How does new WEP legislation affect Social Security with mixed private/public teaching experience?
I'm trying to make sense of the recent WEP reform for my retirement planning. My situation is somewhat unique - I taught at a religious school for 7 years (paid into Social Security), then worked in corporate for 28 years (also SS), and finally spent 6 years teaching in public schools (paying into state pension). I now receive both Social Security and a small teacher's pension (about $780/month from the state system). With the new WEP legislation changes, I'm confused about how my private school teaching years are treated since I paid into SS during that time. Are those 7 years counted differently than my corporate years under the new formula? Does anyone understand if the new proportional formula helps people with mixed careers like mine? Really appreciate any insights!
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Paolo Conti
the private schol years r treated same as ur corporate work becuz u paid into SS for both. its the public teaching that gets weird with WEP. the new formula is sppsed to be more fair for ppl who worked both SS and non-SS jobs. It looks at lifetime earnings instead of just using that old 30 year rule.
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Keisha Robinson
•Thanks for responding! So the 7 years at the private school should count the same as my corporate years since both had SS taxes taken out? That makes sense. Do you know if they'll recalculate automatically or do I need to contact SSA once the changes go into effect?
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Amina Sow
The WEP reform makes significant changes to how benefits are calculated for people with mixed earnings history like yours. Under the new proportional WEP formula, SSA will look at your lifetime earnings in both covered (SS) and non-covered employment, rather than applying the arbitrary reduction of the old formula. Your private school teaching (7 years) counts exactly the same as your corporate work (28 years) because both were "covered employment" where you paid Social Security taxes. The 6 years in public schools where you earned your state pension is the "non-covered" portion. The new formula will essentially calculate your benefit based on the proportion of your career spent in SS-covered work (35 years out of your 41-year career). Since approximately 85% of your career was in covered employment, the WEP reduction should be relatively small compared to the current formula. SSA will implement these changes automatically for current beneficiaries, but it might be worth monitoring your mySocialSecurity account for notifications once implementation begins in 2025.
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Keisha Robinson
•This is incredibly helpful - thank you! So if I understand correctly, they'll look at the proportion (35/41 years or 85% as you calculated) rather than the arbitrary formula they use now. That does sound more fair. I really appreciate the clear explanation about the private school years counting the same as corporate since both had SS taxes. I'll keep an eye on my account for changes next year.
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GalaxyGazer
Be CAREFUL about trusting what you hear online!! The WEP is COMPLICATED and even SSA agents get it wrong half the time! I had a similar situation with both covered and non-covered employment and got 3 DIFFERENT ANSWERS from 3 different SSA reps!!! The new law helps some people but HURTS others. You really need to talk to someone who specializes in this!!!!!
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Oliver Wagner
•Totally agree. My dad went through this last year and the first calculation they sent him was completely wrong. Took months to fix.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
The WEP reform in the new legislation replaced the arbitrary formula with a proportional calculation that's more equitable for people with mixed careers. For your specific situation: 1. Private school teaching (7 years): Fully counted as SS-covered employment 2. Corporate work (28 years): Fully counted as SS-covered employment 3. Public school teaching (6 years): Non-covered employment This gives you 35 years of SS-covered work out of 41 total working years. Under the new proportional WEP formula, your reduction will be significantly less than under the old arbitrary formula that could reduce your benefit by up to $534 per month in 2024. The implementation will be automatic, but given the complexity, I'd recommend scheduling a consultation with SSA to review your specific situation. Many people in similar situations find it nearly impossible to get through on the SSA phone lines, though.
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Javier Mendoza
•I was in this exact situation last month trying to understand my WEP reduction. After trying for days to reach someone at SSA, I ended up using Claimyr.com to get through to an agent right away. They have a service that gets you connected to a real SSA agent without the hold times - saved me hours of frustration. You can see how it works in their video: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent I spoke with was able to explain my specific WEP calculation and confirm how the new legislation would affect me. Totally worth it for peace of mind on something this important.
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Emma Thompson
my husband had the WEP penalty and it took almost $400 off his SS check every month! the new law might help but we're not holding our breath. the government always finds ways to take more from us retirees lol
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•The new proportional formula will help most people who had substantial careers in both covered and non-covered employment. If your husband had many years paying into Social Security in addition to his pension work, he should see some improvement when the changes take effect. The old formula was particularly unfair to people who worked 20+ years under Social Security but just didn't quite hit the 30-year mark for full exemption.
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Keisha Robinson
Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I feel like I understand much better now. The proportional formula makes a lot more sense than the old arbitrary reduction. Since I have 35 years of SS-covered employment between my private school and corporate jobs, it sounds like my WEP reduction should be fairly small compared to what it might have been under the old rules. I'm going to try to speak with someone at SSA to confirm the details for my specific case. Really appreciate all the insights!
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Amina Sow
•You're welcome! One more thing to keep in mind: when calculating your benefit, SSA uses your highest 35 years of earnings. Since you have exactly 35 years of covered employment, all those years will count in your calculation. If any of those years had low earnings, they'll still be included. Just something to be aware of when estimating your benefit.
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Oliver Wagner
Does anyone know when these changes actually start? I heard 2025 but not sure exactly when during the year?
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Paolo Conti
•suppsed to be January 2025 for the WEP changes but govt always takes longer than they say lol
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GalaxyGazer
I just remembered something IMPORTANT! If you have 30+ years of "substantial earnings" under Social Security, you might be COMPLETELY EXEMPT from WEP even under the current rules!!!! You should check if your 35 years of SS work all count as "substantial earnings" - the threshold changes each year. For 2023 it was around $28,050 I think?? If you have 30+ substantial years you might not even need to worry about WEP at all!!!!
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Keisha Robinson
•Oh that's a great point! I'll have to look at my earnings record and see if I have 30 years above that threshold. Some of my early teaching years at the private school probably had lower salaries, but my corporate years were all well above that amount. This gives me another avenue to check. Thank you!
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