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Great to hear you're making progress! The Illinois Community Care Program is definitely worth pursuing - they often have waitlists but can provide valuable support. When you call SSA through Claimyr, I'd suggest having a list of specific questions written down beforehand, including your exact benefit amounts and dates. That way you can get precise calculations rather than general guidance. Also ask them to walk through the spousal benefit math step-by-step so you understand exactly what to expect when you reach FRA. Looking forward to your update - these complex benefit interactions affect so many families and real-world examples are incredibly helpful for others navigating the same challenges.

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As someone new to navigating SS benefits, I'm finding this thread incredibly helpful! My situation is somewhat similar - I'm caring for my disabled adult son while dealing with my own health issues. A few things I've learned that might help: 1) For Illinois specifically, definitely look into the Division of Developmental Disabilities (DDD) services through the Department of Human Services. They have a Family Support Program that can provide some financial assistance for families caring for adults with disabilities at home. 2) Also check if your daughter qualifies for the Support Waiver or the Children's Residential Services waiver programs - these can sometimes provide respite care or other supportive services that could ease your financial burden. 3) One thing that caught my attention - you mentioned your daughter receives both SSDI and SSI. Make sure SSA is aware of all her living arrangements and expenses. Sometimes there are work incentives or other programs that can help maximize her benefits without affecting eligibility. The system is definitely overwhelming, but this community has been a lifesaver for understanding all these complex rules. Thank you to everyone sharing their experiences - it really helps those of us just starting to figure this all out!

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Welcome to the community, Angel! Your additional Illinois-specific resources are really valuable. I hadn't heard of the Family Support Program through DDD - that sounds like exactly the type of help families like ours need. The point about work incentives is interesting too. Even though my daughter isn't currently working due to her disabilities, I wonder if there are programs that could help if her condition improves enough for part-time work in the future. It's so helpful to connect with other families going through similar challenges. The learning curve on all these programs and benefits is steep, but having real experiences shared here makes such a difference. Thank you for taking the time to share what you've learned!

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I went through this exact same decision process two years ago and wanted to share what helped me most. After getting conflicting advice from multiple sources, I finally scheduled an appointment at my local SSA office (yes, there was a wait, but it was worth it). The key insight I got was this: they showed me my actual benefit statement with the exact dollar amounts for different claiming ages. Seeing "$1,234 at age 62" versus "$1,763 at age 67" made it crystal clear what I'd be giving up permanently by claiming early. For the spousal benefit question specifically, they explained that if you claim YOUR benefit early, any future spousal benefit gets the SAME reduction percentage applied. So if claiming at 62 reduces your benefit by 30%, your spousal benefit would also be reduced by about 30-35% from the full amount. One thing that really helped: I asked them to print out a worksheet showing my breakeven age for different scenarios. It turned out that if I lived past 79, waiting until FRA would give me more total lifetime benefits. Since I'm healthy and have good genes, waiting made sense for me. My advice: book an SSA appointment, bring a list of specific questions, and ask them to show you the actual dollar calculations for your situation. The generic advice online can only go so far - your specific earnings history makes all the difference in what strategy works best for you.

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This is such practical advice - thank you for sharing your real experience! I love that you got them to actually print out a worksheet with your specific numbers and breakeven analysis. That's exactly what I need to see to make this decision with confidence. I'm definitely going to book an SSA appointment now. Did you have to wait long to get an appointment, and do you remember what documents you needed to bring? I want to make sure I'm fully prepared so I can get the most out of the meeting like you did.

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For the appointment, I waited about 3-4 weeks to get in, but it was definitely worth the wait. I brought my Social Security statement (the annual one they mail out), my husband's statement, a list of questions I'd written out beforehand, and a simple calculator. The most important thing was having my questions written down - things like "What exactly would my spousal benefit be if I file at 62 versus waiting?" and "Can you show me the breakeven analysis?" The agent was actually really helpful once I had specific questions rather than just asking "what should I do?" Generally. Also, call first thing in the morning when they open - I found I got through faster that way for scheduling.

