the warnings about double-checking calculations and the Medicare timing reminders!

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Thanks for mentioning the file and suspend strategy being discontinued - I actually came across some of those outdated articles during my research and was confused about why it wasn't mentioned on the current SSA website! The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I'm definitely going to pull our Social Security statements and set up tracking sheets for both of us. You're absolutely right about spousal benefits too. Even though my wife's benefit will be higher, I need to understand how the timing of my claim might affect her options, and vice versa. The whole system seems designed to be as complicated as possible! I'm starting to think that consultation with a Social Security specialist might be worth the cost just to make sure we're not missing any strategies or making any costly timing mistakes. It's really reassuring to know there are others going through the same decision-making process. This community has provided more practical insights than hours of reading SSA publications. Thanks for sharing your approach!

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UPDATE: I ended up keeping my original November 18th appointment, but I did verify the call was actually from SSA by calling their main number. Apparently they're trying to process survivor benefits faster and had a cancellation. Thanks everyone for the quick advice - it really helped me figure out what to do while at work without all my documents!

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Smart move! Always better to be prepared with all your documents. And congrats on actually getting through on their phone line - that's a miracle in itself lol

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Glad you were able to verify it was legitimate! This is such a good reminder for everyone - when in doubt, always call the official SSA number directly rather than trusting incoming calls. Even if they sound official, scammers are getting really sophisticated. You made the right choice keeping your original appointment so you can be fully prepared. Having all your documents ready will make the process much smoother. Sorry for your loss, and I hope the survivor benefits process goes smoothly for you in November.

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Absolutely agree with this advice! As someone new to dealing with Social Security, this whole thread has been really eye-opening about how common these scam calls are. It's reassuring to see that legitimate calls do happen sometimes, but the key takeaway seems to be always verify through the official number first. @7767eef2542e I'm sorry for your loss and glad you were able to sort this out without any issues. This community seems really helpful for navigating these confusing government processes!

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I'm a Social Security caseworker and can confirm what everyone here is saying is absolutely correct. When you transition from SSDI to retirement benefits at your Full Retirement Age, your monthly payment amount will NOT change. Your $2,100 will continue exactly as is. The confusion often comes from people mixing up two completely different scenarios: 1) Taking early retirement benefits before FRA (which ARE reduced), and 2) Converting from SSDI to retirement at FRA (which maintains the same payment amount). Since SSDI is already calculated at your full benefit rate regardless of age, there's no reduction when it converts to retirement benefits. The transition happens automatically - you don't need to apply or do anything. You'll receive a notice from SSA explaining the conversion, and your benefit will simply be reclassified from "disability" to "retirement" on your statements. The main changes are that medical reviews stop and work restrictions are lifted, but your payment stays identical.

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Thank you so much for the official confirmation! As someone who works with Social Security cases, your response gives me complete peace of mind. It's incredibly helpful to have a caseworker explain the difference between early retirement reduction and SSDI-to-retirement conversion so clearly. I feel so much better knowing that my $2,100 monthly payment will continue unchanged and that the process is truly automatic. I really appreciate you taking the time to provide that professional perspective - it means a lot to have official validation of what everyone else has been sharing from their personal experiences!

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This thread has been incredibly educational! I'm 59 and have been on SSDI for about 4 years after a workplace injury, and I had the exact same worry about my benefits being reduced when I reach FRA. The responses here, especially from Cedric who works as a Social Security caseworker, have completely put my mind at ease. It's so helpful to understand that the reduction only applies to people who choose early retirement, not those of us transitioning from SSDI. I'm definitely going to create a My Social Security account online like Isabella suggested to track my benefits, and I'll probably call SSA using that Claimyr service Mia mentioned since getting through on the phone seems to be such a challenge. Thank you Olivia for asking this question - you've helped so many of us who had this same concern!

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I'm so glad this discussion has been helpful for you too, Ella! It's really reassuring to see how many of us were worried about the same thing. I was honestly kept awake at night thinking about potentially losing income at retirement age, but this community has been amazing in sharing their experiences and knowledge. Having Cedric's professional confirmation as a Social Security caseworker was the icing on the cake - it's so valuable to get that official perspective alongside all the personal experiences. I'm definitely planning to call SSA myself now for that extra peace of mind, and the Claimyr service Mia mentioned sounds like it could be really helpful for getting through. Thanks for adding your voice to this conversation - it's comforting to know we're all in this together and looking out for each other!