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I'm a newcomer here but dealing with a very similar situation! Just turned 61 and already stressing about this decision. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - especially seeing the actual numbers people have shared. One thing I'm wondering about that I haven't seen addressed: what happens if your health situation changes after you've made your decision? Like if you wait until FRA but then develop health issues that affect your life expectancy? Is there any way to adjust your strategy, or are you locked in once you start receiving benefits? Also, for those who mentioned using fee-only financial planners who specialize in Social Security - does anyone have recommendations for how to find these specialists? It seems like regular financial advisors don't always have the deep expertise needed for these complex timing decisions. The SSA appointment approach sounds like the way to go. I'm definitely going to call them first thing Monday morning to schedule. Thanks everyone for sharing your real experiences - it's so much more helpful than the generic advice you find everywhere else!

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This is exactly the kind of systemic issue that makes dealing with SSA so exhausting for people who are already struggling with disabilities. I'm a social worker and see this concurrent benefits confusion constantly - it's like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing at SSA. What really gets me is how this puts the burden on vulnerable people to become experts in federal benefits law just to get what they're legally entitled to. Your brother shouldn't have to fight this hard for money that's rightfully his. A few practical suggestions from my experience helping clients through similar situations: - Document everything in writing (which it sounds like you're already doing) - If you hit roadblocks with reconsideration, consider contacting your state's Protection and Advocacy agency - they specialize in disability rights and often have direct lines to SSA supervisors - Some legal aid offices have specific SSA benefits units that handle these exact types of administrative errors The good news is that once you get the right person who understands concurrent benefits, this should be resolved quickly. But it's absolutely unacceptable that people have to jump through these hoops in the first place. Hang in there - you're fighting the good fight for your brother.

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Thank you so much for the perspective from someone working directly with clients facing these issues, Jamal. It's both validating and heartbreaking to hear that this is such a common problem. You're absolutely right that people shouldn't have to become benefits law experts just to get what they're entitled to. I really appreciate the suggestion about the state's Protection and Advocacy agency - I hadn't heard of that resource before. Having direct lines to SSA supervisors sounds incredibly valuable, especially when you're dealing with representatives who don't seem to understand the rules around concurrent benefits. The legal aid suggestion is great too. I've been focused mainly on working directly with SSA, but having professional advocates who specialize in these administrative errors could save us a lot of time and frustration. It's encouraging to hear from your experience that once we get the right person, this should resolve quickly. Sometimes when you're in the middle of these battles, it feels like it's going to drag on forever. Thanks for the reminder to hang in there - we're definitely not giving up on getting my brother what he's owed.

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I'm so sorry your brother is dealing with this frustrating situation! As someone who recently went through a similar concurrent benefits approval process, I can tell you that what the SSA told him is completely wrong. You absolutely CAN and SHOULD receive backpay from both programs when you're approved for concurrent SSI and Social Security disability. The fact that SSI already did their calculation correctly (reducing their payment to account for his Social Security benefit) proves that both programs recognize the legitimacy of both benefits. Social Security has no legal basis to deny backpay simply because he's receiving SSI. This sounds like a classic case of an undertrained representative who doesn't understand how Title II and Title XVI benefits work together. I'd suggest asking to speak with a supervisor immediately, and definitely get everything in writing. Don't let them brush you off with vague explanations - demand specific policy citations for why they think SSI receipt eliminates Social Security backpay eligibility. Your instincts are absolutely right that something is wrong here. Keep pushing - your brother deserves every penny of that backpay!

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Thank you for sharing your experience with concurrent benefits, Vera! It's so helpful to hear from someone who recently went through this process successfully. Your point about demanding specific policy citations is excellent - I think that's exactly what we need to do when they give us these vague explanations. I'm curious about your timeline - how long did it take from when you first questioned the backpay issue to when it was actually resolved? And did you end up having to go through the formal reconsideration process, or were you able to get it fixed at the local office level? Also, when you asked for a supervisor, were you able to get one on the phone relatively easily, or did you have to be persistent about that request? I want to be prepared for whatever pushback we might encounter when we start demanding answers tomorrow. Your encouragement means a lot - it's reassuring to know that others have successfully fought this exact battle and won!

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to add my heartfelt thanks for this incredibly detailed and reassuring discussion! I'm 59 and planning to start Social Security at 62 while my wife continues her career as a nurse practitioner. I've been absolutely terrified that her substantial income would somehow reduce my Social Security benefits, and I was even considering delaying my retirement until she retires too. This thread has been a godsend - especially hearing from Freya who actually works at SSA and all the real-world experiences shared here. The clear explanation that the earnings test applies ONLY to the individual beneficiary's earnings is exactly what I needed to understand. I had completely confused the earnings test with Social Security taxation rules, which explains why I was so worried about our joint tax filing status. The practical advice about keeping detailed records, the option for voluntary withholding, and understanding how any withheld benefits get credited back at full retirement age has been invaluable. It's wonderful to find such a knowledgeable and supportive community where people genuinely care about helping others navigate these complex retirement decisions. Thank you all for sharing your expertise and experiences - you've given me the confidence to move forward with my retirement plans!