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This is such a common issue that trips up so many of us! I went through the exact same panic last year when my deposit was way different from my COLA letter. What helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track all the deductions: COLA amount minus Part B premium minus any IRMAA surcharge minus Medicare Advantage/Part D premium minus tax withholding (if any) = actual deposit amount. Now I do this calculation every December so I know what to expect in January. It's frustrating that we have to be our own accountants, but at least once you understand the system it makes sense. The key thing to remember is that your COLA letter is just showing the gross benefit increase - it doesn't account for any of the deductions that come out before your money hits the bank.

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That's a brilliant idea about the spreadsheet! I'm definitely going to do that for next year. You're so right that we shouldn't have to be our own accountants, but I guess that's just how it is with government benefits. I'm just relieved to finally understand what happened and know it wasn't an error. Thanks for sharing your system - it would have saved me a lot of stress if I had thought to do the math ahead of time!

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I work at a local SSA field office and see this confusion literally every day in January! What most people don't realize is that the COLA notice you receive in December is generated by one system that only knows about your Social Security benefit amount, while Medicare premiums are handled by a completely different system. When your actual payment gets processed, that's when all the deductions finally get applied together. It's definitely confusing and I wish the notices were clearer. If you want to avoid this surprise next year, you can request a COLA notice that shows estimated net amounts, but you have to specifically ask for it. Most people just get the standard gross amount notice. The good news is your online account should update with the detailed breakdown by the end of this month showing exactly what was deducted and why.

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Thank you so much for explaining this from the inside! It's really helpful to understand that these are actually separate systems that don't talk to each other well. I had no idea you could request a COLA notice showing estimated net amounts - that would be incredibly useful! Is there a specific form or do I just call and ask for it? And thanks for the timeline on when the online account updates - I'll stop checking it obsessively now and wait until the end of the month for the detailed breakdown.

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As someone who recently went through this exact same situation, I can confirm what others have said - it's definitely when you EARNED the money, not when you received it. I was 62 when I started benefits last year and had the same payroll timing issue. What really helped me was creating a simple calendar marking when I worked vs when I got paid, and keeping all my pay stubs filed by the work period dates shown on the stub (not the deposit date). My employer's payroll also runs a month behind, so March work gets paid in early April. The key thing that gave me peace of mind was getting this confirmed directly with SSA. I used their online messaging system through my Social Security account - took about a week to get a response, but they confirmed it in writing which I saved for my records. One small tip: if you're cutting it close to the monthly earnings limit, consider asking your employer if they can provide a letter stating your exact work dates for each pay period. I never needed it, but having that documentation ready made me feel more prepared. You're being smart to plan this out in advance rather than trying to figure it out after the fact!

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Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really reassuring to hear from someone who's actually been through this! The calendar idea is brilliant, I'm going to start doing that right away. I hadn't thought about using the online messaging system through my SSA account - that sounds like a much better option than trying to call and wait on hold for hours. Getting written confirmation would definitely give me peace of mind too. Your tip about asking my employer for a letter with exact work dates is smart - I work for a small company so they'd probably be willing to do that if I needed it. This whole thread has been so helpful for planning my transition!

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I'm so glad you asked this question! As someone who just started collecting Social Security at 63 while still working part-time, I went through this exact same confusion about 6 months ago. The timing of when earnings are counted versus when you get paid is definitely one of those things that can keep you up at night worrying about it. Everyone here has given you the correct answer - it's absolutely when you PERFORM the work that counts, not when the paycheck hits your account. I learned this the hard way by initially tracking everything by payment dates and then having to redo all my calculations when I realized my mistake. Since you mentioned your employer uses 1st-30th/31st pay periods, you're actually in a good spot because those dates on your pay stub will clearly show which month's work each payment covers. I'd suggest starting a simple tracking system now - even just a basic Excel sheet or even handwritten notes showing work dates vs pay dates for each check. One thing I wish I'd known earlier: SSA can be pretty reasonable if you accidentally go over the limit in a month and can document exactly when the work was performed. They're much more understanding when you have good records showing you were trying to comply with the rules. You're being really smart to think through all these details before your retirement date. Best of luck with your transition!

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