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Welcome to the community, AstroAce! Your story really resonates with me as someone who just joined this discussion myself. It's incredible how this one thread has managed to address every single concern I had about the earnings test and spousal income. I was in almost the exact same boat - terrified that my spouse's continued work would somehow interfere with my Social Security benefits and considering all sorts of unnecessary workarounds. The clarity provided here, especially from Freya's professional perspective and all the real-world experiences shared, has been absolutely life-changing for my retirement planning. It's so reassuring to know that the earnings test truly is individual-only, and that our spouses can continue their careers without any impact on our benefits. This community is such a treasure trove of practical, accurate information. Here's to both of us moving forward with confidence in our retirement decisions!

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As a newcomer to this community, I just want to express my sincere gratitude for this incredibly thorough and enlightening discussion! I'm 61 and have been wrestling with this exact same concern as I prepare to retire at 62 next year. My spouse works in healthcare and earns a good salary, and I've been genuinely worried that her income would somehow count against my $23,400 earnings limit. Reading through all these responses has been such a relief - especially getting confirmation from Freya who actually works at SSA that the earnings test applies ONLY to the individual beneficiary's earnings. I had definitely been confusing the earnings test with the Social Security taxation rules, which explains why I was so concerned about our joint tax filing status. The real-world experiences shared here are invaluable, and I particularly appreciate the practical tips about keeping detailed earnings records and the explanation of how any withheld benefits get credited back at full retirement age. It's also helpful to know about the option for voluntary withholding to avoid potential overpayments. This community is clearly full of knowledgeable and caring people who genuinely want to help others navigate these complex retirement decisions. Thank you all for sharing your expertise and experiences - you've given me the confidence to move forward with my retirement plans without worrying about my spouse's continued employment!

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I'm new to this community but wanted to share my experience since it's so relevant to your situation! My husband and I literally went through this exact same debate last year when we were both turning 65. He was absolutely convinced that if I claimed spousal benefits, his Social Security check would somehow be smaller each month. What finally convinced him was when I made him call the SSA with me on speaker phone. The representative was incredibly patient and explained it using a really simple analogy: think of Social Security like a big government vault with different compartments. Your husband's retirement benefit comes from one compartment that's labeled with his name and social security number - that money is his based on his work history, and nobody else can touch it. Spousal benefits come from a completely separate compartment that's specifically set aside by Congress to help support spouses with lower earnings records. The rep also mentioned that spousal benefits were actually added to Social Security in 1939 specifically because lawmakers realized that many wives had little to no work history outside the home, and they didn't want those women to be left with nothing in retirement. The whole point was to strengthen families financially, not to penalize anyone. Reading through all these responses, it's clear your husband is definitely not alone in this misconception! Show him this thread - sometimes hearing from multiple real people who've actually been through this exact situation is more convincing than government pamphlets. You're absolutely right, and once he understands how it really works, you'll both be able to move forward with confidence in your retirement planning!

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I'm new to this community but had to chime in because your situation sounds EXACTLY like what my parents went through a few years ago! My dad was absolutely convinced that if my mom took spousal benefits, his Social Security would be reduced. They actually got into several heated arguments about it before finally getting it sorted out. What really helped my dad understand was when my mom explained it like this: "Honey, if the government designed spousal benefits to hurt the higher earner, wouldn't that be punishing people for being married? Why would they create a system that discourages marriage when the whole point is to help families?" That question really made something click for him. He realized that spousal benefits exist specifically to support couples where one person (often women who took time off to raise kids) has a lower earnings record, without penalizing the person who worked more years or earned higher wages. Reading through all these responses, it's incredible how common this misconception is among husbands! Your husband is definitely not alone. The good news is that once he understands how it actually works, he'll probably feel silly for being so stubborn about it (my dad certainly did). Show him this entire thread - sometimes hearing from lots of real people who've been through the exact same situation is way more convincing than trying to decode government publications. You're absolutely right, and I'm sure once he sees all these stories, he'll come around!

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